Betrayal pure and simple. the “cultural Catholics” in the US have been for 40 years led to embrace a social gospel that supersedes the gospel of Christ. They see P F as the embodiment of that gospel. Then there are the remnant Catholics who are often persecuted for retaining the Faith of our Fathers. They are rightly upset with the trends going forth and with PF but it doesn’t show up in polls I guess. I suspect PF’s handling of this abuse horror has infuriated nonCatholic Americans—as it should. Then again what do I know? Not much.
Padraig's point is that US Catholics seem to be displaying that very tolerance. I suspect, and hope, that the reason for his continued approval among US Catholics comes from an understandable, but mistaken, 'circling-the-wagons' reluctance to demonstrate such disapproval to the world at large, or from a more forgiveable tendency for a Catholic to admit disapproval of a pope to himself, never mind everyone else. Either that, or, as AED points out, the general Catholic population of the US is exceptionally stupid, or even wicked.
That we are giving into china's demands for the Church breaks my heart and also proves to me what Francis' agenda is
According to the Jesuit magazine, the Vatican admits the deal is a bad one but they're signing it anyway. It must be a very, very bad deal if a Jesuit news outlet is admitting that Pope Francis would agree to something bad. I wonder what's the rush to sign it in September. And why leak the news now when Archbishop Vigano has revealed that the Pope sent McCarrick to China despite being aware of his abuse record? Since it's a bad deal, the rush to leak the news and sign the document can't be meant to make McCarrick's involvement appear fruitful. I'm sure that the Chinese knew everything there was to know about McCarrick. And that wasn't his first trip to China where he liked to stay in the seminary run by the Government's Church. Could it be possible that the Chinese have more than written records of the Cardinal's behaviour with seminarians?
The priest at mass today preached a homily in support of Pope Francis and his , 'Revolution of Tolerance'. I wondered to myself if I was to start a dialougue with the poor man after mass where I would start? But we are coming from such opposed positions I could not really see the point. I am coming from a Catholic position and they quite simply are not. I could sooner dialogue with a Protestant to be honest, we share much more common ground.
If I understood the current pope´s homily referred to below correctly he´s comparing the predator priests to Our Lord. Pope Francis Says Accused Pastors Are Like Jesus on ‘Good Friday’ ANDREAS SOLARO/AFP/Getty Images 18 Sep 20181,802 Bishops who are accused should remain silent like Jesus on Good Friday when the crowds called out for his crucifixion, Pope Francis said Tuesday. When people insulted Jesus on Good Friday and shouted, “Crucify him,” the pope said in his morning homily at the chapel of the Santa Marta residence, “he remained silent because he had compassion for those people deceived by the powerful.” “He was silent. He prayed,” Francis said. “In the same way, the pastor, in difficult times, in times when the devil is unleashed, where the pastor is accused—accused by the Great Accuser through so many people, so many powerful ones—suffers, offers his life and prays,” the pope said. At the conclusion of the homily, Francis invited the congregation to pray for the bishops. “Take up the Gospel and read, and see Jesus, and where his authority lies. And ask the grace that all pastors may have this authority: an authority that is a grace of the Holy Spirit,” he said. Tuesday’s homily marked the fourth occasion in two weeks where the pope decried the action of those who accuse bishops, comparing them to the devil, the “Great Accuser.” Last week, Francis compared Vatican whistleblower Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò to Satan, the “Great Accuser,” after Viganò released an 11-page document filled with allegations of the mishandling of serial homosexual abuser Cardinal Theodore McCarrick by high-ranking prelates, including the pope himself. In these times “it seems that the Great Accuser has been unleashed and has it in for the bishops,” the pope said. “It is true, we are all sinners, we bishops,” he said, but the Great Accuser “seeks to unveil sins so that they may be seen, to scandalize the people.” The pope’s reference to the silence of Jesus before his accusers Tuesday reflects his own option to deny comments to reporters seeking to know whether any of the allegations are true. When asked directly about the accusation just after their publication, Francis dodged questions from reporters, including when he had learned about McCarrick’s abuse, telling them to read the report and make their own assessment of its credibility. Since that time, a number of bishops have criticized the pope’s “no comment” media strategy, insisting the allegations are very serious and that Francis has the duty to clarify the facts to provide the “accountability” for which he himself has called. https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...ccused-pastors-are-like-jesus-on-good-friday/
I'm not sure that a sample size of 221 Catholics ( with no mention if they are practicing or not) is a good basis to conclude papal favorability definitively. I know that in my experience this is not the case, and more and more people are speaking out. This doesn't ring true to me at all. But who knows? I do live in a blessed place (Alter rails, Latin, etc.), maybe it's just here.
