The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    I have disliked this song for most of my life. I remember people singing it in church when I was a kid. Yuck!!!


     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    Me too.;)
     
  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Me three
     
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  4. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Steve Bannon: Crisis in the Church Will Worsen, Laity Needs to Act
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    Stephen K. Bannon speaking in Rome, Sept. 22, 2018
    https://edwardpentin.co.uk/steve-ba...in-the-church-will-worsen-laity-needs-to-act/


    President Donald Trump’s former strategic adviser predicts an “existential crisis of trust” in the Church will worsen, especially if Pope Francis fails to dialogue with those he considers to be his opponents.

    Widely recognized as a pioneer of the “sovereigntist” movement which claimed a number of victories in the recent European Parliament elections, Bannon believes an absence of such dialogue will lead to growing disaffection in the pews, the Vatican becoming increasingly a “green” political party of the “far-left,” and a possible schism within the Church.

    The media executive, political figure and former investment banker sees a need for nuance to overcome widespread polarisation, and proposes a major conference in Rome bringing together faithful from all sides to discuss a way forward. Dialogue, he says, “is the way we hold the Church together.”

    In this June 4 telephone interview, Bannon, who comes from “working-class Irish Catholic Democrats” in Virginia, also discusses the controversial China deal with the Vatican, why he wholeheartedly rejects accusations of being anti-Semitic and a fascist, and his project to create an academy to defend the Judeo-Christian West at a 13th century Cistercian monastery near Rome.

    [Please read the entire interview at the link above.]

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    Jun. 17, 2019
    Amazon Synod to Consider Possible Ordination of Married Men
    The working document, which calls for “a Church with an indigenous face,” further recommends that the synod identify “an official ministry that can be conferred upon women, taking into account the central role they play in the Amazonian church.”
    Courtney Grogan/CNA | http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/amazon-synod-to-consider-possible-ordination-of-married-men [Please read the entire article at this link.]

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    Amazon Synod Working Document Criticized for Serving ‘Neo-Pagan Agenda’
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    Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri

    The working document for the upcoming synod of bishops on the Amazon region represents a “total opening of the gates of the Magisterium to Indian theology and eco-theology” which includes “clearly pagan” and “pantheistic elements of belief,” a Chilean author has said.

    José Antonio Ureta of the Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira Institute, part of the Tradition, Family and Property movement founded the eponymous Catholic thinker, said the new document opens the Church up to these two theologies which are “two Latin American derivatives of liberation theology.”

    Like liberation theology, he added, the working document’s starting point is not Christian Revelation but rather the “supposed ‘oppression’ in the Amazon region, making it a “privileged interlocutor” and a “source of God’s revelation” — quotes from the working document itself.

    He noted that the document, called an instrumental laboris which forms the basis for the discussions at the Oct. 6-27 synod, exalts Indian theology to such an extent that it limits the Church to “dialoguing” with the indigenous people rather than seeking their conversion, and calls on the Church to “enrich herself with clearly pagan and / or pantheistic elements of belief.”

    “Not even witchcraft is sidelined in this enrichment,” Ureta added, partly because it states that “indigenous rituals and ceremonies are essential for integral health.”

    But he believes a “real earthquake” is the document’s paragraph no. 127 where it states:

    “…it would be opportune to reconsider the notion that the exercise of jurisdiction (power of government) must be connected in all areas (sacramental, judicial, administrative) and in a permanent way to the Sacrament of Holy Orders.”

    Ureta said the passage calls into question a structure of the Church, between clergy and laity, which has been affirmed since the First Council of Nicaea, obscuring the “essential difference” between the common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood of clerics.

    “The latter is rooted in the apostolic succession and endowed with a sacred power,” he reaffirmed.

    This “dilution” of the Catholic priesthood, he continued, naturally leads to a reconsideration of priestly celibacy (the document invites a study of ordaining elders with families), and “even worse,” he said, a passage in the document calling for an “official ministry” for women.

    Ureta added that “from an ecological point of view,” the instrumentum laboris shows an acceptance for the “deification of nature” promoted in UN conferences on the environment since at least 1972.

    “This neo-pagan UN agenda is now proposed by a Synodal Assembly of the Catholic Church,” Ureta said.

    He went on to say that the working document is also “an apology” for the “worst kind” of communism, “disguised as communitarianism,” and in the form of “collectivism of small communities.”

