Warnings From Beyond [Hell] to the Contemporary Church

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by LusoKnight, May 7, 2022.

  1. LusoKnight

    LusoKnight Principalities

    J: Ecône is on the unique good road.

    E: Is that the truth? Is it Heaven who said that? Speak, in the name of Jesus!

    J: When I say 'the good road' I do not wish to say that there is nobody else on the good road; but the road which Ecône follows is singularly good. That is what we mean. There are not many roads which are good, but there are many people who are on the good road. Ecône is on the good road and many people do not recognize Ecône are searching for the truth, and so they also are on the good road.

    E: Continue, in the name..., say what you must say!

    J: Archbishop Mgr. Lefebvre will still have a great deal to suffer, but he is good.

    E: Continue, in the name... say what you must say. Is the liturgy he follows good? Tell the truth, in the name of Jesus!

    J: The liturgy he follows is the only good one.

    E: Is this the truth, in the name of Jesus?

    J: It is the complete truth.

    E: In the name of the Most Holy Trinity, have you lied?

    J: No! It is the complete truth.

    E: Where does it come from? Who ordered you to say that? Speak, in the name...!

    J: It is She (he points upward) who says it; it is Those up there Who say it. The truth comes from on High. They, up there, do not like the new liturgy. In any case, the old Missal did not need to be modified... I am saying all of this against my will (he cries and sighs). In today's times, one should not obey all the bishops any longer.

    E: There are still some good bishops. Speak, in the name of..., nothing but the truth!

    J: There are still some who should be obeyed, but not all! Akabor has spoken about that previously. (he sighs and has difficulty breathing)
     
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  2. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    the exorcisms reinforce the Catholic Church's position as the only true one, and I wonder if there is some sort of demonic possession taking place simultaneously on a large scale; I think of this as I see the activity of Islamic State fighters who seem to be guided by a force greater than the Quran's promises to Muslim martyrs.
     
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  3. LusoKnight

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    E: Continue, in the name... all the truth!

    J: I would prefer to stop talking altogether!

    E: Continue, speak on behalf of the Blessed Virgin, nothing but the truth, in the name...!

    J: The German proverb which says: “Only he who swims against the current gets fresh water” is very true. Many priests will soon, as it were, be swimming in an infected, dirty, disgusting stream and they are not even aware of it. They let this filth bathe their bodies, and, what is worse, their minds, and they are getting in deeper and deeper.

    It is certainly difficult to swim against the current, but one does get fresh water. This is rather like the graces which They, up there, wish one to receive; but, as things are today, even more does it represent souls. More souls are saved through the Tridentine or Latin Masses than through priests who no longer say Mass in the proper way because that does not produce as many blessings. There is no longer the abundance of blessings in those churches because we are present; we dance around there and will soon outnumber the people.

    E: Tell the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin, in the name...!

    J: We will soon be dancing around in such great numbers that the churches will not have room for the people (sarcastic laugh of evil joy).

    E: Tell the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: For every one person, we can deploy two, three (demons), or more, if the person is a little more pious than usual (laugh of wicked joy).

    E: Speak the truth, and nothing but the truth!

    J: And this reading “face to face with the people”! This is a tremendous advantage for us, but it is even more tremendous when there are women parading around up in front, in the sanctuary. (Laugh of wicked joy)

    E: Tell the truth, in the name of Jesus, Judas Iscariot!

    J: The next thing that happens while the women are still up the front, is that even some of the pious people-both men and women - who would really like to pray, find themselves wondering instead: “What is she wearing? How does her hat suit her? Has she had her hair done recently?” (Loud laugh of wicked joy)

    E: Tell the truth, in the name of the Most Holy Trinity!

    J: “Are her shoes the latest fashion? Do they make her two or three inches taller than her old ones? Is she wearing dark or light-colored stockings?” (Burst of laughter)

    E: Judas, tell the truth, and nothing but the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: Isn't that the lace on the bottom of her slip hanging down?” (sarcastic laugh)

    E: From now on, say only what the Blessed Virgin wants you to tell us - say only that and absolutely nothing else! What you have just said came from you (demons).

