SSPX Issue BRUTAL Response To Rome

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Feb 19, 2026.

  1. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    There's an interesting talk here on that subject.

     
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  2. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

  3. garabandal

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  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Bishop Goldade's sermon at the consecration of SSPX bishop reveals a schismatic heart. He grew up within SSPX circles & probably has never met Catholics like us on this forum, alive in Christ through prayer & the sacramental life of the Catholic Church. They use the term novus ordo catholics as an insult instead of thinking of us as brethern.

    I sense in this sermon a person brainwashed & divorced from reality.

    "Today we see such wreckage. If the Catholic Church in Her tradition brings forth life, the modernist church is a desert, it kills, it kills everything that it touches, it kills the supernatural life, it kills the sources of grace, it dries up everything because it has placed man in the place of God and therefore turned away from the sources of life. So, this is a reminder today to be faithful, to be faithful to the sacred entrustment which Our Lord has given to His Church and continues down through the Apostolic Tradition."

    Wow, almost cult like.
     
  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Catholic Unity and Papal Obedience

     
  6. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Because this acronym represents the organization's full name in Latin: Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Pii X.
     
  7. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    It's sad to know that. However, it's unlikely that something like Fiducia Supplicans could have emerged through a dialogue with the Orthodox
     
  8. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    THE PRAYERFUL.POSSE

     
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  9. miker

    miker Powers

    I think he is spot on
     
  10. miker

    miker Powers

    I think SSPX response and defense actually does more harm to themselves and only reinforces that their actions led to really their self excommunication. Sad.

    https://apnews.com/article/vatican-...ommunication-23160a01915058e7812cde8259110baa


    There response to me demonstrates that this isn't simply about preferring the Latin Mass or disagreeing with a prudential decision of a pope. Faithful Catholics can have respectful questions or concerns.

    The issue is about authority. If a bishop or priest can decide that he is justified in disobeying the Pope whenever he believes Rome has departed from Tradition, then the visible unity Christ established in His Church begins to break down. Every group could claim it is preserving the "true Church" while rejecting the judgment of the Church itself. And as earlier post with video from Robert Nugent showed, their us already splintering within SSPX. This iscehat happened in Protestantism.

    I continue to respect many people in the SSPX and believe they have sincere love for the faith. But Christ entrusted His Church to the apostles with Peter as its visible head, and that means obedience can sometimes require humility even when we struggle to understand a decision.

    For me, that's one of the hardest but most important lessons of being Catholic.

    I hope and pray for reconciliation.
     
  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Well, they have existed for decades with only their own hierarchy as the head. So yes, I would say almost cult like.
     
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  12. AED

    AED Powers

    Just listened to this. Very enlightening. Sounds like Cardinal Fernandez got out ahead of his skis.
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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes we must pray for reconciliation.
    What stands out to me is that both sides have acted in such a way that there are no heroes here.
     
  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    In fairness to the SSPX they do not all think or feel the same way, it isn't possible to put them all in the same box, the same as the rest of us. They have a wide range of views.

    I only ever got to know one SSPX priest and he is dead now and I and many other people consider him to have been a saint.

    The other SSPX I knew was a seminarian who later became a priest and he was a very,very holy man indeed.

    So there is no one size fits all.

    The late Archbishop Lefebvre too had a reputation for sanctity.

    I never heard anyone anywhere suggest for one second that Cardinal Fernandez might be a saint No one ever. I also have the very strong impression that very many of the Cardinals emplaced by Francis and Leo are homosexuals. I do not have that impression from the SSPX Bishops. Far from it. So that is a big, big, big point in their favour. I am so sick of homosexual Cardinals.
     
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2026 at 6:01 PM
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  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Gnosticism.
     
  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    What you are saying is absolutely true…and therein lies the danger.
     

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