Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The 'vaxxines' have failed.

    Britain is now contemplating giving the fourth dose in the new year as the booster protection apparently only lasts six weeks.

    The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing expecting a different outcome.
     
  2. ellen

    ellen Ellen


    Exactly..... The vaccine doesnt work!!!

    So the medical experts say "Therefore... we must give a second one ...if that doesn't work either... give another one!!!"

    What kind of convoluted reasoning is that??!! :confused:o_O
     
  3. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    He's got part of it right, just like we almost tipped over in 2008, the world economic system was teetering in 2019. Along with the common man rising up and electing Trump in 2016, it's why they accelerated the plan a few years and it's more than halfway to their completion.

    So his analysis of why is good, but where we're going is their planned economic collapse where they'll get those of us holdouts to knuckle under when our bank accounts are closed, credit cards are dead, and stores are closed. Then when they come with "the solution" many will knuckle under to feed their families.

    It's why it's so important to have your supplies and network in place now so you can live in a parallel economy with like minded people, and not be subject to the passport, which will most likely be an electronic implant...in your hand.
     
  4. AED

    AED Powers

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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a...cy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/

    I'm not fully endorsing the above nor advising all to read it, but it is fascinating that this article claims the primary reason the whole covid-19 scenario was "initiated" is because it has created voluminous cash-flows that stabilized a world economy about to head south. There is just so much going on behind the scenes that we'll never know about. But obviously, the general public is expendable in the process!:rolleyes:

    Lord have Mercy!
     
  6. Mario

    Mario Powers

    FP,

    I believe you are ahead of the game in this regard, which for you and yours, I'm grateful. Most on MOG find their like-minded support here, which, unfortunately doesn't translate into nearby neighbors. However, if even 50% of forum members can find at least 2 or 3 family or friends nearby for mutual support, that's a start.

    Now is the time to try to move beyond theory. But we must also keep in mind the Providential care of Our Heavenly Father! The two are not at odds: trust and preparation. We must do what each of us can prayerfully do, but trust the Lord to direct our path as we move forward. Pray and then listen to Joseph:

    Genesis 41:32 And the doubling of Pharaoh's dream means that the thing is fixed by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass. 33 Now therefore let Pharaoh select a man discreet and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34 Let Pharaoh proceed to appoint overseers over the land, and take the fifth part of the produce of the land of Egypt during the seven plenteous years. 35 And let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming, and lay up grain under the authority of Pharaoh for food in the cities, and let them keep it. 36 That food shall be a reserve for the land against the seven years of famine which are to befall the land of Egypt, so that the land may not perish through the famine.

    Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own insight. 6 In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.


    Still, we need to do what we can while we can; and the help of others is a wondrous plus!

    O Mary, Seat of Wisdom, pray for us!

     
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  7. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    You say it in far more moderate language than I could muster. He seems to think that using Colgate toothpaste denies anyone the right to oppose abortion or the use of abortion tainted stem cells in vaccines which we put into our bodies and the bodies of innocent children. I also heard no mention from him about what the the Vatican says regarding the obligation for people availing of the remote co-operation allowance to lodge their objection to the lack of ethical vaccines. Maybe he said something about that at the end of the video. If he did, he is one of very few voices in the Church calling for ethical vaccines as they push these tainted covid vaccines on everyone.

    I missed what he said about Archbishop Vigano, perhaps because I was so annoyed or perhaps that was in the part of the video I didn't watch. I share your reservations about Archbishop Vigano.

    Trying to find an excuse for his irrational rant, I thought that maybe he was addressing Latin Americans regarding a situation peculiar to that region. That excuse doesn't hold water because he spoke in English. I get the impression that his world view, at least with regard to this pandemic, is being informed by people like Fr. James Martin rather than by a direct line to Heaven.

    I also agree with you that the whole Vaccine/TLM/apostasy/end times business doesn't fall neatly into two camps. For some unknown reason, there appears to be a concerted effort to conflate them into two camps, one camp being good, loyal, obedient Catholics caring for the common good and the other camp being disobedient, backward looking, selfish protestants who idolise the TLM and have turned respect for Tradition into a weapon of hatred.

    All I know is that I have followed the Vatican's instructions to the letter. All my immediate family having co-morbidities, I have been sanitising, masking, social distancing and following every draconian rule to make sure I didn't get the virus or pass it on, Now, all I ask is to be left alone. Instead, I'm demonised by the likes of Mr. Restrepo and vaccine fanatics who, not satisfied with their own co-operation with abortion, want to force the rest of us to join them. The irony of it is that it's the vaccinated who are most likely to be spreading the virus. As to Mr. Restrepo's slur about our being ruled by fear, maybe he should take a look at pictures of the Pope addressing an empty St. Peter's Square if he wants to know what fear looks like.
     
  8. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Amen, brother.
     
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  9. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Spot on.
     
  10. Bernadette

    Bernadette Archangels


    Ditto! I too am concerned about responses that are so uncharitable, especially where there is such a great divide. That being said, this is a moment when I wish the MOG members could be in a room to discuss further as I would love to meet every one of you :)! This forum is such a wonderful refuge.

    God Bless!
     
  11. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    I am convinced this must be resisted. Mandates are possibly coming in this country, medical exemption letters issued by doctors who know the patient personally are rejected. I was not allowed in to support my wife for her ultrasound scan. Reason: My vaccine exemption letter issued by a local medical doctor due to my personal health condition has not been government approved. I am convinced this must be resisted. Not caving in. God bless.
     