    J: I was, in a kind of way, obliged to say that... I have to go further and say that it really is a bit that way. They do think things like that, and above all they look at her face, which can be seen clearly. In earlier times, the women were veiled, but that was a long time ago. However, even although they are now allowed to go unveiled, it is not their place to be in the sanctuary of the church. The Pope and Those up there (he points upward) do not want any of that.

    E: Tell the truth, nothing but the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: The worst thing is when women are appointed to distribute Communion. Then there are scarcely any blessings or graces; these are not consecrated hands, these are women's hands. I want to clarify that - saying that these are women's hands would, in it self, have no special significance, but the hands are not consecrated. Christ chose men, and only men, for the Priesthood - not women. But this is pride - pride, the original sin of the Angels.

    E: Continue to tell the truth, on behalf of, and in the name of, the Blessed Virgin!

    J: It is like this - these women are proud to be able to go on show and to take part up there in front of everyone. Believe me, the priests - even the modern ones - who are going to see all this thrown out like rubbish in the trashcans, are going to see, just as clearly, that, with all their theories and their smart novelties, they are heading nowhere. However, they don't want to turn away from the road they have taken. Furthermore, they are reaching the point where they no longer know how to organize things to please the people. That is why many priests bring women up to the sanctuary. Then they still have a chance (satisfied laugh) that the people will come back again, since their churches are only one-third filled.

    E: Judas, Iscariot, continue to speak on behalf of the Blessed Virgin, and say nothing but the truth!

    J: Before long, they are actually nearer to Protestantism; the fact is that Protestantism is in some ways even better than the modern Catholic Church.

    E: Tell the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: The protestants know nothing else; I speak the truth - they know nothing else because these things are part Protestantism, but... Catholics!

    E: Continue to speak, Judas Iscariot, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: Deservedly, the Protestants are soon going to be nearer God than modern Catholicism. They know nothing else, as I have just said; I wish to add that they would, in a certain way, know it well. The intelligent ones might recognize that the Catholic Church - the good Church, you understand - could be the true Church and many might be converted. But at this point where the Catholic Church is today, I - or rather, all of us in Hell '- would say that Protestantism will soon be in a better position.

    E: Continue to tell the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin, and nothing but the truth!

    J: And next - preaching! There are places where the sermons are delivered by women. He up there (he points upward) does not want any of that.

    E: Continue to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: God wishes sermons to be given by a consecrated man, since this has most effect on the faithful. A non-consecrated woman is a long way from having the same effect, without taking into account the fact that people do not pay any attention to her sermon. A woman who preaches is no longer good. She cannot preach seriously, for if she were good and still had a serious mind, she would not be preaching at all.

    The imitation of Christ, the virtues, the Cross and the Saints are subjects now hardly touched upon at Mass, or in the sermons. Even the consecrated priests no longer preach them in the majority of places.

    E: Continue to tell the truth, on behalf of the Blessed Virgin and say nothing but the truth!

    J: If this woman does not go into the depths of the subject of her sermon, how can the people draw any benefit from it? At the very most, they may get some very strange ideas from it; not always; but, whatever the circumstances, such a sermon has no worth at all.

    The altar facing the people is not good, particularly for the women. It is like I said before about women in the sanctuary. Now the women say to themselves: What hairstyle does he have? Is it well combed? Has he been to the hairdresser recently! Goodness! Now it is curly...it wasn’t like that before. He has beautiful teeth! (Ironic laugh)

    E: Continue to tell the truth, in the name of the Blessed Virgin, and nothing but the truth!

    J: His vestments suit him very well, he is still quite young, what a shame he is a priest (gleeful laughter)...etc. But if he celebrated Mass facing the altar, such thoughts would not come to the women. When he used to turn around after they had been praying it was of no consequence. That is why God knows well that Mass should be said with back turned to the people, in other words, the right way round.

    E: Tell the truth, by order of the Blessed Virgin - nothing but the truth - continue!
     
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  4. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    Thank you for posting! It is always so amazing to me how much we can learn of the unseen world through our Catholic faith. We are privileged because we believe that God has not finished his revelations through Holy Scriptures but has an infinite treasure of holy knowledge for those who never cease to pursur Him.
     
