The Vatican Has Fallen

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  1. AED

    AED Powers

    It was 10 degrees the day I spotted them. All I could think of was "fire your travel agent!"
    We still have a lot of snow cover and ice too but hearing songbirds and seeing robins...this early...well it cheers the soul.
     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    Oh you have daffodils and snowdrops and primroses!!! How wonderful. Wont see those til end of April to early may.
     
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  3. maryrose

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    We have had a mild enough winter but lots and lots of rain. It's pouring rain all night tonight and there are flood warnings all along the river Shannon. I don't live near the Shannon now but my childhood home was right on the banks. Glad I'm not there now but I do have family members there
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Its snowing outside and my Boss, bless him just told me I could go home half an hour early after doing a night shift. There have been some serious storms the last two weeks with heavy flooding in England and Wales. Another storm due tomorrow. Poor People. But the nights are getting brighter.

    I planted loads of primroses and what not a few days ago.

    I passed a poor woman crying in pain this morning in bed in a Ward and prayed for her. Working in a hospital makes you think..and pray.
     
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  5. SgCatholic

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    Archbishop Lenga: Benedict XVI is the Pope, and Bergoglio is an antichrist
    February 25, 2020 From Rome Editor

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    by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

    FromRome.Info reported last week, that Archbishop Lenga was denounced by the spokesman of the Polish Bishops Conference for his defense of priestly celibacy.

    Today, the Tablet is reporting that the same Conference is forbidding the Archbishop Emeritus from celebrating Mass and preaching, for two reasons:

    1. the Archbishop is now naming Benedict in the Canon of the Mass as the Pope
    2. the Archbishop has called Bergoglio an antichrist.
    The article in the Tablet is entitled, Polish Church silences Kazakhstan Bishop.

    The statements which provoked the reaction from the Bishop’s Conference seem to have been made here in these TV interviews, of Feb. 18, 2020,




    And Feb. 22, the Feast of the Chair of Saint Peter:




    Included in the report from the Tablet is this statement, attributed to the Archbishop:

    In a book-length interview, still circulating in Polish on YouTube, he said he still recognised Benedict XVI as Pope and had dropped the name of the “usurper and heretic” Francis from his Mass prayer intentions.

    “Bergoglio has not confirmed himself in the faith and is not passing that faith to others, he is leading the world astray,” said the archbishop, who trained secretly in Soviet-ruled Latvia and Lithuania and was appointed Kazakhstan’s first bishop in 1991 and Archbishop of Karaganda in 1999. “He proclaims untruths and sins, not the tradition which has endured for 2000 years… He proclaims the truth of this world, which is precisely the truth the devil”.

    Read the rest at:
    https://fromrome.info/2020/02/25/ar...i-is-the-pope-and-bergoglio-is-an-antichrist/

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    (emphasis in bold is mine - SgC)
     
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  6. SgCatholic

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    FROM THE MOMENT JORGE BERGOLIO, IMPROPERLY DRESSED, WALKED OUT ONTO THE BALCONY OF SAINT PETER BASILICA ON THE LAST DAY OF THE 2013 CONCLAVE FLANKED BY TWO MEN WHO I HAD REASON TO BELIEVE WERE HOMOSEXUALS MY INTUITION (PERHAPS GUIDED BY THE Holy Spirit) TOLD ME THAT JORGE BERGOLIO IS NOT TRULY THE POPE
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    BISHOP GRACIDA JOINS ARCHBISHOP LENGA IN DENYING BERGOGLIO IS THE POPE
    FEBRUARY 25, 2020FROM ROME EDITOR6 COMMENTS

    by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

    I will merely quote, the Most Rev. Rene Henry Gracida, Bishop Emeritus of Corpus Christi, Texas, USA, from his blog today:

    THERE ARE SEVERAL SUPPOSEDLY ORTHODOX WEBSITES THAT INSIST THAT FRANCIS THE MERCIFUL IS A VALID POPE. PERHAPS HE IS FOR SOME OTHER CHURCH OR CULT, BUT HE IS NOT NOW NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN A POPE OF THE Roman Catholic Church.

    Bishop Gracida has publicly stated he doubted the validity of the renunciation from day one, and that he doubted the validity of the Conclave for the same reason. Even more so, he doubted the validity when news of vote canvassing broke in 2014.