    And he added that the indigenous philosophy of “good living” (sumak kawsay), which figures highly in the working document, assumes an “intercommunication between the whole cosmos, in which no one excludes or is excluded” and proposes a communitarian lifestyle where “feeling, thinking and acting” are the same.

    Ureta concluded by saying that it is a reminder of Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira’s denunciation of indigenous tribalism as a “new and even more radical stage of the Anarchist Revolution,” one which ends up “devouring freedom” as independent thought, will and ways of being are “merged” into the “collective personality of the tribe.”

    “The instrumentum laboris is nothing short of an invitation for humanity to take a fatal step towards the final abyss of the anti-Christian Revolution,” Ureta warned.

    [Please continue read the full article here, https://edwardpentin.co.uk/amazon-synod-working-document-criticized-for-serving-neo-pagan-agenda/ .]
     
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  5. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Unfortunately it appears that the Church's magisterium doesn't share your view. The same people who pulled out all the stops to celebrate Luther's reformation will condemn you and anyone who doesn't believe that all paths lead to eternal salvation, with a back door to Heaven for those who deny Christ provided they are "good people".
     
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  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Father Hunwicke has a good column today about Pope Francis' changes to the Our Father, you know, the prayer that Jesus Christ, Our Lord and God dictated to His Apostles.

    Fr. Hunwicke tells of a respected authority and expert in Classical Greek, all the more authoritative because he doesn't particularly like her, who makes it clear that what PF is offering is not a 'translation', but entirely an invention off the top of his head.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He was ,clearly ordered to do this. But who ordered him?

    Poor Cardinal Burke he must think he is in Purgatory.
     
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  8. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Maybe the same who seek to "deprogram" some in Catholic movements who have "picked up their cross" like the nuns we just read about or the poor traditionalist priests flocks who shun Vatican II.

    Remember; See something - Say something!

    https://agensir.it/europa/2019/06/1...tholic-communities-1-300-reports-in-5-months/

    French bishops denounce sectarian drifts in Catholic communities. A Dossier illustrating the work carried out by the Unit established by the Bishops' Conference was presented to the press. A total of 1,300 reports were filed in the period October 2018 - February 2019: 245 by phone; 1,000 by e-mail; about twenty letters were sent by post and about ten people were received. Cult of the founder, tendency to absolutize, isolation and external disconnection are some of the revealing signs. And those who leave the group are left alone in a state of depression and at suicide-risk

    After combating sexual abuse committed against children and vulnerable people inside the Church, the bishops of France broke another taboo that concerns sectarian drifts unfortunately seen in Catholic communities, with serious consequences on the victims. Thus in 2016 they decided to create a “Unit” tasked with registering complaints, informing the competent authorities so they may take the appropriate measures under the law, ensuring support to the victims and help them regain control of their life, and most of all help them find the courage to report to the competent courts of justice.

    The figures. From October 2018 to February 2019, the Unit – created by the French Bishops’ Conference – has processed 1300 reports: 245 by phone; 1,000 by e-mail; about twenty letters were sent by post and about ten complaints were personally filed. The reports show that “sectarian drifts” occur in new and old religious communities, in fundamentalist and traditionalist religious groups, in “recovery” and charismatic religious movements. The data are contained in a Dossier drawn up by the French Bishops’ Conference and presented at a press conference during which a documentary on spiritual abuse – co-produced by Catholic television network KTO and directed by Jean-Claude and Anne Duret – was also screened: a 56-minute journey into congregations and new religious communities, a reportage to investigate a phenomenon which has only recently emerged inside the Church, whose primary aim is

    “to inform and raise public awareness on the possible risks connected with the quest for spirituality.”

    The bishops’ reaction. “We firmly believe – said Msgr. Alain Planet, bishop of Carcassone and Narbonne, coordinator of the Unit – that the only answer to such evil is to combat is and we hope to give a contribution that may help carry out this battle in full transparency.” In November 2013, when some forty victims turned to me the bishops gathered in Lourdes, the President of the French Bishops’ Conference, Msgr. Georges Pontier, on behalf of the entire French episcopate, replied with a Letter: “We heard the cry of people who have suffered in the heart of the Church. Our thoughts go out to those who have been hurt – some of them permanently – by the conduct of some members of the Church. As president of our Episcopal Conference, I want you to know, on behalf of us all, that your stories and certain practices you denounced have upset us and shocked us… The letter continues: “Certain actions that you reported are prosecuted under criminal justice.

