Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Trump talks a lot. He has a gigantic ego, something without which he could not possibly have survived the broad and enormous campaign against him since he began his road to the presidency. I've heard little from him that I would classify as 'ludicrous'. Anytime he would say anything like that, I would expect to hear about it loud and clear from a media that is, almost entirely, dedicatedly opposed to him. Avoid Alinski, or at least sup from him with a very long spoon. He dedicated his primary, best-known book, 'Rules for Radicals', to Lucifer.
     
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  2. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    His habit of saying "I know more about (insert any topic) than anyone else in the world. Believe me" is pretty ludicrous. Thanks for the cautionary note on Alinski. I just meant I'd check out his background etc. I've no intention of going over to the 'dark side'.
     
  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Lots of people are ludicrous, then:D
     
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  4. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Alinski's Rules for Radicals, is the playbook the communists have been following since the fall of the Soviet Union in the 1980's. The only reason to look into it is to clearly see the plan that was set forth so many years ago. Other than that, stay away!
     
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  5. Don't let a crisis go to waste! That is their motto
     
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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The problem with the US media is, they are extremely liberal, progressive, anti-captialism and yes, for the most part anti-Christianity, with the exception of Fox News who tend to lean more conservative and balanced. They are the only (mostly) objective TV news outlet left in America. If not for them, Hillary would have gotten elected, the USA would already be deep into socialism/communism as its political choice therein. That day is coming, and we may see it as early as this November...... if the economy does not come rocking back. But I am not counting on that happening, based on credible prophecy of today. I believe we have entered the minor tribulations, a war is coming and the global economies will crash soon. I believe we are very near the times of Garabandal "when things are at there worst" and "when communism returns" and I look for the Warning to take place in March 2022 - Miracle in April 2022. But, "things will be at there worst" first and we are seeing this begin in early 2022 with the Coronavirus, which is weakening the global free market and ushering in socialism/communism.
     
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  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

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    Order out of Chaos! That is the motto of Freemasonry, which communism is its right arm.
     
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  8. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Exactly Mark! And if anyone wants to see the Freemason plan, then look to Albert Pike.
     
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  9. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    You're not wrong there!
     
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  10. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    I think you're correct Fatima. It feels like there is much more to come. However hard this is, it's just the beginning.
     
  11. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    I went and had an antibody test for Covid 19 and the results came back negative. I was disappointed because I was sooooo very sick end of January. I had flu shot but the doc said it was flu b not flu a....but didn't test. I was hoping that was Covid so I could donate plasma and also I am a nurse and would like to get on the front lines if I was antibody positive. But now, I will wait.....
     
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  12. Dave Fagan

    Dave Fagan Ave Maria

    Thanks for posting this ETA. Could be an interesting development. I didn't realise this was what you were speaking about. I was referring to the studies showing the effect of direct light on the virus.
     
  13. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I thought I have read though the tests are not always accurate for false positives and/or false negatives.
     
  14. I suppose that they both go together.
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I was just wondering. I love Michael Matt and the Remnant series. He turned very violently anti EWTN in a recent video. He claims EWTN has been taken over by the Bishops and has now sold out? I wonder if this is fair. Certainly I find Raymond Arroyo and the Papal poss excellent. Also interviews with the like of Cardinals Zen, Burke and Bishop Schneider. It seems a little harsh.

     
  16. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    yes I think the accuracy was rated at over 70 percent which is not great.
     
  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I have been wondering lately if the virus might have been aimed specifically at the USA? She seems particularly vulnerable to such an attack, as o a lesser extent are all democracies. Of course everywhere suffers, but China seems to back on her feet ,very ,very fast.

    This virus seems so strange. It makes you wonder.
     
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  18. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I watched the press conference because I have family members whom the virus would almost certainly kill, and some of them probably wouldn't be admitted to hospital under the criteria that the doctors couldn't be confident they would be able to walk out after treatment. (They heard that doctor's radio interview and it wasn't a pleasant experience for them after a lifetime of loyal, tax paying citizenship.)

