Sunnyveil - Ma Esperanza didn’t name the countries. She only described them. I am assuming she meant them to be England and Israel.
I notice one ting about Papa Leo which is really, really spooky. He can say something and everybody has a totally different take on what he said. Some people can be enthusiastic about it and say how wonderful he is. Some people can be lukewarm but supportive. Some can be very concerned, others outright horrified. These are , I presume good Faithful Catholics looking at exactly the same thing about having violently different responses. It is uncanny.
"If you want to help people you'll tell them the truth. If you want to help yourself you'll tell them what they want to hear"- Thomas Sowell Malachi 3, "For I am the Lord, I do not change"
Apparently, he is trapped in a web of ambiguity and commitments to preserve the unity of the Church at all costs, perhaps sealing some kind of agreement made during the conclave. We may be about to witness at least a decade of a Church of compromise, like a glass containing a heterogeneous mixture that never dissolves.
Yes it is running the Church as if it were a political party or an NGO. No one who ever really believed the Churches Teachings could have said what Papa Leo just did. “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct. . . . Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them” (Rom. 1:26–28, 32).
I just recently looked this quote up, in my haste to see what God has in store for homosexuals, and what the support for them means for us all. It turns out there's A LOT more to this verse that seems to be skipped in the quote above. I'll post the whole thing, from the Douay Rheims Bible: 1:26 "For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. 1:27 And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. 1:28 And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; 1:29 Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, 1:30 Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 1:31 Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. 1:32 Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them. 2:1 WHEREFORE thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest. For wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself. For thou dost the same things which thou judgest. 2:2 For we know that the judgment of God is, according to truth, against them that do such things. 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them who do such things, and dost the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?" There's enough in there to include us all, I think. Homosexuality, plus all those other sins that cover everyone in the Church, are sins God lets us fall into as a punishment for idolizing things over God. Our materialistic, self-idolizing culture has brought this upon us, infecting everyone, from us to our pope.
Apparently it is one of the sins that cries out to God for vengeance. I can't help noticing that scriptures that mention passages like this are often skipped, twisted or missed out in homilies.
Sounds like St. Paul's "operation of error" mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2: 10 And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: 11 That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity. Could it be to the degree that one's soul does or does not "love the truth" determines the response to Prevost's statements and actions? Prevost is a liar and an antipope, just like his predecessor. Those who don't care will be cursed with the "operation of error."
You know I honestly don't know, I was thinking about this exact same thing this morning. In charity I always like to think the best of people, not the worst. However it does have to be said that a Catholic, 'Influencer', or a Cardinal, a Bishop or even a priest who does wrong discernment on these things is capable of doing immense damage. Actions have consequences. There is a passage in the Book of Revelation along the lines that God will intervene , 'Lest even the good be lost' . Also it has been said that these times would confuse even a Catherine of Sienna or a Thomas Aquinas. It was the same thing with Papa Frankie , he pretty well had to hit most of them on the head with a heretical base ball bat before their eyes opened. I suppose this is some kind of rerun in a bigger stadium with a more devious and evil set of players. For the time being I will think the best of these poor deluded people. I hope their eyes don't get opened too late. Of course there are some bad players. But there are always bad players. I do however suspect some Trads of having sold out for the Old Liturgy. But it is a puzzle. I can only give my best guess. There are some very, very strange things indeed happening at the moment.
Thank God for Cardinal Muller. In his recent interview, he showed there was no error operating in him. He's such a straight talker, and unlike so many of his colleagues, such an obviously manly man. So many prelates these days are such effeminate, simpering hand-wringers.