  12. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    I have listened to a few of his videos before, not to this one. My impression on Restrepo has been fairly good, although an element of doubt has always remained in me. I am perpetually skeptical when it comes to self-proclaimed prophets.
    What stand people take regarding the 'mark', however, is a tell-tale sign. One cannot serve both God and demons.
    As Fatima Pilgrim said, the numbers don't lie. As I understand it, the vaccines are not very efficient as boosters are required. Further, I understand, death rates are up significantly in Germany in 2021 (year of vaccines) vs. 2020 (year of the 'pandemic').
    Archbishop Vigano has related those 'vaccines' with the mark according to Revelation. What stand people take regarding this is a tell-tale sign.
    So if indeed Restrepo spoke against those who wish to exercise their human rights and protect themselves from abortion-tainted medical experiments which may be harmful, then my stance concerning Restrepo is clear: Avoid Restrepo.
     
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  13. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    You are correct. Mandates are fascism plain and simple. A form of totalitarian control.
     
  14. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Yes, I hear you. But one cannot serve two masters, this much is clear. It is either/or.
     
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  15. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The devil hopes to divide.

    I don't care about anyone's vaccine status. None of my business.

    The government tactic is to divide and conquer. To create a superior group (vaccinated) and an inferior group (unvaccinated) to play one off on the other. Its the oldest trick in the book.

    Some people (including Marino Restrepo) have fallen hook, line and sinker for the government narrative of the good versus the bad.

    All are equal in Christ the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.

    Christ looks at no one's vaccine status but he looks at the love in our hearts for our fellow man.
     
  16. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Oh dear! right in the middle of the season of peace and goodwill to all men, my posting that video from Marino Restrepo has landed the poor man in the dog house with so many fellow forum members.

    To be honest I was somewhat surprised as so many others have said in their posts.

    I got the impression Marino was saying big companies like Colgate contribute to the abortion industry, presumably planned parenthood. My thoughts were, it is not about contributions to whatever industry but the problem of being jabbed with some concoction that has used human cells from aborted babies. I thought he had totally missed the point. Especially if he thought his video would influence anyone.

    No one should be forced to have an experimental jab that has proved to be ineffective. We can't judge those who have taken it either.

    We just have to hope and pray a good conscience and doing what we believe is the right thing before God will get us over the finish line in all this.
     
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  17. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I disagree with a few things he speaks about. More specifically, Restrepo is not from my country and doesn't understand the constitutional issues that underpin my reservations concerning being pressured to take the vaccine. Nor does he appreciate alternative methods to protect oneself from contracting covid-19. In fact, this truth is what irritates me most concerning vaccine mandates. Vaccines are not the only way to go.

    He is a sincere, faithful Catholic whom I happen to disagree with regarding the safety of the vaccine. Does this fact detract from the marvelous ways God has worked in his life? By no means! May Our Lady continue to cover him with her Mantle!
     
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  18. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    He missed the point on a whole lot of things. He says that the Lord has shown him that vaccination is the way to go. Then he says that anyone who doesn't go that way, especially if it's through private revelation, should watch out. So his private revelation to be vaccinated is good but another person's private revelation to refuse the vaccine is bad. Those of us merely following our conscience seem to be lumped in with followers of false private revelation whereas anyone going against their conscience to follow Mr. Rostrepo's private revelation is doing God's will. As someone who avoids unapproved private revelation, I'm flabbergasted at his effrontery.

    I take it from what he said that he is fully supportive of abortion. I came to that conclusion based on what he said about pro-lifers needing to be all-in and not use Iphones or Colgate toothpaste if they won't take the vaccines. So, given that his video is on YouTube whose owners fully support abortion, he mustn't oppose abortion, otherwise he wouldn't upload videos to YouTube or take their dirty money if his videos are monetised on that platform.

    He goes on to speak on behalf of the Church by saying that as Catholics we shouldn't be asking who made the virus, but ask ourselves what God is telling us with the virus. He seems to believe that the two are mutually exclusive. Did God reveal that to him? Or does he believe that this virus is a product of God's active will? If that's what he believes, he's way wide of the mark. He also seems to believe that God has given us these vaccines. Seriously? Does he also believe that God murdered the baby whose stem cells were stolen, cloned and used for these vaccines. He says that we are following fallen angels of science and that he has seen this spiritually. All I can say is God help Latin America if he is the best they have.

    With respect, Julia, you don't need to turn to someone like him to validate your being vaccinated. You have that validation from the one to whom God gave the power to bind and loose. That's all the validation you need. Be at peace with your decision.
     
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  19. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I didn't understand most of that document. Some parts reminded me of what I learned from watching videos about the virus and the vaccines. One was that after about ten days (or possibly less than ten) the virus is mostly gone from the system and what remains are damaged cells and inflammation.

    It looks like his warning about using the spike protein in vaccines is going to be drip released as a great scientific discovery. For example:


    Note how damage caused by the spike protein from vaccines is "rare". What constitutes "rare" is never defined but it is never applied to long term damage from the virus. "Rare damage" only applies to vaccines. In the case of damage caused by the spike protein, it should have been possible to compare the numbers from vaccine damage with the numbers of virus damage. But they would have needed set up an accurate reporting system for the vaccines to get real data for vaccine damage and there doesn't appear to be such a system, not to mention all the denials of any vaccine damage.
     
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  20. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Just to state. JULIA IS NOT VACCINATED. Maybe, just maybe if you have misinterpreted my post; is there the teeniest weeniest little splinter of a chance you and I and many others have misinterpreted Marino's intentions too.

    I was relieved to see from my own understanding and that of others on the forum that Marino is only human after all like the rest of us. But that should not detract from the hours of talks when he has given hope and consolation to many people in these dark and dismal times. God bless and peace to you and your family now and always. From unjabbed Julia. :love:
     
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