Pope Francis covered up McCarrick abuse, former US nuncio testifies

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  1. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Something is very wrong here. If I were innocent of heinous charges like these that were laid against me I would say so. Silence is not an acceptable answer from the Vatican.

    The truth will come out one way or another.

    The peasants are coming over the hill with pitchforks in hand.
     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    Yep. Reminds of a Tale of Two Cities. Dickens describes the ancien regime as being afflicted with the leprosy of unreality. What an apt description for prelates and Pope right now. Tone deaf while the pitch forks gather on the other side of the hill. You are right.
     
  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    And with torches lit.
     
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  4. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    P., Miracles do happen though, praying...

    Things appear to be continuing to ratchet up but I think that praying for protection of the Church from the devil will have good results no matter what,

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    Pope Francis launches global prayer campaign to protect Church from ‘Great Accuser’
    Diane Montagna | https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...rayer-campaign-to-protect-church-from-great-a
    ROME, September 29, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) — Pope Francis today invited Catholics worldwide to pray the Rosary every day during the month of October, “asking the Holy Mother of God and St. Michael the Archangel” to protect the Church from attacks of the devil — the “Great Accuser” — and to make her members more aware “of the sins, errors, and abuses committed in the present and in the past.”

    A Vatican statement issued today — on the liturgical feast of St. Michael the Archangel — seemed to be an indirect response to accusations by former U.S. Nuncio, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, that Pope Francis and several high-ranking prelates were complicit in covering up homosexual abuse by ex-U.S. Cardinal, Theodore McCarrick.

    The Vatican in fact would not say if Pope Francis was referring to its former U.S. Nuncio, Archbishop Viganò, the AP reported today.

    The Pope’s invitation has therefore left many “conservative” Catholics torn: while welcoming an invitation to pray, and believing in its power, many do not want to participate in what looks like a prayer offensive being mounted against Archbishop Viganò, whose allegations many cardinals, bishops, priests and laity believe should thoroughly be investigated in order to get to the truth.

    In today’s statement, the Vatican announced:

    The Holy Father has decided to invite all the faithful, from all over the world, to pray the Holy Rosary every day, during the entire Marian month of October; and thus to unite in communion and penance, as God’s people, in asking the Holy Mother of God and Saint Michael the Archangel to protect the Church from the devil, who always seeks to divide us from God and one another.

    In recent days, before his departure for the Baltic States [Sept. 22-25], the Holy Father met Father Fréderic Fornos S.J., international director of the Pope’s Worldwide Prayer Network, and asked him to spread this call to all the faithful throughout the world, inviting them to conclude the recitation of the Rosary with the ancient invocation ‘Sub Tuum Praesidium,’ and with the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel who protects and helps us in the fight against evil (cf. Rev. 12, 7-12).

    Prayer — the Pope said a few days ago, on September 11, in a homily at Santa Marta, quoting the first chapter of the Book of Job —is the weapon against the great accuser who “roams the earth looking for ways to accuse.” Only prayer can defeat him.​

    Today’s announcement coincides with the date Archbishop Viganò gave to his second testimony. Published in advance two days ago, in the statement Viganò restates his central charge about the Pope’s elevation of McCarrick, notes the contradiction between the Pope’s vow of silence and his “Great Accuser” homilies, and calls on Cardinal Marc Ouellet, prefect of the Congregation for Bishops, to use the documents in his possession to “bear witness to the truth.”

    Pope Francis has told the media that he “will not say a word” in response to Vigano’s allegations, but ever since the 11-page bombshell was published on August 25, he has referred repeatedly in his daily homilies to the ‘Great Accuser,’ who attacks the Church and sows division within it.

    His September 11 homily, delivered to bishops visiting Rome, was the first in his “Great Accuser” series. In it, he said:

    In these times, it seems like the ‘Great Accuser’ has been unchained and is attacking bishops. True, we are all sinners, we bishops. He tries to uncover the sins, so they are visible in order to scandalize the people. […] A bishop’s strength against the ‘Great Accuser’ is prayer.​

    Today’s statement from the Vatican continued:

    The Russian mystics and the great saints of all traditions have advised, in moments of spiritual turmoil, that one protect oneself under the mantle of the Holy Mother of God by pronouncing the invocation, "Sub Tuum Praesidium."

    The invocation “Sub Tuum Praesidium” reads as follows:

    “Sub tuum praesidium confugimus Sancta Dei Genitrix. Nostras deprecationes ne despicias in necessitatibus, sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper, Virgo Gloriosa et Benedicta”.

    [We fly to thy patronage, O holy Mother of God; despise not our petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers, O glorious and blessed Virgin. Amen.]