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Thank you for posting this. Hell certainly knows what is going on even if priests and Bishops don't. I have to make a wide circle sometimes to receive Christ from the priest. I don't think it is appreciated (funny looks) but there are others beside me. The number seems to be growing.
     
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  6. LusoKnight

    LusoKnight Principalities

    J: The tabernacle should be in the center. What does it mean when, on entering a modern church, the first thing one has to do is search for the tabernacle? One does not know whether it is up front, at the back, or on the side. In many places now, the tabernacles make one ask whether it belongs to a fox terrier (loud laugh of wicked joy)...

    E: Tell the truth and nothing but the truth. Judas Iscariot, by order of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: ...or whether it is a safe (he can scarcely contain his mirth)

    E: Tell the truth, Judas Iscariot, nothing but the truth, by order of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: There are many people who make tabernacles, of a kind, out of iron; that would be good enough for railroad tracks which men step over or on which they tread.

    E: Tell the truth, nothing but the truth, in the name...

    J: A tabernacle...you understand me?...ought to be gilded! I must say that neither gold, nor the most precious stones, would be good enough to enclose what it encloses. This (a gilded tabernacle) would still be a long way from being worthy of what it contains. It is shameful - even we, down there, must acknowledge it - it is shameful to see the kinds of churches and tabernacles that people are building.

    E: Tell the truth, stop laughing, tell the truth, by order of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: Then there are the churches where masses are said in the evening, or better, in the morning, and afterwards they have dances there! I must mention sex as well as dancing, because where there is dancing there are also instances of eroticism in the majority of cases. It could be said that there is not a single dance where sin is not committed, either by action or by thought. It would be better if I said that they provide the occasion for committing them later on.

    Dancing is our idea alone. But now, even Catholic priests - recommend these festivals and dances. To make the people come again, it is necessary that they (the priests) offer them dancing. So the order of the day is: beer drinking, dancing and an orchestra (loud laughter again)

    E: Tell the truth, nothing but the truth, in the name...!

    J: It is coming to such a point, or rather it has reached the point, where certain priests - they still call themselves Catholics, but they haven't been that for a long time - are arranging to bring into their churches men of certain sects, let us say, of the Pentecostal movement, etc..., so that they can speak their nonsense there. Then, it is not the Holy Spirit who prevails, it is we who prevail; to a certain extent, it is then black magic, which prevails. And men are so blinded that they no longer know the difference between east and west. Naturally, that gives us a harvest just waiting to be reaped. Those are the sort of priests we have today. Even the consecration, the essential part of the Mass, will soon be cut out - the essential part - do you understand me? (He sighs)

    E: Continue to tell the truth, in the name of the Blessed Virgin, nothing but the truth, only the truth, by order of the Blessed Virgin!

    J: Oh yes, the Blessed Virgin! That is something else again! They put her statue right in the corner, or better still, right at the back, in such a way that it can be seen as little as possible. Often it is a cheap little Madonna (when you can still recognize what it is). With modern statues, it is often difficult to tell whether they represent a gangster's moll or someone from On High (he points upward).

    E: By order of the Blessed Virgin, tell the truth!

    J: When there are still beautiful statues of the Blessed Virgin, people are more drawn to pray. That is why. They up there wish that...

    E: Continue, tell the truth by order of the Blessed Virgin. Say everything that she commands you to say!

    J: ...good works of art be displayed, at all events good and beautiful statues, which speak to the people. The tabernacle should be - when this is possible - richly gilded, and installed in such a way that the whole appearance of the church is in harmony. Let it not look like a nest for a dog - I have a fancy to say: like a tree-house for pigs (sarcastic laugh).

    E: Tell the truth, as ordered by the Blessed Virgin. Leave out expressions like that which come from Down Below!

    J: They do come from below, but I have been allowed to use them (He breathes heavily and laboriously)

    E: Continue to tell the truth, say everything the Blessed Virgin charges you to say! Continue to speak!