Yes I was wondering about his myself. I think also Catholics tend to keep quiet rather thans peaking out. It is their way. Protesstants , on the other hand would be burning the pulpits by now.
I just got finished listening to Bishop Gracia call out this “Kaspar” heresy that God’s true nature is mercy and therefore sin is no big deal. Tolerance is everything. He got quite worked up and said NO! God’s true nature is love. Love is what animated the Blessed Trinity— not Mercy. Mercy implies the need to forgive. The Trinity has no need to forgive Itself. Mercy is an attribute of God and not His true nature. Wonderful clear explanation I thought.
Dolours: I'm glad I'm old because if he institutes the ecumenical Mass real Catholic Masses will be hard to find. And I can see how those solid ones who refuse this new "ecumenical" liturgy will be the ones excommunicated enabling the globalists to eliminate any real influence of Truthfulness about God's Divine Will over the new "religion" that will intentionally have no moral compass....placing PC orders for "charity" over all cultures.
Ouch. I didn’t say US Catholics are stupid or wicked did I? I said they were proselytized for 40 years with the social gospel and were for the most part cultural Catholics as opposed to serious devout Catholics. I think they have been sold a bill of goods but they are not wicked.
Looks like it did. https://mysticpost.com/2018/09/dram...aples-cathedral-cardinal-fall-ill-at-miracle/
Yes. I think these people do not really know what true love is. Better to go to someone who has brought up children to explain what love is. That Love and Justice go hand in hand rather than these Modernist tooelogians.
Happy feast day to Our Lady of Lasalette. Prayers that She will ask God to help us clean our closets out here in USA and the world over. May nothing remain hidden. What these evil bishops and cardinals (not the good guys) didnt bank on was God intervening to show us the truth!!!
I was trying to find something that Pope Benedict said shortly after he was elected Pope from May 2005 and instead I found this article from when Pope Benedict visited Fatima in May 2010 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ions-pope-tells-priests-idUSTRE64B5D720100512 From the article: He [Pope Benedict] said Church leaders had to acknowledge the “terrifying” truth that the sexual abuse scandal was the product of “sin within the Church” and that the Church had to repent for its sins and “accept purification.” Purification, at least in the form of rolling heads, has already started. Five bishops in Europe have resigned. One has admitted sexual abuse, another is under investigation and three have stepped down over their handling of abuse cases. ... The Madonna, who is said to have appeared to the three shepherd children six times, gave them three messages. The first two were revealed soon and concerned a vision of hell, the prediction of the outbreak of World War Two and a warning that Russia would “spread her errors” in the world. The “third secret” intrigued the world for half a century before it was revealed, inspiring books, cults convinced that it predicted the end of the world, and even a hijacking. In 2000, the Vatican revealed that the secret vision was a prediction of the 1981 assassination attempt on the late Pope John Paul on May 13, the same day of the first reported apparition in 1917. John Paul, who was hit by several bullets fired by Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca, believed the Madonna intervened to save his life. He had one of the bullets that pierced him welded into the crown of statue of the Madonna in the Fatima shrine. Benedict told reporters on his plane on Tuesday he believed that the interpretation of the Third Secret could be enlarged to include the suffering the papacy and the Church would have to endure as a result of today’s sexual abuse crisis.
