President Trump

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    It seems President Trump got in his motor and was driven out to greet the well wishers outside of the hospital.

    Never a dull moment.
     
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  2. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Yes...and he had pizzas delivered to the supporters who gathered outside his hospital! oh, I pray he stays strong. He is the last hope our country does not fall to communist/ Marxist rule. God protect him.
     
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  3. AidanK

    AidanK A great sinner

    What if this is what the whole covid things been about? Vaccinate and chip!!!
     
  4. Wes

    Wes New Member


    https://www.catholic.com/qa/the-mark-of-the-beast

    A small exert:

    "The Book of Revelation makes great use of symbolic imagery and theological themes. It used the events contemporaneous to its composition to deliver a message about the ultimate triumph of Christ. The beast symbolizes the various Roman emperors who persecuted the early Christians but mainly is a symbol of Caesar Nero (whose name in Hebrew has the numerical value of 666). The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor."

    In addition, many scholars have longed taught the the book of Revelation is absolutely the hardest book in the bible to read/comprehend. Revelation uses more imagery than any other book of the bible. A quick search will reveal that very rarely will two scholars agree on meaning of the "Mark of the Beast." Thus, it is virtually impossible to distinguish between whether or not the "Mark of the Best" is a number or a chip, or any other symbol for that matter.

    The point is this, when things start happening, such as if a chip becomes offered to you, you should think back on your foundations as a Catholic. Ask yourself, will a microchip implanted be from God? Will it deliver the fruits of God's divine will? Will it make me happy? Will it alter my free will as a human? These questions are not all inclusive, but help to establish whether or not you should be accepting of a particular device or symbol. By the way, this is not only about a microchip, but can be applied to any "mark" than may come about in human history.
     
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  5. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Agreed! There is something more about this covid thing. It's a corona virus. We have other corona viruses and not this crazed fear about the other ones. It doesn't add up. It hasn't added up since the lockdowns.

    I just find it interesting that some jump to the "its the mark of the beast" scenario. It might be. It might not be. If we are forced to take something, where free will is suspended, I don't believe this is the mark as the mark has to be taken with free will intact. However, just because it isn't the "mark" doesn't mean you should not be concerned or lining up to take whatever insidious thing put forth by some "authority" . You still need to use the brains God gave you to discern whether it is something you want or SHOULD have. The " you should take it because it isn't the mark of the beast" is faulty reasoning. At least for me it is.
     
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  6. Wes

    Wes New Member

    Well said.

    Personally, I would be more concerned with whether or not the vaccines being produced are using cells from aborted fetuses.

    As far as the virus is concerned, I first became skeptical when my sister, who is a doctor at a major hospital in Florida, stated that her hospital was not seeing the cases of Covid-19 that were being talked about in the news. She stated that in her particular field of medicine, many have taken the view that while Covid may be a serious virus, the real harm came from overreaction. She said they were literally quarantining everyone who was admitted to the hospital, without cause. Once the research began surfacing, she said she made the informed decision to treat it no differently from the flu.

    While I don't necessarily believe in conspiracies, I would like to know if any information is true about the virus being developed in North Carolina and sent to China for further development. As well as what is Bill Gates' exact involvement with pandemics and disease research. I have a very uneasy feeling about Bill Gates, but cant pinpoint why. So much information out there that I have no clue what to believe when it comes to Covid. Then of course, I read this article which is pretty eyeopening as well. I'm sure many have read it too. https://www.aier.org/article/open-l...ll-belgian-authorities-and-all-belgian-media/


    And, since this is a thread about President Trump, I will chime in by saying that while he is extremely unconventional in his communication methods, his decision making process feels to be extremely sound. I feel like God is using him for a purpose. I continually remind myself that God picks the broken to work his miracles. While Donald Trump was not in danger of being poor by any means momentarily, he was in danger of being poor in faith. I feel like God uses him and is slowly converting him. Miracle happen everyday!

    Prayers and Blessings for President Trump!
     
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  7. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    Very well said.

    I also have friends who work in hospitals and have said similar things to what your sister said about the virus and the hospitals. There is a cloud of confusion over this virus and I always have to think "where does confusion and chaos come from?"

    President Trump has handled this well, IMO. He has not been perfect but he has handled the crisis pretty well given the fact that it was a completely new situation.

    I have read the Belgian doctors article and it is very eye opening. What I find is that when you steer someone toward something that may be opposite from their current thinking, you get a lot of pushback. I am sure it is true for me too as we are comfortable in our thinking and avoid change.

    I have read quite a lot of Mr. Gates and his foundation. Not a fan. I know that the fact he is involved in some of the vaccine production has put my antenna up and am really careful about anything that has a tie to him or his foundation.
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    There was a practice run for what to do in the event of a world wide pandemic through the Gates Foundation in October of 2019. It was documented and posted in this forum but I am on my cell phone now. I seem to remember that Johns Hopkins medical people were involved also. It’s very crucial evidence.
    Pfizer is producing an ethical vaccine, no aborted tissue. If you are interested, pm me because my pro-life group at church sends me the latest info.
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. Excellent.
     
  10. All I can say....WOW.....like night and day between Muller and the Pope:

    Exclusive: Former Vatican Chief Says ‘Future of Democracy’ at Stake in U.S. Elections



    ROME — The former head of the Vatican’s highest doctrinal office told Breitbart News Thursday that upcoming U.S. elections will have an enormous geopolitical impact for decades to come.