    Nobody is above the law.”

    The phenomenon. There are always a set of criteria underlying a sectarian drift inside a community. These criteria clearly indicate that this is no longer “an accidental and circumstantial dysfunction” existing inside a community, but “a veritable system enacted and upheld, consciously or, more often, unconsciously.” Sister Chantal-Marie Sorlin, former magistrate, currently serving as judge at the ecclesiastical court of Dijon, enumerated the “revelatory” signs.

    The first revolves around the figure of the founder. An entire paragraph of the Dossier deals with the “cult” that frequently takes shape inside the groups. So it happens that the founder or superior somehow assumes the role of Christ: the members venerate him/her, put him/her on a pedestal and assure him/her obedience or utter submission. In the eyes of the followers the words of founder “are the words of the Gospel. His/her writings and teachings replace the Scriptures.” Woe betide whoever questions him/her: the members of these groups often make a “vow of unity” and criticism is seen as a threat to the fraternity covenant. The other criterion is the absolutization of the group. Everything that is “outside” is considered “apathetic, infidel, modernist.” We are faced with a “parallel church” and whoever criticizes, does so because “he/she is considered incapable” of understanding the charism of the group. There ensues that the community must necessarily be autonomous also in the formation or accompaniment of its members.

    Even in the presence of mental illnesses that require appropriate treatment, external psychologists are considered the devil. Sometimes there is an obligation to confess to only one member of the community. And while consecrated life implies leaving everything behind, in sectarian groups this separation turns into utter isolation: ties with family, friends, social network, even with studies and professional life, are severed.

    No television, radio, press: all information platforms are shut off.

    The Dossier also mentions the use of “internal phraseology” (marked by new terms and different meanings) and the “cult of suffering” (“if you are taking up the Cross it means you are on the right path.”)

    What happens to those who leave? This is probably the saddest chapter of the Dossier. “In deviant communities, every departure is withheld from other members. Thus, no one will approach the ‘traitor’. And since in most cases the follower had severed all relations with all his previous acquaintances, he finds himself alone. “Naked like Job.” What are the physical and mental conditions of those leaving the community? “They are completely broken persons.”

    “How many cases of depression, how many attempted suicides, how many suicides … The reason is that these people feel guilty and that they’re a total failure.”

    “All of these drifts have recently been reported in some Catholic communities – the nun pointed out – and they resemble those found in other sectarian groups. This shows that the axis of evil does not separate us from the external realm, it does not separate our communities from the world outside, but it’s within us.” She added: “the presence of these drifts is all the more serious when it occurs where we expect to find authentic witnesses of God and the true fruits of holiness.”
     
  9. A critique re: Father Jonathan Morris' decision:

    Called out of the priesthood?

    Some general thoughts regarding petitions for laicization, and a specific critique of Father Jonathan Morris’ recent public statements.

    Father Jonathan Morris, a priest of the Archdiocese of New York and former member of the Legionaries of Christ, recently has attracted a great deal of attention by publicly announcing his decision to petition for laicization and by offering a nationally televised apologia for that choice.

    I would like to make two immediate points. First, God bless Father Morris, who seems to be a priest of sincere Catholic faith, animated by a strong desire to do God’s will. I do not know him personally, and truly wish him well and pray for him. Second, in his public statements on this matter, I wonder whether Father Morris has (unintentionally) acted against God’s will, causing harm to his viewers and readers, especially to other priests and seminarians. I am particularly concerned about the possibility of scandal given to seminarians and young priests, as I am a seminary formator and faculty member.

    Some readers will note that I refer to Morris as “Father,” despite the fact that he chosen to present himself on Fox News as “Jonathan Morris,” wearing a suit and tie rather than clerical clothing. I use this title because Morris is still a priest, though he notes that his archbishop, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, has granted Morris’ request and suspended him from exercising public ministry as part of the process of petitioning for laicization.

    I do not intend in this article to say whether Morris’ petition itself is in harmony with God’s will. This is a complex and to some degree a personal question. Rather, I would like to offer some general thoughts regarding petitions for laicization, and a more specific critique of Morris’ public statements.

