JUDGING POPE LEO XIV

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by Glenn, May 9, 2025.

  1. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    The definition of synodal is not what I found in Pope Francis’ approach. Look it up on EWTN. Give this Pope a chance, he’s a missionary. The goal for a missionary is to gather the flock. Not to cause a schism.

    I haven’t posted anything here about what Prevost said when he was a cardinal, but I have indeed been following what he’s been doing since he became pope, as that indicates the path he intends to follow. In fact, I previously mentioned that he has made an extremely Christocentric start to his pontificate in his homilies. However, what I said on the very first day is that the mention of a synodal Church is concerning, as it recalls the disastrous path of fragmentation and modernity—something many Anglicans have been warning us about, having experienced it within their own Church. I also posted earlier about the coincidence of the election taking place on May 8th, the feast of St. Michael, who is closely associated with Leo XIV, as well as the possibility that the name "Leo" may be an indirect reference to the continuation of Francis’ legacy, especially since Prevost himself mentioned yesterday that he intends to carry on the previous pope’s legacy. All of this is difficult to interpret, as it seemingly points to conflicting directions.[/QUOTE]
    I haven’t posted anything here about what Prevost said when he was a cardinal, but I have indeed been following what he’s been doing since he became pope, as that indicates the path he intends to follow. In fact, I previously mentioned that he has made an extremely Christocentric start to his pontificate in his homilies. However, what I said on the very first day is that the mention of a synodal Church is concerning, as it recalls the disastrous path of fragmentation and modernity—something many Anglicans have been warning us about, having experienced it within their own Church. I also posted earlier about the coincidence of the election taking place on May 8th, the feast of St. Michael, who is closely associated with Leo XIV, as well as the possibility that the name "Leo" may be an indirect reference to the continuation of Francis’ legacy, especially since Prevost himself mentioned yesterday that he intends to carry on the previous pope’s legacy. All of this is difficult to interpret, as it seemingly points to conflicting directions.[/QUOTE]
     
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  2. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I’m going to give him a chance because he hasn’t said anything heterodox so far. However, I don’t think the practical application of synodality implemented by Francis — where almost everything can be discussed in endless meetings that nearly bankrupted the Holy See — is a good thing. I also find the statement about continuing the legacy of the previous pope rather questionable.
     
  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He was specially chosen by Papa Frankie and they were very close. You know someone by whom they hang out with.
     
  4. Catherine L

    Catherine L Archangels

    IMHO, I think the key word, is the synodal mentioned by him in his speech.
    All may look good or okay now, but I think it's when this 'synodal' begins is when it's time to be alert and watchful. I believe in the Garabandal apparition and even though, the synod begun during Bergolino time but I feel that THIS actual "upcoming extended" synod may be what one of the Garabandal prophecies may be finally pinpointing more to.
    Again, just my own humble opinion.
    Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, pray for us!
     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well as they say it will all come out in the wash . My own feeling is that events have speeded up. The people who are pulling the strings will be moving fast. Very,very fast. They have thought things through and will move to implement their agenda very quickly indeed.

    This is natural enough they are older men and want to actually see things in place before they die.
     
  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Pope Leo XIV's SUPRISINGLY Good First Homily

     
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  7. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    So. Jesus hung out with Judas. You’re being very judgmental.

    QUOTE="padraig, post: 473864, member: 2"]He was specially chosen by Papa Frankie and they were very close. You know someone by whom they hang out with.[/QUOTE]
     
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  8. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    There’s a difference between feeling and proof.


     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    True. I have no real desire or need to justify myself. Believe or not. Just as you wish.

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  10. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Fr. Alar voiced his concern about the synodal Church in his video on post #71 of this thread, but we have to wait and see where Pope Leo goes with this. Fr.Alar said, if you are uneasy with anything that you have heard about Pope Leo, then get down on your knees and pray for him. Pope Leo grew up at a time that many of us here also lived through, when young catholics experienced dramatic changes during the years following Vatican II. There was no way to move through that spiritual storm without being affected. Pope Leo's faith was formed during this era, and it will surely be reflected in his papacy. I have classmates who went completely off the rails with regards to faith in their adult lives. Some left the Church, others became extremely progressive catholics, and a small minority remained conservative. At the moment it would hardly be fair to judge Pope Leo. If his papacy leads to disappointment, then perhaps we got the pope that we deserved and we need to pray harder and make sacrifices. After the tumultuous papacy of Pope Francis it is perfectly normal to be concerned, but right now it would be prudent to take a step back, observe, and be cautiously optimistic.
     
  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you for posting about Fr Alar’s recommendation. That’s exactly what we all should be doing right now. We need to pray for this pope and prudently hope for the best. It’s our duty as Catholics. Stay in the Barque.
     
  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Cardinal Burke pretty much said the same thing. He’s advising prayers and I bet he has a few novenas coming up. I would like to be in that number who prayed for the Pope when I am judged.
     
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  13. Indy

    Indy Praying

    Those are my thoughts as well.
     
  14. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Yes, our family is praying a morning offering to Jesus daily, including "for the intentions of the Holy Father this month". Since 2020 or so, we added "for the holy intentions of the Holy Father this month". Can't go wrong with that!
     
  15. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Archangels

    Can you give us the secret if possible?

    I don’t plan on leaving this forum, ever. It’s my favorite place online and I’ve made great friends here.
     
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  16. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I just left Mass. I am so grateful to have some of the holiest, most orthodox, on fire with love for God priests I have ever known at my FSSP parish. Father brought me to tears during his sermon today, when he said that being a priest is like being in the arena at the Coliseum, fighting for the Church. In the time of the gladiators, the emperor and spectators would watch the fight, then give a thumbs up or a thumbs down, to judge the worthiness of the gladiator, whether he be allowed to live or be killed. Father said that as a priest, he's fighting for the Church in the coliseum, and the congregation and Catholics through the world are the spectators, looking down from our seats, judging with our thumbs up or our thumbs down. He said that's what the Catholic world is doing to the pope. He's barely been at the helm for a couple days, and we're already sticking out our thumbs, looking down. He encouraged us to get out of that mindset, to get down from our high seats and try looking UP to the Pope, rather than looking down.

    It really moved my heart, coming from this humble, prayerful, valiant defender of the Faith, my favorite priest I've ever known. He sets our hearts and minds on fire with love for Christ and our Faith, and he LOVES us and wants us to go to Heaven. I would follow him anywhere.

    How do we do this, sitting in our seats judging and judging with endless words, giving our thumbs up or thumbs down to these priests, bishops, popes, who have devoted their lives to God and to us? Their sins and flaws, their lapses in judgment, are paraded around by us, passed back and forth and on and on with our frowns and condemnation. I'm ashamed. My beloved priest's sermon broke my heart.

    I love Pope Leo XIV and see and hear God through him. God loves us so much and hears our prayers. He is mighty, and the devil can do NOTHING without His permission...which He only gives in order to bring good out of it. We can trust Him with all of our hearts, and we can live our lives without fear and constant critique. We can be joyful, see the good in others, overlook their flaws, and follow what we know is the Truth, with all the saints at our side. And we can look up to our prelates, roll up our sleeves, and fight for the Church right alongside them with our prayers, fasting, and encouragement.
     
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  17. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    So well said.
     
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  19. St. Catherine of Siena
    “Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: 'They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil!' But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him.”
     
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  20. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

    He will have to capture the hearts of men first. People need to truly see goodness coming from him. That takes time. I say in a year we will know. Praying for all of us.
     

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