Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    What no screaming people calling him a racist? Oh wait, he is racist against the Chinese now. LOL. It seems it is hard to keep up with the agenda of the left. Mad about one thing and then not mad :). As Q would say, enjoy the show.

    My recent favorite was when Alyssa Milano came unglued during the Kavanaugh hearings and now Biden is being accused and she said it was a "cultural thing" :LOL:. Good times. These people are nuts.
     
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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

  3. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    I have always believed the shroud of Turin was the burial cloth of Jesus. Beautiful.

    There is a video of Taylor Marshall and this guy discussing the shroud a week or so ago. It was interesting to hear all the evidence discussed but I already believed.

    Thank you for posting this video Padraig :)
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I stopped believing after the initial Carbon Dating showed it to be from the 13th century.

    But I spoke to a very holy Dominican priest who was outraged that I had lost Faith in it. So this caused me to revisit it. I am so glad I did. I believe more than ever.

    Still I would very,very much like to see the Vatican allow new Carbon dating.:) What harm can it do?
     
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Yes, Padraig, but that carbon-dating fiasco, was later shown to involve a portion of the Shroud that had been damaged by a fire that occurred in the Middle Ages, which indicates the unreliability of that dating.

    Wrapped in the Love of my Savior!
     
  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes it seemed to be a later patch. The face of Jesus, the reconstructed face of Jesus always seemed to me to be a little harsher than the sweetness of the face, which is a lot harsher than the face I imagine in prayer. But I think the face of Jesus in the Shroud is of the dead Jesus just as He awoke which might explain it. Also it is the face of a man who had just been tortured to death.

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  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I've always been convinced of the shroud's authenticity because of the complete inability of any scientist to explain in a reductionist fashion how the image might have come about. Given how so many scientists despise Christ and the respect such an explanation would gain for them among their atheist peers, this failure seems telling. I'm also convinced by the masculinity and handsomeness of the image.

    There is another case that fascinates me. The Holy House of Our Lady in Loreto is supposed to have been transported whole from Nazareth to there by angels. This might seem far-fetched, but I've read that the very foundations are made of a rock not found in Italy, but common in Israel.

    There are also discoveries made regarding the tilma of St Juan Diego, the seer of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which have dumbfounded scientists and converted the atheist scientist who discovered them into a devout Catholic.
     
  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Did you know that they superimposed the facial image of the Turin Shroud of the image of the face of Jesus in Divine Mercy recently and it is an exact match?

     
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  9. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    It is also the same on the veil. Padraig, this is one of my favorite topics. The carbon dating stuff was complete hoax. Not one legitimate scientific journal would allow the carbon dating findings in their publications because their testing method did not fit any true scientific testing guidelines. I listened to a 30 minute recording that was at the end of a CD I received at a church once on the rosary and had this presentation added at the end. It was so eye opening. One of my favorite statistic of all is some outrageous number of conversions of atheist scientist who study the shroud. It was something like 95%. I don't recall the actual number anymore but will look for that CD and listen to the presentation again.
     
  10. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    found the CD I had. It was a from Father Francis Peffley. I couldn't find his exact talk on youtube, but here is 3 hours on the shroud from 3 different talks and his is one of these talks that begins at 2 hour mark:

     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Thank you Andy. I have often thought if I were a Pastor of a big enough Church of any size and had some spare cash I would try to get an exact replica of the Shroud and put it on show. The same goes for the Guadalupe Tilma.:)

    But I 'd bet money if anyone did so they would find massive sudden opposition. Demons would come from every where to stop it. Which is why its not done.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If I lived in Turin I would be visitng the Shroud once a week at least. What a treasure.
     
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  13. Sam

    Sam Powers


    Roryrory is fine, safe and sound! Just saddened by it all.
     
  14. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    One of the problems with trying to find the face of Jesus in the Shroud is that the scientists and artists are using the negative image. Not the actual image on the Shroud. This makes the face distorted. Can you imagine hanging a negative (film) of yourself on the wall? No. That is why my rendering on my avatar is the image directly from the positive, original Shroud. It's in my book, don't think you have read it. I studied it for 35 years, am a professional retoucher and restoration specialist by trade. But not saying I am authentically, perfectly right. Just going by my experience in working with film. Yes, I know they superimposed the face of Divine Mercy over the Shroud. I have done it on my computer, yes it IS a match. So is the Veil of Veronica which is still in existence in the Vatican. Although the veil is so faded and fragile the image can no longer be discerned. But early artists did copy it before it started to fade. And one time during an exposition of the Veil, the Face of Jesus miraculously appeared to a large crowd for several hours. That is in recorded history of the Vatican. Jesus wants us to see and venerate his Holy Face.
     
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  15. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    The Shroud is not on public view if you go to Turin. Only on special occasions every couple of years. But to see it would be life changing I am sure.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    Katfalls did you paint your avatar? Is that your original work? It is beautiful.
     
  17. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    It is a photo restoration done from a copy of the Shroud of Turin. Photographed by Barrie Schwortz of the original Shroud Research Team. I had to get permission from him to use his copy. But I knew it would be the best copy I could obtain. Then, working before computer days, and after the new technology I was able to restore the original Shroud image . . .the actual image. For many years I worked on the negative image, yes it has more contrast and detail than the original shroud, but I was never successful in finding the true face. Until I went to the original cloth image. Then it all fell into place. What you are seeing is the colorized version of a restored Shroud. I entered a before and after in professional print competition to be juried by my peers on work quality, using a before and after. What you are seeing here is not the one I entered. I left the blood stains in the entry. It was accepted into print competition and on display in the artist/restoration category of Professional Photographers of America and on display at the national convention in Nashville Tenn., three years ago. 10,000 professional photographers from all over the world attended the convention and got to see it. It took me 35 years of research and work to finally finish it. The panel of five jurors were not Catholic, just professional trained jurors looking at the before and after of the restoration process.
     
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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Congratulations on such fine well researched fine work. 35 years! Wow. Clearly a labor of love. I'm glad you received such recognition. It is a compelling portrait. The eyes are riveting.
     
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  19. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Thanks to the Holy Spirit that I got the job done. I was afraid I would die before completion and then not finish the job! It wasn't recognition for me, it was because Jesus wants his portrait to be seen and on the wall with your family. He is part of our family . . .He wants to be included. And he left us a portrait to use. Another miracle! and the modern scientists are still all buzzing about it. He keeps them guessing, hey?
     
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  20. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    An amazing accomplishment Katfalls. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
     
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