    Called to a new state of life?

    Is it possible that God might call a priest to petition for laicization? To quote P.G. Wodehouse’s super-valet Jeeves: “The contingency is a remote one.”

    I am an avid reader of the works of Msgr. Ronald Knox (1888-1957), who among other priestly duties was called upon frequently to preach to his brother priests in England. In one sermon given during a retreat for priests, entitled, “Accidie,” and posthumously published in The Priestly Life (1958), Knox gives his own answer to this question, advising priests who question their prior vocational discernment as follows:


    As to whether God meant you to be a priest, stop worrying. He certainly means you to be a priest now; your priesthood is contained, if not in his antecedent will, at least in his consequent will. You may have crept in under false pretenses like the Gabaonites, but he is faithful to his word, and he promises us the graces we need for our state of life as long as we do our part. He wants you, now, to be a priest, and a good priest.


    Knox offers this word of consolation (and challenge) after a long consideration of the struggles priests undergo, particularly the temptation to doubt the discernment of their seminary years. Knox’s spirituality was strongly influenced by St. Ignatius of Loyola, who emphasizes the importance of one’s current state in life in the discernment of spirits and of God’s will.

    A person cannot regard himself as a tabula rasa when engaging in discernment. Knowing one’s state in life, and the possibilities and limitations entailed in that state, help the discerning Christian to understand spiritual movements and the possibilities (and impossibilities) related to God’s will for him.

    For example, for the person who is basically maturing and growing closer to Christ, the work of the Holy Spirit is strengthening and encouraging, giving peace, comfort, joy, and delight, and sustaining growth. The evil spirit discourages, proposes problems with the positive course of one’s life, stirs disquiet and anxiety, as well as sadness for things left behind when one follows Jesus, and generally prompts turmoil and the temptation to turn away from Jesus and to something else.

    If a person was basically moving deeper into a life of sin and further away from Christ, the effects wrought by the work of these spirits would be reversed, with the evil spirit acting as a cheerleader and the good spirit stinging the conscience and prompting repentance and conversion in the sinner.

    The practical effect of misunderstanding these movements is clear. One could easily mistake feelings of “peace” with the action of the Holy Spirit, when in fact a habit of moving away from God has made the influence of the evil spirit feel more peaceful. So, for example, a priest who has been struggling with his vocation, perhaps indulging in thoughts or actions that have strained or even seriously wounded his relationship with God (here I stress that I am not referring to any particular priest), could feel a false sense of consolation when he makes a decision that is against God’s will, namely, to leave the priesthood. He might experience a great deal of inner turmoil at the thought of remaining faithful to his vows, and mistakenly think that such feelings could never come from the Holy Spirit.

    It is also important for priests to recognize that all discernment is imperfect, even the extended and closely guided discernment of their seminary years. Returning to the case of Father Morris for a moment, it is only fair to affirm that in his Fox News interview he points to a serious flaw in his own discernment, aggravated by the direction given to him by his superior in the Legionaries. I am not dealing here with the questions posed by such a basic problem of discernment. But every priest can find some evidence of flawed discernment as he looks back over the years leading up to his ordination. Such flaws do not necessarily mean one’s discernment was fundamentally unsound.

    When a priest wrestles with questions about his prior discernment, as Knox notes, he must remember that the grace of the Sacrament of Holy Orders provides strength to remain faithful in God’s service and the consolation of knowing His will here and now. Again, I do not pretend here to address every priestly crisis, but only to offer some general thoughts that ought to guide priests during times of vocational doubt and discouragement.

    Letting love conquer sorrow”

    (cont'd below)
     
  10. (cont'd from above)


    In his 1967 encyclical Sacerdotalis Caelibatus, Pope St. Paul VI affirms the tremendous value of priestly celibacy, at a time when its value was coming under heavy fire even from within the Church. In Sacerdotalis Caelibatus, Paul VI also addresses the specific challenge posed by priests who seek dispensation from the clerical state.

