What happens if the pope is a heretic?

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by BrianK, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    Indeed. And anyone in need of a little "pick me up" from time to time might want to visit the page below. There are some really great quotes on there.

    https://www.benedictusxvi.com/benedict-quote-of-the-day
     
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  2. Mary's child

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    You know Padraig, when my mother passed couple of weeks ago this was the first thing that jumped into my mind. So thankful that my parents are not on this earth to see this devastation. :cry:
     
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  3. padraig

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    It hits at the very, very heart of Catholicism.

    The Papacy.

    The very, very Heart.
     
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  4. Luan Ribeiro

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    one thing I have been wondering is whether even children in the catechization phase are in danger of diabolical disorientation, because Francis habitually contradicts what is taught to them in catechism classes; it makes me wonder if there will still be children on earth during the reign of the antichrist or if God would spare them somehow.
     
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  5. Lois

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    PNF, thank you for the link. Just reading thru a page or two brought some peace ~
     
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  6. padraig

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    I heard the other day how the Chinese Communist Party are rewriting Scripture. For instance in the story of the woman whom they are trying to stone the poor woman to death for adultery ,after Jesus chases away the men who are trying to kill her, they have Jesus stoning the woman to death himself.

    I can see why the Communists did this, it reflects their own culture of Death.

    Similiarly the Vatican is currently rewriting the Church herself so that we have a new False Church in their own evil image. Pope Frankie is not alone letting them to do this. He is actually leading the Charge.

    We have to face facts, he is behind all this. He is their Fueher.
     
  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Me too. The Church was their rock as Padraig said. This would be shattering for them if they were still here.. It comforts me to know that they do know now from heaven's perspective and are praying for us.
     
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  8. padraig

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    This thought is so very comforting and brings great peace in bad times. They loved the Church on Earth and will continue to love it in heaven.
     
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  9. padraig

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    Poor, poor man.
    A Martyr.
     
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  10. padraig

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    Our Lady has promised that she will break Satan's time at the appropriate time. It is so very sad to say that we ain't seen nothing yet as far as wickedness goes.

    We may even wind up as bad or worse than the Anglicans.
     
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  11. Luan Ribeiro

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    I think that those who had their faith nurtured by the teachings of John Paul II and Benedict xvi in childhood have a common sense of what the true tradition of the Church represents (although many reject it or consider it something to be updated) but who is receiving the initial catechization now are already receiving a distorted notion of the Catholic faith, especially if are from the German church and this is very serious.
     
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  12. maryrose

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    I just watched the Patrick Coffin interview and it has totally nailed it for me. I was struck by how shocked John Henry was towards the end when all the cards are on the table and the appalling vista is before him. He struggles even though he has been calling it out since the beginning. His question on why Pope Benedict appears to speak glowingly of Francis on more than one occasion has also troubled me and no doubt many others. Patrick deals with that and now we have to face this. I think my response now is to pray like never before for all catholics and for our priests.
    This forum is a blessing in this time.
     
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  13. padraig

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    It is the worst Judgement on us for our sins possible.
    But may God's Holy Will be done forever and ever.

    But it is a huge comfort that everything will turn out for the best in the end...at least for those who love God. For those who do not love God it will not turn out well at all...unless they convert. May God have mercy on their poor souls.
     
  14. garabandal

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    Sister Lucia nailed it when she described this period as one of 'diabolical disorientation', as both the Church and the World are in chaos.

    We really need the enlightenment of the Aviso - the Warning will be the greatest turning point in history since Pentecost.

    May God give us the gift of perseverance.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    You are right Luan.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. Prayers. Rosaries prayed from the heart. Sister Lucia said that God has given in our days "great efficacy to the Rosary" and there is no problem--no matter how huge--that cannot be resolved by praying the Rosary.
     
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  17. garabandal

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    It is an hypothesis that Pope Benedict resigned deliberately in an invalid manner and that Pope Francis is an anti-Pope.

    But is an hypothesis that is building up a certain momemtum at the moment.

    It will be up to the Cardinals of the Church at a future time to examine these matters and rule on them.

    If the Synod on Synods votes for female priests, over-turns Humanae Vitae and codifies same sex blessings in Church then we can safely say we are dealing with an anti-Pope and then perhaps the synod will be the catalyst for serious deliberations and investigations on the validity of this Pontificate.
     
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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    You are right Bobby. For now we must proceed as though Pope Francis is indeed Pope. It is way above our pay grade to do anything else. It is excruciating--spiritual suffering of high magnitude. But that's the cross we are carrying at the moment. I am stepping up my prayers for BXVI however.

    Off topic but how is your little grandson doing?
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

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    "O Blood and Water which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of mercy for us, I trust in You."

    Yes, how is little Oran doing?
     
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  20. InVeritatem

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    Fr. Sheehey being interviewed right now on RTE1 radio. A wonderful priest!
     
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