    Cardinal Gerhard Müller, the former prefect of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), gave an exclusive interview to Breitbart News in the prelude to U.S. presidential elections, in which he particularly underscored the importance of the abortion issue and China’s aspirations for world dominance.

    ..................

    “The rivalry between the U.S. and Communist China is not a sporting competition for the first or second place of superpowers,” the cardinal insisted. “It is about the irreconcilable alternatives of democracy or dictatorship.”

    “China has no diversity of political parties, no free parliament, and no democratically elected and therefore legitimate government,” Müller said, before proceeding to catalog some of the more egregious human rights violations of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

    “No government has the right to arbitrarily arrest and even torture its citizens, to brainwash them, to hold them in concentration camps, to murder them, to harvest their organs like spare parts and sell them on the world market,” he said, in reference to well-documented CCP practices on Falun Gong practitioners, Uighur Muslims, and others.

    The cardinal also said that Beijing’s accusation of interference in China’s internal affairs for those who call out its atrocities must “unequivocally rejected.”

    “Human rights are universal and we are all brothers and sisters because of our common human nature,” Müller said, and “we must therefore denounce the crimes of the CCP in defense of the dignity of every Chinese person.”

    Cardinal Müller went on to assert that the world looks to America today to be a beacon of truth, freedom, and justice as it has been historically.

    “America secured human rights against the godless ideology of National Socialism/Fascism during World War II,” he recalled. “And then the Cold War against the atheist communism of the Soviet Union was won only with the help and under the leadership of the United States.”

    “The free world owes the American people the salvation of Western civilization, which has its foundation in the freedom and dignity of every person,” he said, but this legacy is “now being challenged.”

    ............

    “The slogan ‘America first’ is justified and self-evident for every American,” the cardinal said. “The President and the Congress are elected to serve the common good of the citizens and the whole state.”

    “But every American must also know that his country is the world’s number one power: militarily, scientifically and economically,” he said. “And because the U.S. is the first power in the free world, it must also put a stop to the imperialist grip of a communist superpower that seeks world domination and allow the Chinese people and other oppressed peoples to enter the community and solidarity of free peoples.”

    FULL ARTICLE:

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elec...uture-of-democracy-at-stake-in-u-s-elections/
     
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  11. HUGE! Chief of Staff Mark Meadows Announces President Trump Has Requested Declassification of Critical Spygate Documents including Danchenko Interviews (VIDEO)

    Chief of Staff for President Trump, Mark Meadows, joined FOX and Friends this morning to give an update on President Trump’s health and recovery.

    During the interview Meadows announced President Trump had ordered him to release requested documents from the Deep State Spygate scandal.

    Chief of Staff Mark Meadows: He’s already tasked me with getting some declassification rolling in a follow up to some of the requests Devin Nunes and others have made.


    Mark Meadows is referring to the classified interviews with former Brookings Institute researcher Igor Danchenko who is the source for the bogus Steele dossier.

    The primary “source” for the anti-Trump dossier authored by ex-British intelligence agent Christopher Steele “was a Russian spy, and our FBI [director] James Comey… knew it the entire time. Comey ran with the spying on the Trump campaign knowing the entire investigation was based on a lie.

    FBI Director Chris Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel are sitting on this evidence and refuse to work with congressional investigators.

    https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/sta...cuments-including-danchenko-interviews-video/


     
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  12. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    From President Trump...
    "I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"

    2:37 PM · Oct 5, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
     
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  13. Revelation 7:3 “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”

    if you think it possible the mark done by the angels on the forehead of the elect is a microchip, then okay.

    it is a hermeneutical principle that the Bible itself offers elements for the interpretation of the Bible itself.

    when angels mark the elect on the forehead, they show us the reality of the mark of the beast, that is, it is spiritual.

    and contrary to what you say, most interpreters of the apocalypse see the mark as something spiritual.

    this microchip thinking is a hysterical protestant thing.

    I am not defending the chip, nor saying that it is a good thing. but it is neutral in relation to human final destination, heaven or hell. the only really bad thing is that you can be tracked at any time. but the chip is neutral in relation to our free will and nothing will change that.

    and the most important: knowing for sure that the chip is not the mark of the beast, we can know what are the false revelations that are out there. There is no possibility that you will receive a chip and it will interfere with your soul and will.

    Ask yourself, will a microchip implanted be from God? Will it deliver the fruits of God's divine will? Will it make me happy? Will it alter my free will as a human?

    you can ask this questions about many things and the answer will be exactly the same as if it was a microchip. this is pure human things. Tv programs are from God? mobile phones are from God? Etc etc etc
     
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  14. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    my opinion is that the mark of the Beast could be related to some type of ritual / initiation into the religion of Antichrist, something that would be diametrically opposed to the sacrament of baptism / confirmation on the spiritual plane, people would see a false religion and be invited to enter it even with countless heresies that show it as a deception of Satan.
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

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  16. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    that's the steroids talking :)
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    LOL:D:D Anyway he seems a fun guy. I'd love to have a drink with him.
    I suppose Leaders have to give of an air of being super sure of themselves.;)
     
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  18. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Yes, he's really ramped up!!! His White House staff better brace themselves. I just hope he doesn't over do it, he could have a relapse.
     
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  19. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    they were adding dexamethasone to his med load. I take that before chemo and during. I whirl around like a cleaning tornado for 3 days until they wear off. I'm enjoying his energy....
     
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  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    He’s in the air in Marine 1 right now on
    way to White House.:)
     
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