    With this request for intercession, the Holy Father asks the faithful throughout the world to pray that the Holy Mother of God will place the Church under her protective mantle: to protect her from the attacks of the evil one, the great accuser, and at the same time make her ever more aware of the sins, errors, and abuses committed in the present and in the past, and committed to fighting without hesitation so that evil does not prevail.​

    Concluding by recalling the famous St. Michael prayer of Pope Leo XIII, whose 25-year pontificate lasted from 1878 until his death in 1903, at the age of 93, and whose 11 encyclicals on the Rosary earned him the title, the “Rosary Pope,” the statement said:

    The Holy Father has also asked that the recitation of the Holy Rosary during the month of October be concluded with the prayer written by Leo XIII:

    “Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio; contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae caelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo, divina virtute, in infernum detrude. Amen."

    [Saint Michael Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; may God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.]

    Today’s statement left some Catholics dumbfounded, still others bewildered, some speechless, and some not.

    Deacon Nick Donnelly began the day tweeting:

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    And he ended the day, pinning to his Twitter page:

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  5. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    continued from above...

    One source close to the Vatican said: “It’s fantastic to pray the Rosary every day, and to pray the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, but I am confused as to what exactly Pope Francis is asking us to pray for. Is he actually asking us to pray that the accusations are not clarified?”

    Another layman commented, “He has invoked the intercession of Our Lady, the Mother of Truth, in the service — if not of untruth — then at least the obfuscation of truth and perpetuation of scandal. It’s all very ‘Alice in Wonderland.’”

    And when the news dawned in North America, John-Henry Westen, co-founder of LifeSiteNews, weighed in saying: “This may just be the greatest PR disaster in the history of popes. In a time where many are ‘accusing’ priests and bishops for sexual abuse and cover up, for the Pope to enlist the whole Church in praying against the ‘Great Accuser’ is unwise to say the least. The prayers themselves are great, and in fact the very solution to the crisis we’re in,” he said, “but by going after Archbishop Viganò in this way he has missed the larger disastrous implications of his ‘great accuser’ argument.”

    Finally, a source in Rome confessed: “I’m shocked. This is the most Catholic statement that’s comes out of the Vatican during this pontificate. Pope Francis is calling us to look to Leo XIII. This is likely the first time in his pontificate that he’s mentioned a pre-Vatican II pope.”

    A lesser known fact about Leo XIII is that, in addition to composing the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, he also wrote an exorcism prayer against Satan’s attacks on the Chair of Peter.

    Bishop Athanasius Schneider told the story of Leo XIII’s lesser known exorcism prayer earlier this year in a talk on the importance of the Petrine office as the “cathedra of truth.” Speaking in Rome last April, he said:

    Throughout the course of history Satan, the father of lies, continually attacks the Church, and especially the cathedra of truth, which is the Chair of Peter. Through the inscrutable permission of Divine Providence the attacks of Satan against the Roman cathedra have in rare cases had the effect of a temporary and limited eclipse of the Papal Magisterium, when some Roman Pontiffs have made ambiguous doctrinal statements, thereby causing a temporary situation of doctrinal confusion in the life of the Church.

    One can see this possibility expressed in the following words taken from the Exorcism against Satan and the rebel angels, written by Pope Leo XIII in 1884. The original text says: “Behold, the ancient enemy and murderer strongly raises his head! Transformed into an angel of light, with the entire horde of wicked spirits he goes about everywhere and takes possession of the earth, so that therein he may blot out the Name of God and of His Christ and steal away, afflict and ruin into everlasting destruction the souls destined for a Crown of Eternal Glory. On men depraved in mind and corrupt in heart the wicked dragon pours out like a most foul river, the poison of his villainy, a spirit of lying, impiety and blasphemy; and the deadly breath of lust and of all iniquities and vices. Her most crafty enemies have engulfed the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, with sorrows, they have drenched her with wormwood; on all her desirable things they have laid their wicked hands. Where the See of the Blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth have been set up for the light of the gentiles, there they have placed the throne of the abomination of their wickedness, so that, the Pastor having been struck, they may also be able to scatter the flock.”

    On the morning of October 13, 1884 — exactly thirty-three years before the final Marian apparition at Fatima and the extraordinary miracle of the sun — Pope Leo XIII, while he was assisting at Holy Mass in thanksgiving for the one he had just celebrated, had a vision that is now famous. Satan appeared before God asking him for permission to act undisturbed for a hundred years in order to destroy the Church, which permission was granted to him. The Pontiff then saw swarms of demons fall on the basilica of St. Peter, to invade the Petrine See. Immediately after the vision the Pope composed the prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel, which he ordered to be recited at the end of each low Mass, and the famous exorcism, from which the quotation just cited is taken. The dramatic phrase ‘on the See of most blessed Peter’ would later be removed by Pius XI in order to avoid scandal for the faith, but today at the very least it is prophetic.​

    In the Gospel for the feast of St. Michael the Archangel — in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite — Christ warns his disciples: “He that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea” (Mt 18:5).