    Paul VI strikes a balance between upholding the permanent nature of priestly consecration and the Church’s need to deal with priests in crisis in a way that will be conducive to their salvation. In granting dispensations from the clerical state, the Church is not endorsing the departure of the priest, but rather is “letting love conquer sorrow”:

    There are some whose priesthood cannot be saved, but whose serious dispositions nevertheless give promise of their being able to live as good Christian lay people. To these the Holy See, having studied all the circumstances with their bishops or with their religious superiors, sometimes grants a dispensation, thus letting love conquer sorrow. In order, however, that her unhappy but always dear son may have a salutary sign of her maternal grief and a keener remembrance of the universal need of God’s mercy, in these cases she imposes some works of piety and reparation. (par. 88)


    Throughout this section of the encyclical, Paul VI strives to balance justice and mercy. For example, he refers to such departures from the priesthood as “lamentable defections,” yet affirms that such priests “remain our dearly beloved brothers” (par. 83). The fault for such defections, Paul VI teaches, lies not with priestly celibacy itself but with negative factors either before or after ordination:

    Their sad state and its consequences to priests and to others move some to wonder if celibacy is not in some way responsible for such dramatic occurrences and for the scandals they inflict on God’s People. In fact, the responsibility falls not on consecrated celibacy in itself but on a judgment of the fitness of the candidate of the priesthood which was not always adequate or prudent at the proper time, or else it falls on the way in which sacred ministers live their life of total consecration.


    Whenever The Church grants dispensations from the obligations of the clerical state, she acts with “heartfelt regret” (par. 85). Paul VI states that the imposition of “works of piety and reparation” upon the priest dispensed from his clerical obligations expresses this regret, confirms faithful priests in their commitment to celibate chastity, and warns those aspiring to the priesthood of the gravity of the priestly vocation and the selflessness it requires (par. 89).

    The possibility of scandal

    At first glance, there seems to be a certain logic in Father Morris’ decision to announce and explain in such a public way his decision to petition for laicization. His ministry has been highly visible, including the authorship of books and articles on the Catholic faith, as well as his service as an analyst for Fox News.


    He contrasts his decision with other Catholic priests and Protestant ministers who have more quietly left their ministries, disappearing from the public eye. Morris reports that he “has no ax to grind” against the Church, and that God is not calling him away from public life, at least not in the long-term. By offering a public testimonial about his decision, then, he can set the record straight, affirm his love for God and the Church, and chart out what he knows of the path ahead for those who have been his viewers and readers throughout the years of his priesthood.

    It would be possible, though difficult, to perform a point-by-point critique of Morris’ public statements. The difficulty lies in the inevitable ignorance of important details any outsider must struggle against, as well as the need to strike a delicate balance between criticism of a particular public action and mercy for a man who has clearly undergone a great trial and who is trying to do God’s will as he understands it.

    Instead of taking this course, I will offer a few words about the impression given by Morris’ statements, and the possibility of scandal being given, especially to priests and seminarians. I do this, fully acknowledging that impressions are always to some degree subjective, and that the possibility of scandal is not the same as actual scandal.

    My impression as I have read and watched Morris’ testimonials is of a relatively smooth transition from the clerical to the lay state. I am certain Morris does not mean to make this change look easy, and in fact he makes some comments that highlight its difficulty, but the overall impression given is summarized by the following quotations from Morris’ Fox News online article:

    • “My faith in God and my love for my Church is stronger than ever.”
    • “In this new chapter of my life, I won’t be rejecting my past, but rather taking what I have lived and learned, the good and the bad, and using that experience as I take on this new challenge.”
    • “As daunting as all of this change is, I am reminded often in prayer that the most important thing in my life has not changed. As a friend recently wrote to me, ‘You’re still working for the same boss!’”
    • “For years I have preached and even written books on waiting in peace for God’s perfect plan and timing. Now I have a chance to live it!”
    It stands to reason that for every priest who leaves the priesthood, there are many more who are tempted to do so, including some who are grievously tempted. It does not help them to see only the kind of spiritual soufflé presented in a statement like Morris’, one which so heavily emphasizes the positive aspects of what, from anyone’s perspective, ought to be viewed as a sorrowful turn of events. Of course, our hope must be constant, but Morris’ overwhelming positivity threatens to stifle in his readers and viewers that grief which is a necessary ingredient in any Christian’s thinking about such a vocational change. This positivity is especially strong in the early portion of his televised interview with Martha McCallum on “The Story” on June 10th.

    Another difficulty lies in Morris’ seeming presumption that his petition will be granted. I have not seen him make any mention of what he would do if he were instructed to return to the active ministry. Setting aside the question of the probability of such a negative reply, it is certainly a possibility, and the impression given is that Morris has made an irrevocable decision to leave the priesthood.