    I watch what's happening in the US because I believe that what goes in America will eventually find its way to the rest of what's commonly known as the free world (although it doesn't feel so free for people who are effectively under house arrest "for their own safety"). I'm particularly interested in the US response to the pandemic because I believe that's where we have the best hope of a cure or vaccine. I have been watching Trump's interviews because I'm sick of the lazy, partisan, ideology driven English language journalism and I don't trust their spin. Thus far, all the headline sensationalism about his supposed gaffes have been nothing more than political hype apparently because this is an election year in the US and the media hacks, who never forgave him for beating Clinton, would sell their very souls to see him beaten by anything with a pulse.

    Watching the interview, I was already aware of suggestions that having antibodies may not guarantee immunity to the virus - something that has since been cuationed by the WHO (if you can trust anything coming from the WHO). I have no doubt that Trump and his medical advisors were aware of that long before there was any announcement from the WHO and probably long before the press conference.

    No guarantee of antibody immunity equals no herd immunity, therefore, without a vaccine, the vulnerable today will be equally at risk next winter and the following winters. If the experts can't find a vaccine, they will need to find a cure. So far, the best they have is treatment for the symptoms with no one-size-fits-all treatment. They're trying plasma treatment but, even if that's successful, how can they hope to get enough plasma for the whole world? It seems to me that the next step would be to find a cure - a means of killing the virus in the body. My medical knowledge could be written on the head of a pin. It extends to watching people close to me undergoing treatment which, if not applied very carefully could kill as well as cure. I'm thinking mainly of chemotherapy and radiation therapy but there are other treatments which can also be lethal such as blood thinners like high doses of aspirin. There's a reason for prescription-only medicines. There's also no knowing how this virus will change and spread now that it has spread to domestic animals.

    Watching the press conference, I just assumed that there had been background discussions about what kills the virus outside the body and whether there could be any way of incorporating that into safe medical treatment of patients. It never occurred to me for a second that Trump was suggesting filling a syringe with Dettol and injecting into someone's veins. But then, I don't regard as advantageous the possible collapse of the US economy and a worldwide depression which would serve only to heap more misery on the poor while advancing the proponents of a one world government doing the bidding of population controllers.

    You go right ahead trusting the millionaire-owned and controlled media and let me know whether any Irish journalist can explain away the harsh reality that the overwhelming majority of deaths in Ireland occurred in residential care facilities, the majority of them being elderly people in nursing homes. All that despite the extreme restrictions on our freedom of movement.

    There have been about 1,000 deaths in Ireland. We have a population of about 5 million. The USA has a population of about 320 million with total deaths of 54,265, over sixteen thousand of them in New York. Maths was never my strong suit, but I don't see anything there for our country to crow about, and our leaders didn't have the complexity of self governing regions or states such as New York pointing the finger at central government to cover up their own failures. Have you seen any mention in the media about Governor Cuomo doing facetime chats with his "isolated"brother from CNN - and the subsequent revelations similar to the controversy that led to the sacking of Scotland's chief medical adviser? I haven't, but then "Catholic", "God didn't do it", abortion death cultist Cuomo is a media darling here. There's a list of obvious media bias as long as your arm if you only bother to open your eyes and see what's happening.

    Here are a few more statistics re population and reported virus related deaths which should help you get things in perspective:

    France: Population about 65 million; deaths 22,614
    Italy: Population about 60 million; deaths 26,386
    UK: Population about 57 million; deaths 20,319
    Spain: Population about 46 million; deaths 22,904
    Netherlands: Population about 17 million; deaths 4,409
    Belgium: Population about 11 million; deaths 7,094

    That's a combined total of well over 100,000 deaths in some European countries (combined population total roughly the same as the USA) with among the best health care systems, yet remember all the hype about the supposedly inferior US health care system?

    There will be plenty of blame to go around when the dust has settled on this pandemic. I suspect that all those European fingers pointing at Trump will have plenty of fingers pointing back at them. And rightly so. Collapsing the US economy to manipulate the election of Trump's opponent is in nobody's intetests, least of all Europe's.
     
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  19. It appears that this virus is very contagious but that a large portion of infected go w/o symptoms which really skews the results being concocted and reported by the MSM. While very contagious, it appears that w/ the real numbers of infected calculated in, to be less deadly than the seasonal flu.
     
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