Pope Francis: 'Great Destruction and Desolation'

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-greater-destruction-desolation-mankind.html

    Pope warns he has seen 'omens of even greater destruction and desolation' for mankind

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    • The Pope has warned of 'omens of even greater destruction and desolation'
    • The pontiff said even more dire times for humanity are set to come in the future
    • He was speaking at a Mass commemorating the appearance of Mary in 1531

    The Pope has offered a harrowing vision of the future, saying he has seen signs of an even darker time ahead for humanity.

    At a Mass at the Vatican, the Pope, 85, said on Sunday that he has a dire vision for the world with 'omens of even greater destruction and desolation'.

    The Mass was commemorating the feast of Our Lady Guadalupe, which fell on Monday. It commemorates the appearance of the Virgin Mary to a young man, Saint Juan Diego, in 1531 in Mexico City. The day is a national holiday in Mexico.

    But despite the current difficult times for the world – including wars, particularly Russia's conflict in Ukraine, the rising cost of living, poverty, famine, and an international energy crisis – the Pope said he has a vision that things will get worse.

    The Pope has offered a harrowing vision of the future, saying he has seen signs of an even darker time ahead for humanity.

    At a Mass at the Vatican, the Pope, 85, said on Sunday that he has a dire vision for the world with 'omens of even greater destruction and desolation'.

    The Mass was commemorating the feast of Our Lady Guadalupe, which fell on Monday. It commemorates the appearance of the Virgin Mary to a young man, Saint Juan Diego, in 1531 in Mexico City. The day is a national holiday in Mexico.

    But despite the current difficult times for the world – including wars, particularly Russia's conflict in Ukraine, the rising cost of living, poverty, famine, and an international energy crisis – the Pope said he has a vision that things will get worse.

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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    This fills me with a Dark Sense of Foreboding.

    What has the Holy Father heard, or read or seen that maybe we all have not?
     
  3. Lois

    Lois Guest

    Well, his cronies are making some very dark statements ~ I'm really starting to wonder if the SJ's are akin to the "Orcs".

    Pope Francis allies claim Western Christianity 'no longer works' - LifeSite

    LifeSite

    Mon Dec 12, 2022 - 11:15 am EST

    VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — A cardinal of the Roman Curia has praised a new book by a fellow Jesuit that proposes “a new Christianity” that cannot be centered in Europe or Rome.

    Canadian Jesuit Cardinal Michael Czerny spoke at a December 2 book launch at the John Paul II Institute for Family and Marriage for Fr. Tomáš Halík’s The Afternoon of Christianity: The Courage to Change. In his comments, Czerny called for a decentralized Christianity.

    Citing the 2011 “Pew Forum Study on Christian Population,” a study of the demographics of Christians worldwide, Czerny quoted its conclusion that “Christianity is so far flung that no single continent or region can indisputably claim to be the center of global Christianity.” The cardinal agreed and stated that he thought people in Europe and Rome would find it difficult to fully accept.

    “Halík, I think, is trying to equip us to become at home throughout the world in our Christianity without having our roots, and bases, and points of reference, and instincts rooted here in Europe, rooted here in Rome,” Czerny said.

    Czerny contrasted Halík’s position with that of Catholic historian Christopher Dawson. Dawson wrote, “Every human culture must possess some spiritual dynamic, which provides the energy necessary for civilization. It is the religious impulse which supplies the cohesive force which unifies a society and a culture. A society which has lost its religion becomes sooner or later a society which has lost its culture.” Czerny argued that Dawson’s position was out of touch with reality.

    Likewise, Msgr. Armando Matteo, appointed by Pope Francis in 2021 as Adjunct Under-secretary for the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, said he agreed with Halík in the central thesis of his book, namely, that the age of Christianity of in the West is “over” and that we need a “new Christianity.”


    “I have already said that I agree with the central thesis of his text, which is this: It is time for Christianity to overcome itself,” Matteo said. “I refer only to Western Christianity with the widespread image it carries and the related pastoral mentality. It no longer works; insisting on it is simply counterproductive. The age of Christianity is really over.”