    In the Ordinary Form, the Gospel for today’s feast speaks of an apocalyptic battle in heaven, and the casting out of Satan and his rebel angels’ to the earth (Rev. 12:7).

    Regardless of what Pope Francis’ motives might be, the suggestion to pray the Rosary every day of the Marian month of October, concluding with the “Sub Tuum Praesidium” and the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, can and should be taken up by the faithful with vigor. The Immaculate Virgin — who at Fatima said that “the Rosary can stop wars” — will surely accept the sincere prayers of her children, and use them to crush the head of the serpent and accomplish God’s holy will.

    As Cardinal Robert Sarah tweeted out today:

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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Praying to St Michael the Arcangel can always only be a good thing. But it reminds me of the saying, 'Be careful what you pray for you just might get your prayer answered.' There are very clear instances in Scripture of people being struck dead by angels sent by God. There is not reasons why Cardinals, Bishops and Popes might not be struck dead also.

     
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  7. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    We can thank Archbishop Vigano that the Holy Rosary and the prayer to St. Michael will once again be promoted by our hierarchy. The motives for promoting it smack of a heterodox hierarchy wanting to give orthodox Catholics the impression that they haven't completely abandoned the faith. But that doesn't matter. God is once again bringing some good from the sins of our shepherds. I didn't know that the Pope had a "Worldwide Prayer Network". Not surprising, I suppose, considering its director is a Jesuit. Is he responsible for the Vatican's videos with the underlying message that all religions are the same? It kind of tickles my fancy that Jesuits will be praying for St. Michael to "cast Satan down to Hell". Will their Superior General have his fingers crossed behind his back when reciting that line of the prayer?
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think in the first place that many of them do not believe in God at all.

    Those that do have a kind of, 'He's up there somewhere, maybe', kind of Faith, not a Living Faith.

    In either case they have long, long since lost the Fear of the Lord from their hearts.

    ...and The Fear of the Lord, as Scripture tells us; is the Beginning of Wisdom.

    Proverbs 9:10

    The Way of Wisdom
    …9Instruct a wise man, and he will be wiser still; teach a righteous man, and he will increase his learning. 10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. 11For through wisdom your days will be multiplied, and years will be added to your life.…

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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    I think this might very well be true—hence they have NO idea what they are unleashing with this call to pray the Rosary and invoke St Michael.
     
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  10. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Yes I agree. Praying to to Our Lady and St. Michael can never be a bad thing. the Rosary is our most powerful weapon right now. It is very sad to think that some might be dissuaded from praying to them because the Pope asked them to. Think about that for a second faithful Catholics have to think twice about praying because the Pope asked them to. How sad is that?

    I even think the intention the Pope asked for is a good one:

    Pope Francis today invited Catholics worldwide to pray the Rosary every day during the month of October, “asking the Holy Mother of God and St. Michael the Archangel” to protect the Church from attacks of the devil — the “Great Accuser” — and to make her members more aware “of the sins, errors, and abuses committed in the present and in the past.”

    God knows what to do with prayer. Have no fear anyone, praying this will not be praying against Archbishop Vigano if he is telling the truth. Prayer is not a magic spell. It brings down Grace, not evil. If Archbishop Vigano is in the right on this matter then these prayers will bring him a wealth of aid.
     
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  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Tee Hee:p
     
  12. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Amen Praetorian. Faithful Catholics have been praying all along and will continue to do so. :) Although, I think Pope Francis himself has readily reminded us many times of the Churches sins. So many times in fact one would think we have fallen into the errors of the Novatians and are condemning anyone who has committed a mortal sin and are expelling them.
    More theater of the absurd.
     
  13. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I just got this little gem in an email:

    Guess who read Ted Kennedy's letter to the Pope at his funeral?
    Yes, you got it, Cardinal McCarrick.

    Guess who defended the decision to have the funeral?
    Father James Martin.

    Cardinal Sean O'Malley did the funeral.

    Long connections
     
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  14. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I reckon that more than a few of them are Masons. The way the operate is so similar to what we read about the Masons. They say they believe in a deity. The Catholic Church and its teaching is their no. 1 enemy. They promise to keep each other's secrets. They protect each other. And they advance each other's careers. It must be standing room only in the Vatican's lodge these days.
     
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  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Pardon me if I say it’s getting a little smoky in there.
     
  16. AED

    AED Powers

    :ROFLMAO::p:confused:
    As in smouldering brimstone?
     
