Pope Francis

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  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Good diagnosis! Right to the heart of the problem. The Church of NICE. In CS Lewis's novel That Hideous Strength the outfit that takes over is a consortium with the name the N.I.C.E. They are of course evil beyond belief. That novel is absolutely prophetic. They are destroyed quite satisfactorily by all sorts of wonderful "bloody shepherds crooks". I must reread it. It is fanciful but wonderfully real at the same time.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Fair play to Michael Voris in Church Militant TV for the phrase, 'The Church of Nice'. It is so apt.

    I notice that priests who abuse children may get punished, but Bishops and Cardinals who cover up for them very,very rarely get punished. So it is being nice, but often being nice with an agenda.
     
  3. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Cardinal Zuppi heads to Ukraine on behalf of pope in pursuit of 'just peace'
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    Cardinal Matteo Zuppi, Pope Francis' personal emissary tapped to lead the Vatican's peacemaking efforts between Ukraine and Russia, will be in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv from June 5-6.

    The Vatican made the announcement on the morning of June 5, stating that Zuppi's main goal is "to listen to the Ukrainian authorities on the possible ways to achieve a just peace and support humanity's gestures to ease tensions." At the time of the announcement, there was no publicly available schedule of Zuppi's plans while in Ukraine.

    Zuppi, who is the archbishop of Bologna and the president of the Italian bishops' conference, was appointed by Francis last month to lead a special "mission" to "initiate paths of peace" between the two warring countries.

    The Italian cardinal's closely watched trip comes less than a month after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with the pope at the Vatican on May 13. At the time, Zelenskyy thanked the pope for his humanitarian efforts, but also appealed to Francis to strongly denounce Russia's war crimes and to back a just peace that entails Russia abandoning all occupied Ukrainian territory.

    Since the start of the war, neither Francis nor any of his Vatican foreign aides have been able to speak directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin. While no definitive plans have been announced, it is widely expected that Zuppi will also attempt to travel to Moscow on a future occasion as a part of the Vatican's diplomatic efforts.

    Zuppi, 67, has long been involved with the Community of Sant'Egidio, a lay-led Catholic social service organization that has been involved in a number of successful high-level peace negotiations in recent decades. The organization has longstanding ties with the Russian Orthodox Church and its leader, Patriarch Kirill, which may help open doors for the Catholic cardinal in the overwhelmingly Orthodox country.

    While Zuppi has not commented extensively on his special peace mission, during a gathering of Italian bishops last month, he backed the pope's approach to trying to maintain open lines of communication with both countries.

    “We are grateful today for his prophecy, so rare today when talking about peace seems to avoid taking sides or fail to acknowledge responsibility,” he said of Francis.

    “The church and Christians believe in peace, we are all called to be peacemakers, even more so in the terrible storm of conflicts,” said Zuppi.

    https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/v...-heads-ukraine-behalf-pope-pursuit-just-peace
     
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  4. Luan Ribeiro

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  5. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    TV news reporting that Pope Francis has been admitted to the Gemelli hospital in Rome to undergo abdominal surgery on a hernia.
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He is certainly not a well man.
     
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  7. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I think he once said that he would resign if he had to have another operation.
     
  8. Adoremus

    Adoremus Powers

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    Replying to this thread because this jumped out at me and I don't like the look of it :eek:
     
  9. “Surgery on pope was successful, doctors say he can travel” (reuters)
     
  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I see he was to have had a huge Masonic Meeting in Rome this Saturday. The Freemasons in Italy, Spain and France have already spoken out in support of it. Prominent Masons from all over the world were supposed to have been in attendance.

    Pope Francis was supposed to have endorsed some key agreement on the, 'Brotherhood of Man' , a key thing with the Masons.

    The Freemasons were always Pope Francis's biggest fans. He was close to them in Argentina and word got round that he was one of their own. They raved about him with delight when he was elected.

     
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  11. AED

    AED Powers

    :cry:
     
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  12. https://www.catholic.com/qa/pope-francis-speaks-against-freemasonry
     
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  13. The position of the Church on Freemasonry could not be made clearer and the recent pontiffs have not felt the need to restate what their predecessors have repeatedly declared.

    The present Holy Father, however, may have had Masonry in mind in his 1955 May Day address when he warned, "Laws and institutions are of little worth if the ordinary man sees in his daily life that everything depends on influential connections which he, unlike others, does not possess; or if he suspects that behind the facade of what is called the State there lies concealed the manipulations of powerful organized groups." (EWTM.com)
     
  14. I feel your opening sentence was misleading: “I see he was to have had a huge Masonic Meeting in Rome this Saturday.” It was not his meeting. It was the mason’s.
     
  15. AED

    AED Powers

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  16. The book “Bergoglio’s List” presents eyewitness accounts of Pope Francis as a man of tremendous courage and moral certainty who was willing to lay down his life to save victims of a savage regime; true heroism in the face of unspeakable evil. He risked his own life and like PiusXII in his dealings with Nazi Germany, he had to show great prudence in dealing with the Argentinian Dictatorship.
     
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    I had heard of this.
     
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  18. The articles that are referenced where Pope Francis 'speaks out against' freemasonry are very weak quotes. One of them is the following: Pope Francis said, "This is the first question. Then, you spoke about the gay lobby. So much is written about the gay lobby. I still haven’t found anyone with an identity card in the Vatican with “gay” on it. They say there are some there. I believe that when you are dealing with such a person, you must distinguish between the fact of a person being gay and the fact of someone forming a lobby, because not all lobbies are good. This one is not good. If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him? The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this in a beautiful way, saying ... wait a moment, how does it say it ... it says: “no one should marginalize these people for this, they must be integrated into society”. The problem is not having this tendency, no, we must be brothers and sisters to one another, and there is this one and there is that one. The problem is in making a lobby of this tendency: a lobby of misers, a lobby of politicians, a lobby of masons, so many lobbies. For me, this is the greater problem. Thank you so much for asking this question. Many thanks."

    That is hardly speaking out against freemasonry, it is only speaking out against a lobby of masons.
     
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  19. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

  20. Your quote was about homosexuals and homosexuality not about masons and masonry. If you disagree with the content of your own quote you are of course entitled to your opinion. No more from me on this.
     

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