    Then there is the praise Morris offers to Cardinal Dolan for his role in the petition process. In his interview with McCallum, Morris expresses his gratitude for the fatherly way in which Cardinal Dolan has supported him throughout this process. Given the context, in which Morris unambiguously describes his decision as God’s will for him, the impression given is that Cardinal Dolan may hold the same view, also with no reservations.


    Yet, given the seriousness and complexity of the questions involved in such a decision, it would seem that a much more qualified expression of one’s knowledge of God’s will is called for. And it would seem that any statement regarding the involvement of one’s bishop ought to include the cautions the bishop surely expressed about pursuing such a petition.

    I have no doubt that over the many years of his priesthood, Father Morris suffered much and took his decision to petition for laicization very seriously. Yet as a public figure he is responsible for his public statements on this matter, and I am afraid that the impression he has given is that there is a relatively smooth path out of the priesthood for those so “called” by God. Perhaps Father Morris’ decision to handle his decision differently from other clerics by making public statements has not been as helpful as he hoped it would be. Perhaps, in fact, such a statement can sow seeds of doubt in the hearts of men who might otherwise have trusted in the constancy of the Lord and the permanence of their call to His holy priesthood.


    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2019/06/17/called-out-of-the-priesthood/
     
  11. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    It is rather interesting that this priest decides to so publicly and with much catholic news coverage seeks to be laicized with the "Amazon Synod" on the horizon and in all the headlines. What a great way to smooth the path for rigid catholics. Spinning a web of modernist rationalization and quotes from past VII popes who incidentally were at the helm for the mass evacuation of priests and nuns from the church. Timing couldn't be more perfect but I'm sure it is all purely coincidence. Right. Coincidence. Color me skeptical.
     
  12. There ought to be a course for Bishops about being overly influenced by the politics of the region to which they are assigned! If such Bishops as these were ever confronted with the question about sin being the root cause of nature rebelling I doubt if they would any longer have a clue. These days such a thought would instead cause embarrassment, esp. if asked in front of their colleagues or others they wish to impress with their secular knowledge. Or perhaps they could get more of a balance by meeting with those Bishops assigned to more unusually cold climates! The naivete continues....and it seems to be on purpose and without questioning.

    California Bishops Decry ‘Climate Disruption,’ Call for ‘Ecological Spirituality’

    The Catholic bishops of California released a pastoral statement on the environment Tuesday, calling on citizens to confront “the risks of a warming climate.”

    “The disruption of the earth’s climate is one of the principal challenges facing humanity today, with grave implications for the poor, many of whom live in areas particularly affected by environmental degradation,” the bishops declared in their 7400-word document.

    “Climate disruption will exacerbate social and economic inequalities, which points to the need to prioritize strategies to help all those in need adapt to our new climate reality,” they said, which means that changes “in lifestyle, policy, and economics are absolutely necessary.”

    The bishops also tied climate change to recent weather phenomena in California, proposing that global warming is aggravating the state’s meteorological volatility.

    “California’s climate is variable, with recurring droughts and occasional floods, but our warming planet exacerbates this variability. Droughts are becoming more common and more intense, with rainfall more volatile. Our climate is now characterized by wetter wet years and drier dry years,” they said.

    “As California becomes warmer, the most alarming implication is appearing in our mountains, where more precipitation is falling as rain, not snow. Increased winter runoff threatens more floods, and the Sierra snowpack is melting earlier, reducing water supplies,” the bishops stated. “California’s four warmest years on record have all occurred since 2014, with all predictions suggesting even greater warming.”

    Curiously, despite millennia of massive climate swings involving ice ages, extinction events, and pluvial periods, the bishops express their conviction that “climate change is something new” and will require “new, innovative responses across all sectors of society.”

    “A broad consensus among scientists worldwide identifies the primary cause of climate disruption as the burning of fossil fuels for energy generation, industry, and transportation,” they assert.

    The bishops urge “climate adaptation,” employing scientific knowledge “to forecast how our environment is changing, and undertaking responsible actions to protect everyone, especially the vulnerable.”

    Since climate change is exacerbating conflicts, all Californians must “prepare for an increasingly unpredictable climate,” they state.