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    https://abyssum.org/2020/02/25/from...men-who-i-had-reason-to-believe-were-homosex/

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  7. SgCatholic

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    Dean of Cardinals Declares War on Cardinal Zen

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    In a letter, the Dean of the Cardinals Giovanni Battista Re warned all cardinals of Hong Kong Cardinal Joseph Zen, 88.

    The letter (here) was leaked to AldoMariaValli.it (February 29). It discredits Zen’s September 2019 epistle to all cardinals by which he criticises Francis’ secret deal with the Chinese regime.

    This is Re’s first official act as a dean (protocol number 1/2020). Without producing any evidence, he claims that there is continuity between Francis and Benedict XVI regarding the Communist appointment of bishops. In reality, Benedict refused the deal that later was signed by Francis.

    Re explains that the Chinese State church is not “independent” anymore in an absolute sense as the deal allows the Pope to participate in nominating bishops. In other words: The Chinese church is simultaneously “independent” and “in communion” with Rome.

    Valli stresses that Re’s claims implies an aberrant ecclesiology, concluding that Rome is even willing to change the doctrine in order to please China.

    https://gloria.tv/post/jBtddL7EDckF2uc8GiyWWqhBt

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  8. AED

    AED Powers

    Upping my prayers for Cardinal Zen. He is I believe a "white" martyr like Cardinsl Mindzenty in the bad old days of the soviets.
     
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  9. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Do you know, it was said in some prophesy or other that the third world war would start in a very unlikely place. Anyone wondering if the bets are on for that unlikely place being the VATICAN.

    Can you imagine all those holy old men getting into hand to hand combat. I think it would be more civilised than what we are watching.

    It looks like the hierarchy are using their authority to silence any Cardinal, Bishop or Priest who dares question the validity of whatever comes out of the Vatican. I would rather they had a good punch up, may the best man win. And we could at least find out who the real MEN are. Punishing subordinates is a pink and fluffy way to shut them up by silencing them. Saint Pius Tenth, would give them a good slap if God allowed him to come down and sort the mess out. I hope to God they don't silence Bishop Gracida for daring to speak his mind.
     
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  10. DeGaulle

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    It took them decades to sort out McCarrick, yet the response to brave and good Cardinal Zen is almost instant. The Vatican has become a nest of vipers.
     
  11. SgCatholic

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    Archbishop Viganò Defends Cardinal Zen, Strongly Criticizes Vatican for ‘Wicked’ Agreement
    29/02/2020 Edward Pentin

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    Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has written an impassioned letter to Cardinal Joseph Zen, strongly criticizing the Vatican for its approach to China and saying it had “done everything and more to deliver the Chinese Martyr Church into the hands of the Enemy.”

    Referring in particular to what he called “the treacherous and wicked” secret agreement signed by Beijing and the Holy See in 2018 on the appointment of bishops in China, the former apostolic nuncio to the United States said he shared in prayer Cardinal Zen’s suffering.

    “Your heartfelt appeals, dear Brother in Christ, have systematically been unheeded and even mocked in a hypocritical and perverse way,” he wrote (see full text below). He also criticized the Vatican’s silence in the face of “the persecutory fury that has gained unprecedented strength” in China.

    Archbishop Viganò wrote the letter on Saturday in response to a Feb. 26 letter from Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re in which the cardinal harshly criticized Cardinal Zen as an obstacle for the Church in China.

    read the rest at:
    https://edwardpentin.co.uk/2485-2/

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  12. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

  13. AED

    AED Powers

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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Reese wouldn't know what it is to be modest if modesty itself bit him on the leg.

    I'd say the lunatics are desperately expending all their ammunition now that Bergoglio failed to come through for them.

    At least we broadly know who they are and what they stand for.
     
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  15. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

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  16. Sam

    Sam Powers

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  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    What does he mean by 'good at the role'? He probably sees priests as some kind of counsellor or entertainer.
     
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  18. Sam

    Sam Powers



    He has lost all sense of what a priest is.
     
  19. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    He means please pray for my conversion. That's what he really means.
     
  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Who cares. The old relics of the Woodstock generation are dying off. They're on their last hurrah, thanks be to God.
     
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