    J: The Blessed Sacrament, the Blessed Sacrament. It is no longer adored any more; It has been put completely to one side. Exposition (of the Blessed Sacrament) rarely takes place. There are still a few ceremonies of Reparation in the churches of the “Traditionalists”; apart from that, it is now the exception (rather than the rule). And yet...if you knew how great this Sacrament is!

    E: Continue, in the name...!

    J: If it were realized what blessings flowed from the Blessed Sacrament of the Altar! Such blessings used to pour from It when It was exposed outside the Tabernacle and people used to make reparation in adoration before Him! That was very beneficial for sinners. All that does not happen any more, which is the reason fewer souls are saved - I would like to stop talking, I really would!

    E: Continue, as ordered by the Blessed Virgin, say everything she charges you to say and nothing but the truth!

    J: I am still required to say this (he sighs heavily): the bulk of the priests are blind. We blind them. But, with a little good will and much prayer to the Holy Spirit, they would in the course of time, regain their sight. The Rosary would be a universal remedy, but it has been done away with almost everywhere. It is no longer fashionable, no longer the “in thing”, so to speak.

    E: Continue, by order of the Blessed Virgin, say all the truth, say what you have to say!

    J: The chaplet of Sorrowful Mysteries would be the most precious of the three; what I mean is, they are all precious, but that of the Sorrowful Mysteries contributes the most towards saving souls. That is why, On High (he points upward), it stands out as the most precious.

    E: And the other chaplets? Speak, in the name...!

    J: They are good too. They are all by their nature very good, especially the Glorious Mysteries with the decade recalling Pentecost and the Descent of the Holy Spirit. They are all good, but the Sorrowful Mysteries are good and precious because they cannot be separated from the contemplation of Christ's Agony in the Garden of Olives, the Scourging, the Crowning with Thorns, the Carrying of the Cross and the Death on the Cross.
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I seriously doubt the authenticity of this document.
     
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  8. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I read the entire thing. What gives me the most pause are two things: The demons insist Pope Paul VI has a double used by the freemasons and bad cardinals as his public self while he's basically trapped in the Vatican (I just have a hard time wrapping my head around this. Doesn't necessarily mean it's false, because how could I know?). And the way obedience is talked about as being no longer right in these times with all these bad cardinals and bishops. It just made me feel uneasy, though I do agree that you shouldn't obey something wrong or sinful.

    I can't make up my mind on it, but don't really need to. God has everything under control, reform is happening in the Church slowly but surely (from the ground up, it seems) and great things are coming, through suffering and tremendous graces.
     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The condemned apparitions at Bayside said that Paul VI had a double. I have not read the whole thing because it gave me a very bad feeling. I agree with you.
     
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  10. LusoKnight

    LusoKnight Principalities

    The allegations that someone posed as Paul VI at certain public instances didn't start nor did they end with Bayside. The extent and frequency of that happening is also a matter of debate. If this book had any ties with Bayside or corroborated it in a significant manner, I would question it too. But that's not the case. This was a real series of exorcisms in Switzerland. The victim was real, the priests involved are real, and the transcript is what it is. The translation seems pretty accurate from my limited knowledge of french.

    Of course, nobody is obliged to believe in it.
     
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  11. Patrick

    Patrick Angels

    I am reading these too. But much more slowly than everyone else it seems! I fall asleep reading. :) I paused at the sections about not obeying the bad cardinals and bishops too. I haven't gotten to the Paul VI section yet. I will re-read the obedience piece to see if there is more context. If I remember correctly, they said that the obedience was initially from priests to their superiors on matters of communion in the hand and other "modern" changes. I thought they were saying they (the priests) thought obedience was necessary but that these things were suggestions and not orders. No matter the context, it creates gray areas, which always cause red flags.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

     
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  13. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    I started to read but got a bad feeling too.
     
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  14. LusoKnight

    LusoKnight Principalities

    The discussion about obedience was pretty plain:

    "I have to say that, today, many bishops are not on the good road, and those ones must not be obeyed. Obedience is of great importance. Even in Heaven, Obedience is written in large letters. But it is now the time of the howling wolves."
    "No lamb throws itself into the jaws of the wolf. One cannot give obedience to wolves."
    "All men flee when the wolf arrives. Now, alas, it is the time of the wolves. Many bishops have become ravening wolves who no longer know what they are saying; and they must not be obeyed. In the eyes of Heaven itself, they can no longer lay claim to obedience."

