Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yay! I like this !
     
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  2. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Thank you
     
  3. Now this.....
    The way the drs. explained it was that this virus has "hooks" that latch onto receptors of the organs....like the lungs.... and does lung damage lessening amount of lung used in breathing. That's why the hydroxychloraquine and other" receptor blockers" act to keep the virus from latching on, destroying lung or blocking its ability, and why people then have seemed to need the assistance to breath. But the ventilators may then be too forceful for already damaged lungs. Seems like there are new facts each day. They really need to start treating, en masse, with these hopeful receptor blocker drugs like the President wants. When that's not done after all of the testimonies of success by the real experts on the from lines then it makes you wonder if that larger "plan" isn't being carried out. Doctors need to speak up about what's best for the patients. The big plan seems to terrorize doctors and make them feel threatened by the globalists.

    Bombshell plea from NYC ICU doctor: COVID-19 is a condition of oxygen deprivation, not pneumonia… VENTILATORS may be causing the lung damage, not the virus


    https://thecommonsenseshow.com/cons...gen-deprivation-not-pneumonia-ventilators-may
     
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  4. Well, not sure how accurate that is.

    I will tell you the experience of a friend who was close to death, on the ventilator, and now is off and breathing on his own.

    The virus caused pneumonia in both lungs. He was given oxygen but not on a ventilator. Ever increasing oxygen levels required. His heart started to give out because it was working so hard, due to oxygen deprivation from pneumonia.

    Put on a ventilator, and sedated. Doctors tryed 3 times to wean him off the ventilator but his body would not get enough oxygen.

    He stayed on the ventilator for 4 days (while fighting the virus). When his body had fought the virus successfully, he was taken off the ventilator and is able to breathe on his own. He now has confusion, weekness, and a heart arrhythmia but much better.

    The seeming consensus is that placing on a ventilator earlier rather than later produces a better result.

    Without the ventilator he would not have had enough oxygen.

    How would the doctor treat the oxygen deprivation caused by the virus without a ventilator if ever increasing oxygen is given and the patient's blood oxygen level is not increasing?

    The doctor in the article does not indicate an alternative treatment to a ventilator in such cases, and using a ventilator later rather than earlier does not seem to work better.
     
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Yikes. C'mon DJT. What about an executive order.
     
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  6. The doctor is saying that ventilators may be necessary but re-jigged so they don't do more damage to already compromised, struggling lungs.....also the underlying compromised system may lay the foundation for pneumonia in some cases that occurs for all sorts of illnesses in the elderly....esp. in hospitals....and often not treated at all by ventilators since the system was already too weakened....happened to a friend after a stroke who was struggling to breath and was simply given morphine to ease the struggle but which of course also eased the struggling muscles like the heart. A lot unknown and which the docs on the front lines are witnessing. Still would seem like treating the symptoms when they first show up (or even now as a possible prophylaxis) w/ those receptor blockers (hydroxychloraquine for one) is what the treating docs recommend so that things don't evolve to a stage where the ventilators would be needed....what Trump has advocated over what the stat/chart/"curve" removed govt. agency rep. doctors ignore.
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

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    The man who wrote this opinion, Kevin Wells, is President of the Monsignor Thomas Wells Society for Vocations. He's local to the DC area, where the late Monsignor Wells was located.
    I think he is the late Msgr Wells' brother. Msgr Wells was tragically murdered in his rectory, probably about 20 years ago now.
     
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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Let us know if you hear more.
     
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  11. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Got it. I just feel guilty getting too focused on the political when a lot of people are directly suffering one way or another. However, I do believe we've entered those intense times preceding the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
    I believe we're in the time when the truly evil people in our world are making their move.
     
  12. AED

    AED Powers

    Wow. Powerful. Let's pray for our priests!
     
  13. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Yes, I will pray!

    Trump in his press conference yesterday spoke of hydroxychloroquine and zpac at length several times. He kept saying ask your doctor for it. He said he was thinking of starting to take the chloroquine himself -- maybe as a preventative? He said that a lot is being manufactured. Very interesting that the press and Fauci and Birx refuse to talk about this.

    Italy has decided to mass treat their population with these two drugs.
    https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/italy-finally-starts-mass-treatment-with-hydroxychloroquine

    Here 6000 doctors say it's the best treatment:
    https://www.infowars.com/trump-back...ble-finds-international-poll-of-6000-doctors/
     
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  14. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    It's curious that the press is so focused on ventilators and not on the treatment, chloroquine and zpac, that have been shown to kill the virus. In yesterday's press conference Trump implied that the effectiveness of ventilators to save lives is the question you don't want answered. Dr. Brownstein too said that most people who need a ventilator will not have a positive outcome. The press is solely focused on ventilators, ventilators, and more ventilators . They're making sure that people don't hear about the solution that will truly help. Yes, some people may need ventilators but it seems to me that the focus should be on early treatment with drugs that work.

    Listen to Trump who is repeatedly saying talk to your doctor about the treatment with chloroquine and zpac that have proven very very successful. Start treatment as early as possible to nip it in the bud before the virus hugely multipies and overwhelms the lungs. If I were a health care worker I'd ask my doctor about chloroquine as a preventative.
     
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  15. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Sounds crazy, but who knows what the truth is at this point. Will there really be a horrible wave of death over the next two weeks? Does this prediction apply to the entire country, or just NYC? Did nearly 600 people die from COVID-19 in NYC in one day? Did these people receive treatment with hydroxychloroquine and zpac? Were they all on ventilators? How many of these patients had a DNR / DNI order? Are they just letting patients die? I really don't know what to think at this point. Too many questions, and not enough answers. Each day brings forth more doubt, and confusion. On a local level our ER has seen Corona patients, but to date they are not exceptionally busy.
     
  16. Mario

    Mario Powers

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinio...crisis-has-unleashed-intense-demonic-activity

    Pray for our priests, especially those going to covid-19 patients to provide the Anointing of the Sick!

    Also, my pastor invited Geralyn and myself to celebrate an ad orientem Holy Mass with him this Palm Sunday. Perhaps he wanted others to help with the various parts of the beautiful Gospel (narrator, voice, crowd, Jesus). At the last minute he asked me to give the homily; talk about flying by the seat of one's pants!:LOL: To join in the Sacred Eucharist obviously produced happy tears!
    But I included you all here at MOG!

    From Eucharistic Prayer I:

    You were included in our Holy Mass..."Remember Lord, your servants...and all gathered here...For them, we offer you this sacrifice of praise or they offer it for themselves and all who are dear to them...
     
  17. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Thank you so much.
     
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  18. Calling His Precious Blood down upon you and yours.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Thankyou Terry!
     
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