    “As Christians we have to do something; we have to give a new image to Christianity, a different image,” the priest argued, declaring the Church must employ “a new pastoral mentality.”

    The author was present at the gathering at the Lateran University. Claiming that the sexual abuse crises of the past several decades are evidence of the failure of an outdated, overly traditional Christianity, Fr. Tomáš Halík praised Pope Francis and the “synodal process” for seeing the crises as “not a failure of some individuals” but as “just a symptom” of “a sickness in the whole system.” Halík called for a reshaping of the whole system [sic] of Christianity in order to move forward.

    “There is something wrong with the whole system; we must change the whole system,” he declared.

    Comparing the sexual abuse crises in the Church with the wounds of Christ, the casting off of the old Christianity with the death of Christ, and a new Christianity with His resurrection, Halík said, “We shouldn’t seek the living Christ among the empty tombs of [the] past.”

    The future of the Church lies with “seekers” who, he said, combine some degree of faith in God with doubt and questions, which he thought was “not such a bad thing.” In contrast, Halík says simple belief was extreme and fanatical.

    “Faith without the difficult questions, without some honest doubt can just be fanaticism, fundamentalism, bigotry,” Halík argued. “But … doubts without this basic trust… could be just cynicism, pragmatism. They need each other.”

    RELATED: Cardinal at Vatican presser: Question on women deacons, married priests not resolved

    These calls for a new Christianity fail to acknowledge that sexual abuse crises that have plagued the Church for decades are a direct result of the acceptance of homosexuality within the ranks of the clergy and the rejection of the Church’s timeless teachings regarding sexual morality. These issues have stood front and center in the “Synodal Way” of the German bishops, and rejection of the Church’s teachings reached a new level when the Belgian bishops published a “rite of blessing” for same-sex couples. In the United States, the McCarrick scandal was predominantly a series of systematic homosexual rape, and support for LGBT ideology seems to have become a condition for elevation to the College of Cardinals.

    All the while, the fact that Traditional Latin Mass communities and parishes are flourishing is often maligned or ignored, or rather, seems to have prompted a desperate attempt to keep the “old Christianity” from rising from the dead.

    These calls to end the Christianity of the last two millennia also contradict the reflections of Cardinal Robert Sarah, who recently warned of an “implicit bias against Christianity” in Western secular culture. The cardinal called on Catholics to rediscover the sacraments as “the principal means of grace that Jesus established in his Church.” Sarah also encouraged a more sacred celebration of the Mass, in which silence is given due place, allowing souls “to draw closer to Jesus Christ, to return to his word, and to the simplicity of the faith in his self-revelation.”

    READ: Cdl. Sarah: ‘Religious liberty is under threat in the West’

    In contrast to the calls for a new Christianity voiced by Halík, Czerny, and Matteo, Sarah declared, “When Christians forget why they are Christian, the community must fall into decline. They forget the Gospel and lose sight of their purpose.”

    “We are all at war whether we recognize it or not,” Sarah warned, “It is good that all of us should become aware of that fact and make sure every day that we fight on the side of God.” 

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...tm_source=featured-news&utm_campaign=catholic
     
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  4. Logos

    Logos Guest

    This may not be the best place to position this, but nevertheless.........
    PLEASE READ ARCHBISHOP VIGANO'S LATEST THREAD ON TWITTER.
    It is gaining a lot of traction from all sorts of bases.
    God Bless and preserve him.
    That is: tweets 1-28 of Dec.11th.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It would be an understatement to call these people Heretics. They are beyond heresy. They would make Martin Luther blush and hang his head in shame.

    They are some new super breed of Space Alien heretics. They must even amaze Lucifer himself.

    The first thing any decent Pope should do (if we ever do get a decent Pope again) is to loose the Jesuits for good. Maybe invite them all to the Vatican and have the Swiss Guards execute them all.
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Its interesting though that Pope Francis made this kind of half Prophecy on the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe. Pope's get information from visionaries and mystics from all over the World. I wonder if he got one from somewhere like Medugorje?
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Wow!

    Big Prediction. The Three Days of Darkness in 2024?

     
  8. AED

    AED Powers

    God bless and protect Cardinal Sarah. Never before have we seen such a clear delineation of wheat and tares.
     