  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :DYes
     
  18. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    In this OnePeterFive article, they say that Cardinal McCarrick read a letter from the Vatican's Secretary of State at Kennedy's funeral, giving the impression that it was a friendly personal letter from the Pope: https://onepeterfive.com/homosexual...e-internal-ecclesial-attack-on-humanae-vitae/
     
  19. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

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    Archbishop Mark Coleridge
    Archbishop mocks Viganò: I wonder if he ‘thinks he… should be pope’
    Dorothy Cummings McLean | https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archbishop-mocks-vigano-i-wonder-if-he-thinks-he...-should-be-pope
    carlo vigano, catholic, mark coleridge, pope francis, vatican cover-up

    BRISBANE, Australia, October 1, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – An Australian archbishop has made derisive comments against Archbishop Viganò, suggesting that the Vatican whistleblower thinks he’d make a better pope than Francis.

    “The latest Vigano broadside (un’altra Viganata!) leaves me wondering if the Archbishop thinks that he rather than @Pontifex should be Pope. #papabile.” stated Archbishop Mark Coleridge of Brisbane on Twitter

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    In his second testimony — released last week — former papal nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò repeated his central assertion that Pope Francis knew that Archbishop McCarrick was “perverse and evil” when he made him “one of his principal agents in governing the Church.” Viganò also expressed concern over revelations that Pope Francis had played a role in covering up for or blocking investigations into other priests and prelates, including Fr. Julio Grassi, Fr. Mauro Inzoli, and Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor.

    In his original testimony — released in August — Viganò had called on the pope to resign.

    Archbishop Coleridge has shown himself to be an ardent supporter of Pope Francis’ reform of the Church. He stated in 2015 that the Catholic saying “love the sinner, hate the sin” with reference to homosexuality no longer holds since the distinction “no longer communicates” “in the real world” where sexuality is “part of [your] entire being.” He has also argued that using the word “adultery” for remarried divorcees needs to end. He criticized the four dubia Cardinals in 2016 for searching for what he called “false clarity” amid “shades of gray.” In 2016 Coleridge’s archdiocese defended the staging of a sexually charged, explicitly anti-Christian ballet and fashion show in a Catholic church.

    Coleridge’s September 29 tweet attracted negative attention from several prominent Catholic laymen.

    “It [Viganò’s claim] should make you [Coleridge] wonder if what he claims is true, replied Steve Skojec, the editor of the “OnePeterFive” blog. “How about you man up and support him?”

    This thought was echoed by Damian Thompson, editor of Britain’s Catholic Herald, who tweeted:

    “Shouldn’t it leave you wondering whether, as Vigano insists, Pope Francis was informed of McCarrick’s serial abuse right at the start of his pontificate? It has not been denied. Why?”

    “Indeed,” American canonist Ed Peters tweeted in response to Thompson, “a petty comment from a prelate. What so worries them about a simple question, Is Viganò right?”

    Christopher Manion, director of the Campaign for Humanae Vitae, was even more pointed.

    “Do you want the truth, your Excellency, or do you want to cover it up?” he asked Coleridge.

    Damien O’Donnell, the president of the European Council of Lay Dominican Fraternities, told the Australian archbishop that he believes Viganò doesn’t want to be pope, but is acting for the good of the Church.

    “On the contrary,” he tweeted, “I believe [Viganò], like the vast majority of devoted Catholics, has serious concern for OUR Church, the Bride of Christ and the many who have suffered at the hands of these predatory prelates who are being protected by the loud silence of #pontifex.”

    More than one commentator suggested that the archbishop was “fawning” over Pope Francis in the hopes of receiving preferment. Of 151 direct replies to the tweet, very few sympathized with Coleridge. The rather one-sided response was not lost on the Tweeters themselves.

    “Nice ratio,” remarked a tweeter from the Catholic Minority Report blog.

    Coleridge has sneered at a fellow bishop over Twitter before. Mocking the grief of Cardinal Jospeh Zen for the sufferings of Catholics in China, the Brisbane archbishop tweeted: “Things can be tough in China, I know, but I just wish the Cardinal would smile once in a while.”
     
  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    How does the likes him get to be a Bishop? He isn't fit to wipe the shoes of Cardinal Zen.

    There's a very interesting article in First Things about Cardinal McCarrick's association with the Papal Foundation. That's the US based charity which the Pope via the Vatican's Secretary of State asked for $25,000,00 to help the scandal ridden hospital in Rome. Both Cardinal Wuerl and Cardinal McCarrick were very eager to send the money. The lay members of the Board weren't so eager. Here's a link: https://www.firstthings.com/web-exc...al-foundation-mccarricks-conflict-of-interest
     
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