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Coming of Antichrist just around the corner?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Jan 24, 2024.

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padraig Powers

padraig, Jan 24, 2024

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This is one of the reason why I don't believe in Father Blount, who says that the anti Christ is alive and in power at the moment.

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Remember, THE antichrist will be perfectly possessed. He will be erudite and a consummate public speaker. He won’t stumble for words or use prosaic language.

It’s how I know Bergoglio isn’t the Antichrist. The Antichrist will know better than to give himself away by talking about coprophagia and always promoting sodomites and won’t lose his temper, with temple veins bulging and swearing and cursing at his opponents.

He won’t need a teleprompter.

This is how I knew that evangelicals claiming Obama was the Antichrist were full of nonsense. Obama is a drug addled sodomite who is only a great public speaker when he reads off a teleprompter. The antichrist won’t need one.

BrianK, Jan 24, 2024

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Agnes McAllister Powers

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In the quote above, Desmond uses the correct methodology. That method is described in the 3rd paragraph. I will restate his method concisely:

'The New Testament and the Church's Tradition provide a list of events which must precede the Antichrist, and the end of the world and its time... the Antichrist could not come until [those events] have."

Again, that method just quoted is correct. But "the list of events" he speaks of are veiled in the figurative language of parable, metaphor, simile and allegory. Nowhere in the Bible will you see a direct, literal description of those end time events. There is talk of wars and earthquakes and pestilences, of horsemen and locusts and armies, of changes in the stars and sun and moon.

NONE of those should be taken literally as "signs of the end times." Why? Because, in the past periods, those things have happened many times. Those are metaphors, but most people interpret them literally. Why? Because most people are concerned about earthly things, not spiritual matters. Just like the Jews in Jesus's time were expecting a powerful Messiah to kick the Romans out of the Promised Land and implement a world wide earthly peace based on His rule.

Rather, the clearest sign we are to look for has to do with spiritual events, as CCC 675-767 explains. Here is the first part again:

675 Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.573 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth574 will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.575

We are to be looking for a "supreme religious deception." The primary deceiver is "the Antichrist." The phrase "mystery of iniquity" points us to 2 Thessalonians 2:7. And just a few lines before that, St. Paul said this:

Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, 4 Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God.

This Antichrist "sitteth in the temple of God." The Church Fathers were split on what "the temple of God" referred to. Here St. Thomas Aquinas gives the proper answer:

But in what temple? Was it not destroyed by the Romans? This is why some say that the Antichrist is from the tribe of Dan, whose tribe is not named among the other twelve in Revelation (Rev 7:5). Because of this, the Jews will accept him at first, and will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, and thus Daniel will be fulfilled: an abomination and an idol will be in the temple (Dan 9:27). But when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place, let him who reads understand(Matt 24:15).

But some say that neither Jerusalem nor the temple will ever be rebuilt, but that their desolation will last until the final consummation. And even some Jews believe this. So this text is explained to mean in the temple of God, i.e., in the Church, since many from the church will accept him. Or according to Augustine, he sits in the temple of God, i.e., he rules and governs as though he himself with his messengers were the temple of God, as Christ is the temple with his adherents.

So, according to St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, who are summarizing certain Church Fathers who preceded them, the Antichrist will be someone who "governs [the Roman Catholic Church] as though he himself and his messengers were the temple of God." Therefore, the Antichrist will be an Antipope who deceives Roman Catholics into following a teaching that contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will "go to perdition." This is the spiritual meaning of the end times. And it is confirmed by CCC 675-677.

So, the above is what Desmond does not seem to understand. Bergoglio is fulfilling the prophecies precisely. He is an unlawfully-elected papal claimant (see www.antipope.com). He is promoting heresies left and right. He is calling for "world peace" based on secular humanistic principles. That is the precise description of the Antichrist according to the Apostolic Tradition, the Doctors of the Church, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
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Agreed.

Agnes McAllister, Jan 24, 2024

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Jo M Powers

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Remember, THE antichrist will be perfectly possessed. He will be erudite and a consummate public speaker. He won’t stumble for words or use prosaic language.

It’s how I know Bergoglio isn’t the Antichrist. The Antichrist will know better than to give himself away by talking about coprophagia and always promoting sodomites and won’t lose his temper, with temple veins bulging and swearing and cursing at his opponents.

He won’t need a teleprompter.

This is how I knew that evangelicals claiming Obama was the Antichrist were full of nonsense. Obama is a drug addled sodomite who is only a great public speaker when he reads off a teleprompter. The antichrist won’t need one.
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Obama is capable of anything but he's not the Antichrist, he's a just a slick politician with very evil intentions. There was an incredibly big " cover up" this summer on Martha's Vineyard surrounding the death of Obama's chef who drowned under very suspicious circumstances in a shallow pond on Obama's estate.