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    The CP gives an update on the war and mentions the pope’s recent comments.

    URGENT NEWS: No Fly Zone and WW3!! Pope Issues Warning! Putin in Bunker?!
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    73,496 views Dec 13, 2022
    The USA is essentially preparing to implement a no fly zone in Ukraine, that means one step closer to WW3. This is crazy... The pope was issued another warning, Putin is mysteriously absent, Belarusian troop movements have NATO on high alert.
     
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  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Maybe the Pope will go to Moscow soon?
     
  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    How interesting and extraordinary these times are!

    Even if I did not believe in God at all I would be riveted to the news!

    But for someone who believes in God and has a good active prayer life and is well read in Catholic Prophecy it is really ,really edge of the seat stuff. It must have been like this after the very First Christmas or the very first Pentecost.

    About two or three weeks ago in prayer I was visited by St John Henry Newman and several other former Churchmen/Saints/ Prelates crowded around him. They were happy as angels, all full of joy. It is so clear to be that the terrible, terrible events in the Church we are seeing with this totally awful Pontiff are about to come to a close.

    The Saints in Heaven, particularly the wonderful , good Saints who were Bishops and Cardinals in the Church like John Henry and Fulton Sheen are with us.

    The bad guys..like the Germans are about to get their very just deserts.

    So exciting and interesting...but very challenging.

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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am so happy and excited, wonderful ,wonderful events in Our Holy Mother the Church are at Hand. The Long Prophesied Great Pope stands in the Wings.

    Although we are now in a very Great Darkness a Great Light in the Church is about to Dawn.

    A very,very Great Pope is about to walk amongst us.

    The answer to all our prayers.
     
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  13. Any hint who he is padraig? :sneaky:
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He is very,very,very obscure. His name would mean nothing to you.

    He is a layperson (at the moment) from very , very humble origins from a very , very Catholic country in Europe, (not Italy). A Country drenched in the Blood of those who died for the Faith for centuries.

    I don't even think he knows about this himself at the moment. But once he takes the Seat of Peter he will be like a Roaring Lion.

    Un Secreto en el Corazon Mariano de Dios..

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    .y que no se hable


    God is so like this he chooses the least and most unexpected.

    Not many people know this but at Papal Conclaves to decide a Pope , the Cardinals can say that they cast their vote by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. In other words they can say God Himself has revealed to them that God wants a certain person to be made Pope.

    This is very,very very rare.

    Also it is very ,very very, rare that a lay person should be elected.

    But it can be done...and has been done.

    Come Holy Spirit.

     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    This ties in with Fr Ripperger's comments about the exorcism in which a very major major demon bewailwd that "He" is coming to take away the demon's power.
     
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  16. Ang

    Ang Archangels

    Thank you for giving me such hope and eagerness for the future. Times are going to get really tough really soon. Must focus on the beautiful light at the end of the tunnel!
     
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes! My thought as well.
     
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  18. Nice, thanks for sharing padraig!
     
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  19. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Here’s what I find intriguing about the transition to the era of peace. Maybe others find it intriguing too.

    Historically, the transition from one era or age to the next is a drawn out process, one age giving way to the next almost imperceptibly.

    You would expect this to happen again now, especially as we transition from a very materialistic age (actually worse than before the deluge as many prophecies claim) to the most enlightened era the world has ever known.

    However this is SIMPLY NOT what Our Lord stated.

    That’s why he used the image of the birth pangs.

    This clearly suggests that a new era will dawn almost overnight, almost miraculously.

    This is so amazing so counterintuitive.

    Am I missing something?

    When people are saying, “Peace and security,” then sudden disaster comes upon them, like labor pains upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers, are not in darkness, for that day to overtake you like a thief.

    –1 Thessalonians 5

    When a woman is in labor, she is in anguish because her hour has arrived; but when she has given birth to a child, she no longer remembers the pain because of her joy that a child has been born into the world.

    –John 16: 21
     
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  20. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Blizzard, I am pretty certain that you read Daniel O’ Connor’s blog. He just posted an update. https://dsdoconnor.com/
     
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