    Among the many solutions proposed, the bishops urge the creation of “an environmental consciousness within all Catholic families” as well as the enactment of policies that “drastically reduce carbon dioxide emissions and other polluting gases.”

    Carbon dioxide is technically not a pollutant, since it is a natural component of the air we breathe (rather than a foreign contaminant), along with oxygen, nitrogen, and argon.

    https://www.breitbart.com/environme...y-climate-disruption-ecological-spirituality/





     
  13. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    "ecological spirituality"......sounds pagan. I hear more often these days the pagan sounding language.

    People seem to blame all the worlds evils on climate change, global warming or whatever catch phrase they come up with to try and sound relevant.

    Had a conversation with my very liberal neighbors a few days ago. Seems the AZ wildfires and the Hong Kong protests are all caused by global warming o_O and of course also Trump's fault because he doesn't support global warming. :rolleyes: I told my neighbor the cause of all the natural disasters and fires are human. Literally the fire by us (AZ) was caused by human means and the strange weather is caused by human sin. She looked at me like I had 3 heads but I don't care. Man's rampant sin is easier to believe than the science behind "climate change". Sheesh.

    The bishops, like the pope, should center their efforts around cleaning up the corruption in Christ's Church and not worry about how "spiritual" and "progressive" they sound
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yay for you, Tanker!
     
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  15. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    It means nothing. Just feel good bs.
     
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  16. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Christ came for the environment and bullshite science and left=wing politics. Just ask our buffoon pope.
     
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  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Karl Popper, the great philosopher of science asserted that the theory that claimed to explain everything in every possible circumstance was the one that was most likely to be false. If he was around now, he'd have a field day mocking this nonsense. My worry is that many men of the Church are latching on to this in a search for meaning and relevance because they lack belief in anything else. Any believing Christian knows that the end of the world, no matter how it comes about (and it won't be global warming, at least not of this kind) is something bound to happen and to be prepared for, yet there is no mention of such eternal considerations from any of these Churchmen. We know many of them would have prevented the Crucifixion if they'd had the chance, for 'humane' anti-capital punishment reasons; now their only interest seems to be evading the Parousia. They're pathetic. And mostly atheistic, I fear. Their 'kingdom' is of this world. Well, good luck with that.

    The fools pretend their main aim is to protect the vulnerable. If the world's energy supply is completely disrupted, it is not the privileged, like themselves, who will suffer the most.
     
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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    It’s such a sham.
    Not shame, but sham.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Gagging sound.:eek::mad:
     
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  20. It never seems to end.....and "oh wow!" with this one.....but exactly what are these "documents" mentioned by Vigano? BTW, where is he currently?

    VIGANO SAYS HE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS A HIGH-RANKING MONSIGNOR MOLESTED CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY STUDENTS

    Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò said he had seen documents accusing Monsignor Walter Rossi of molesting students at The Catholic University of America.

    Viganò, who is the former apostolic nuncio to the United States from the Vatican, told Italian journalist Marco Tosatti in a Saturday interview he had received allegations that Rossi had sexually molested students from the neighboring Catholic University of America (CUA).

    “I can say that, while I was a nuncio in the United States, I received the documentation that states that Msgr. Rossi had sexually molested male students at the Catholic University of America,” the former nuncio told Tosatti.

    He said “the Vatican, in particular Cardinal Parolin, is well aware of the situation of Msgr. Rossi, as is Cardinal Wuerl.”

    Rossi is the rector at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception on the campus of CUA in Washington, D.C. He is also on the Board of Trustees at CUA, according to its website.

    CUA told The Daily Caller News Foundation in a statement it has not received any allegations against Rossi.

    “While we are aware of recent media reports regarding Msgr. Rossi, we have not received any allegations of sexual misconduct against him,” the university told TheDCNF.

    “The Catholic University of America takes allegations of sexual misconduct and assault on our campus seriously. We have robust reporting policies and procedures. If any member of our community would like to come forward and make an allegation of sexual misconduct or assault, please contact us.”

    The Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception and the Vatican did not immediately respond to requests for comment from TheDCNF.

    Viganò has also alleged Pope Francis knew of ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick’s alleged sexual misconduct but chose to ignore it and instead allow him to continue.

    MORE:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/19/dc-priest-sexual-catholic-university-students/

     

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