    Has this not always been true? Obedience is a virtue of great importance, but one can't obey what's contrary to the faith and God's law.
     
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  15. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Same, very uneasy. :(
     
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  16. KyleHancock

    KyleHancock Principalities

    These messages say to not obey your Bishop and that Protestants will be better than lots of Catholics.

    That's what I would expect a demon to say.
     
  17. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    In discerning these excerpts, I've been instructed to walk away from anything which causes confusion or makes us uneasy.
     
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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, exactly
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, exactly.
     
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  20. josephite

    josephite Powers

    Hi LusoKnight,
    I think these demons are telling lots of truths but are also slipping in an occasional lie.:cautious:
    We know that a demon will tell a thousand truths to seed a lie.

    My main concern is the where Judas Iscariot insinuates that Jesus in not present in all tabernacles or at the consecration due to the priests unbelief in the real presence.

    J: If, at Mass, the priest no longer believes in the words of the Consecration, and has no intention of consecrating, then the host is not consecrated. Then, it is only bread, as the Protestants and the sects say it is. The majority (of priests) have “lost their minds”; they do only what the people command. They wish to be honored in their modernism and in their presumption, which seems to ooze out from the tops of their head (he grumbles).
    and
    J: The saddest thing of all for Those up there, is that the people believe they are receiving Christ in the host...and it is only bread. In actual fact, it is no longer Christ. That represents for them a loss of graces, and so makes it easier for them to leave the good road. They are deceived by their very own priests.
    and again
    J: People do not believe what Heaven announces through the “privileged souls”; the things She (he points upward) charges the privileged souls to impart, in the name of Jesus Christ; and when Jesus Himself appears, still they do not believe. Jesus and His Mother have said so often what is being said now, that everything is rotten in the Church, but, exactly as I have said, the bishops do not believe it; now the places of pilgrimage, more so the older than the more recent ones, are no longer recognized. There is still some superficial belief in Lourdes and Fatima, etc. but there are no longer many graces in those places, because the priests no longer say the good Mass there... (He remains silent)

    As Catholics we know that The Unworthiness of the Minister Does Not Invalidate the Sacrament as taught by the council of Trent,

    What, the Council of Trent states in Session 7 regarding the Sacraments, holds good also with regard to the Sacrament of the Eucharist; namely, that a Sacrament is validly administered even by the wicked, provided all the essentials have been duly observed. For we are to believe that all these depend not on the merit of the minister, but are operated by the virtue and power of Christ our Lord. These are the things necessary to be explained regarding the Eucharist as a Sacrament.

    Specifically in Session 7 and Session 13 of the council of Trent we have the following canons.

    In Session 7

    Canon XI.-If any one saith, that, in ministers, when they effect, and confer the sacraments, there is not required the intention at least of doing what the Church does; let him be anathema.

    Canon XII.-If any one saith, that a minister, being in mortal sin,-if so be that he observe all the essentials which belong to the effecting, or conferring of, the sacrament,-neither effects, nor confers the sacrament; let him be anathema.

    Canon XIII.-If any one saith, that the received and approved rites of the Catholic Church, wont to be used in the solemn administration of the sacraments, may be contemned, or without sin be omitted at pleasure by the ministers, or be changed, by every pastor of the churches, into other new ones; let him be anathema.

    Session 13

    Canon I . “If anyone denies that, in the Sacrament of the Most Holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the Body and Blood together with the soul and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.”

    Canon II. “If anyone says that, in the Sacred and Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and denies that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, the appearance only of the bread and wine remaining, which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.”

    Canon III. “If anyone denies that, in the venerable Sacrament of the Eucharist, the whole Christ is contained under each species, and under every part of each species, when separated; let him be anathema.”

    I remember Father Rippenger said in one of his spiritual warfare videos that an exorcist should not get demons to speak simply out of curiosity, as this is spiritually dangerous. I think this may have occurred here.
    Just discern these writings in light of our Catholic Faith. God Bless
     
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