Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    1. You're spot on. So many Christians are blinded by a false belief that Trump is a person of faith because he throws out occasional tweets like st Michael Prayer, or our lady of guadalupe image. I honestly don't know how catholics don't see thru this. This is what politicians do to appeal to their base. They guy hasn't stepped in a church in his life. Other than maybe for a funeral or political gain. The terribleness of the other side has clouded the judgement of Christians wanting a leader that will fight for them. But he really won't. At best he Will be indifferent, but throw out the occasional comment or tweet or image to keep his base believing. I'd love to be wrong, but it seems clear.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Sigh, I'd love to believe that El Trumpo was it. I'd so much to believe it.

    Sigh.

    Sign.

    Sign.

    Oh well....
     
  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes.

    On the one hand the need to believe in someone, for if El Trump is not the Savior who else is there?

    On the other hand to face the truth.

    I am not American.

    But honestly I have totally no faith in Trump whatsoever. He is an illusion. I'd really, really love to believe. But no.
    Why?

    My first understanding would be over abortion. Really he could care less.

    My second over moral depravity, over say homosexuality. He could care less.

    My third over religion. I don't sense that he has any.

    I could go on.
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    But I am glad he won the election. I won a lot of money.

    He is better than the alternative.

    But apart from that...a rich guy with a hobby..to be President..on the make.. living the dream..

    A fun guy... but really that's all there is. He is to me a total pagan. An amoral rich guy. I kinda like him because he is not boring. But that's all she wrote.

    No moral substance whatsoever.

    Just a fun guy.Living the dream.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I wish it were other wise. But that;s that.##

    A very,very rich guy with a hobby.

    To be President.

    The same with Elon Musk.
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Ditto
     
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  7. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    I'm just jumping in here to say I don't think it's a hobby for Trump. He has faced attempts on his life. He has faced many attempts to write him off. I think he is brave and he loves his country. He has many moral weaknesses but he hasn't been overcome. He needs prayer. I don't believe he is a cynic but he is certainly in need of conversion. Pray for all these leaders.
     
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  8. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    I saw this news today and thought of this blog and the Garabandal message, how before the events the pope will travel to Moscow. It is clear now that the confrontation between Russia and the West is escalating to another level and maybe that would prompt the trip to Moscow in an effort to prevent a nuclear war.


    From Al Jazaara


    Russia warns Ukraine’s ATACMS attacks mark ‘new phase’ of war

    Warning comes as President Vladimir Putin lowers threshold for using Russia nuclear arsenal in move decried as ‘irresponsible’ by the West.

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    Russia has said that Ukraine’s use of long-range ATACMS missiles against its territory marked a “new phase of the Western war” against Moscow, and has said it will react “accordingly”.

    Ukraine used the US-made missiles to target a military facility in Russia’s Bryansk border region overnight, Moscow said on Tuesday, just days after Washington gave the green light for Kyiv to use the long-range weapons against Russian targets.

    The reported use of the Army Tactical Missile System, known as ATACMS, came as Russian President Vladimir Putin formally lowered the threshold for using nuclear weapons, opening the door to a potential nuclear response by Moscow to even a conventional attack by any nation supported by a nuclear power.

    Russia’s Ministry of Defence said Ukraine had struck Russia’s Bryansk region with six missiles, and that air defence systems intercepted five and damaged one.

    “This is, of course, a signal that they want to escalate,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, speaking at a Group of 20 (G20) news conference in Brazil, said of the attack.

    “We will be taking this as a qualitatively new phase of the Western war against Russia. And we will react accordingly,” he added, accusing Washington of helping Kyiv operate the missiles.

    Russia has long asserted that the ATACMS is programmed by United States specialists and requires guidance from US satellites.

    Also on Tuesday, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said his country was working with all partners to win their support for longer-range strikes.

    When asked about the attack in the Russian Bryansk region, Zelenskyy said Kyiv now had US-ATACMS systems as well as its own long-range capabilities, and would use all of them.