Jo M, Jan 24, 2024

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Jason Fernando Powers

Why 'Messiah prophecy' haunts Netanyahu

Benjamin Netanyahu was told by a powerful Jewish religious figure that he would be Israel’s last leader and hand the sceptre to the Messiah. How does this so-called prophecy affect Netanyahu’s political calculations? And who is the mysterious religious figure, honoured by successive US presidents , simply known as The Rebbe?

Jason Fernando, Jan 24, 2024

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Cherox Principalities

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Thanks for posting. I'm a Facebook friend and missed this.

Cherox, Jan 25, 2024

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I edited what I posted above in my comment to Desmond this evening because…Facebook:

BrianK, Jan 25, 2024

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Booklady Powers

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Thank you Brian, Desmond makes a very good point in his last paragraph that due to the monetizing of Youtube and other similar venues, programs about the antichrist, and the end of the world are more than plentiful. Not just Catholic, but protestant, and even pagan sites are pushing apocalyptic events. Fear sells.

Booklady, Jan 25, 2024

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DeGaulle Powers

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Why 'Messiah prophecy' haunts Netanyahu

Benjamin Netanyahu was told by a powerful Jewish religious figure that he would be Israel’s last leader and hand the sceptre to the Messiah. How does this so-called prophecy affect Netanyahu’s political calculations? And who is the mysterious religious figure, honoured by successive US presidents , simply known as The Rebbe?
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If this is affecting Netanyahu's policies, he would be immune from restraint and capable of anything.

DeGaulle, Jan 25, 2024

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Jason Fernando Powers

Pope Francis is too old and sickly already to be called the AC, he fits more the profile "The False Prophet" in the book of Revelation...

The AC will need his own "John the Baptist" who prepared the way for our Lord Jesus Christ, just like Prince Jonathan who gave way for David...

"Like Judas, the last pope will betray Jesus to the enemy." - recently discovered line from prophecies of Our Lady of Akita by Fr. Yasuda.

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Jason Fernando, Jan 25, 2024

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Carmel333 Powers

He will present himself as an alien.

Carmel333, Jan 25, 2024

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Jason Fernando Powers

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He will present himself as an alien.
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Complete with props and costumes...

Jason Fernando, Jan 25, 2024

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Heidi Powers

What do you all make of Mark Mallett and Daniel O’Connor’s interpretation?

Heidi, Jan 25, 2024

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DeGaulle Powers

Jason Fernando said: ↑

Pope Francis is too old and sickly already to be called the AC, he fits more the profile "The False Prophet" in the book of Revelation...

The AC will need his own "John the Baptist" who prepared the way for our Lord Jesus Christ, just like Prince Jonathan who gave way for David...

"Like Judas, the last pope will betray Jesus to the enemy." - recently discovered line from prophecies of Our Lady of Akita by Fr. Yasuda.
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Horrific.

DeGaulle, Jan 25, 2024

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AED Powers

Heidi said: ↑

What do you all make of Mark Mallett and Daniel O’Connor’s interpretation?
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I haven't seen it. What do they say

AED, Jan 25, 2024

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AED Powers

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If this is affecting Netanyahu's policies, he would be immune from restraint and capable of anything.
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AED, Jan 25, 2024

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Luan Ribeiro Powers

There was also a prophecy from an influential Jewish rabbi that the messiah would only come after the death of Ariel Sharon, who turned 10 this year.

Luan Ribeiro, Jan 25, 2024

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padraig Powers

I find I am a lot more comfortable with Papa Frankie than I used to be.

Why?

Well he has come right out in the open now with his agenda and this makes him far,far less dangerous. It was when he was pretending to be something he was not that he was truly dangerous.

This is a really great blessing. I don't really worry of think about him so much as I used to. I have a great sympathy for him as he will be going to meet his Maker soon though. A very,very great pity. May God have mercy on his poor soul.

padraig, Jan 25, 2024

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padraig Powers

If we were to be concerned with a Pope being the anti Christ it might have been more in line with a future Pope, perhaps the next one. It is very possible we'll be landed with someone who will make Papa Frankie look like and angel.

padraig, Jan 25, 2024

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Agnes McAllister Powers

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If we were to be concerned with a Pope being the anti Christ it might have been more in line with a future Pope, perhaps the next one. It is very possible we'll be landed with someone who will make Papa Frankie look like and angel.
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Yes we must watch what we wish for.

Agnes McAllister, Jan 25, 2024

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