    Ukraine’s military did not publicly specify what weapons it had used, but a Ukrainian official source and a US official, both speaking anonymously, told the Reuters news agency that it has used the ATACMS.

    New nuclear doctrine
    Lavrov also urged the West to read a decree signed by Putin that lowers the threshold for when Moscow can use nuclear weapons.

    “I hope that they will read this doctrine … in its entirety,” Lavrov said.

    Russia had been warning the West for months that if Washington allowed Ukraine to fire US, British and French missiles deep into Russia, Moscow would consider those NATO members to be directly involved in the war in Ukraine.

    Washington permitted Ukraine to use the longer-range weapons on targets inside Russia after declaring that thousands of North Korean soldiers were deployed in the Russian region of Kursk to fight an incursion by Kyiv’s forces.

    The updated Russian nuclear doctrine, establishing a framework for conditions under which Putin could order a strike from the world’s biggest nuclear arsenal, was approved by him on Tuesday, according to a published decree.

    While the doctrine envisions a possible nuclear response by Russia to such a conventional strike, it is formulated broadly to avoid a firm commitment to use nuclear weapons and keep Putin’s options open.

    The approval of the document demonstrates Putin’s readiness to tap his nuclear arsenal to force the West to back down as Moscow presses a slow-moving offensive in Ukraine as the war reaches its 1,000th day.

    Asked on Tuesday if a Ukrainian attack with longer-range US missiles could potentially trigger a nuclear response, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov answered affirmatively, saying the doctrine provides scope for such a response to a conventional strike that threatens the “sovereignty and territorial integrity” of Russia and its ally, Belarus.

    The previous doctrine, contained in a 2020 decree, said Russia may use nuclear weapons in case of a nuclear attack by an enemy or a conventional attack that threatened the existence of the state.

    State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said on Tuesday that the US was not surprised by Russia lowering its threshold for a nuclear strike and does not plan to adjust its own nuclear posture in response.

    “I’m unfortunately not surprised by the comments the Kremlin has made around the publication of this new, revised document,” Miller said, adding that since the war began, Russia has sought to “coerce and intimidate both Ukraine and other countries around the world through irresponsible nuclear rhetoric and behaviour”.

    He added that Washington has not seen any reason “to adjust our own nuclear posture, but we will continue to call on Russia to stop bellicose and irresponsible rhetoric”.

    Meanwhile, the European Union’s top diplomat Josep Borrell accused Russia of issuing “completely irresponsible” nuclear threats.

    “It is not the first time that Putin plays the nuclear gamble,” the outgoing EU foreign policy chief told reporters following defence ministers’ talks in Brussels on Tuesday, saying “any call for nuclear warfare is an irresponsibility”.

    British Prime Minister Keir Starmer also denounced the revised nuclear doctrine as the “latest example of irresponsibility” from “the depraved Russian government”, according to spokesperson Camilla Marshall.

    “Russia’s the one that continues to escalate this war, and the use of North Korean troops is just one example of that,” Marshall said. “[Putin] could remove his troops, roll back his tanks and end the onslaught and needless bloodshed in both Ukraine and Russia.”
     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Agree
     
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  10. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    First and foremost he loves himself. Addicted to being the nbr 1 guy in the news every day good or bad
     
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  11. padraig

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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Thank you maryrose. I 100 percent agree.
     
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  14. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    I did hear him say God spared him, for a reason.
     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Russia will not respond with conventional weapons. I suspect they'll do an IT attack.
     
  16. Mario

    Mario Powers

    With sinking ratings, this pair are doing what they would never have considered before, in order to right the CNN ship.

    I believe commentators on the right, on the other hand, are too exuberant in their giddiness and their unsubtle mockery. After all, Trump is not even in Office, yet.

    We should be praying and fasting, instead.

    Remaining on the edge of WWIII is too worrisome to spend time gloating, now.:censored:
     
  17. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    But that does not excuse or allow for archeological evidence.
     
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  18. CathyG

    CathyG Archangels

    I agree 100% Maryrose.
     
  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

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  20. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Does he not deserve credit for nominating pro-life judges onto the US Supreme Court?
     
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