The Third Secret of Fatima and Corruption in the Church.

Hysterical

 

Padraig, I have been thinking about your question on and off since you asked it. The first thing that came to mind was Bl. Ann Catherine Emmerich's prophecies but although she speaks of a glorious renewal of the Church I don't believe that she mentions anything about the Triumph of Mary specifically. I have also been thinking of Marie-Julie Jahenny's prophecies a lot lately and I thought that she might say something about the Triumph of Mary or the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart and I feel a little foolish that I never realized that she was told that Mary's Immaculate Heart is the tabernacle itself,

Our Lady gave beautiful spiritual advice to Marie-Julie Jahenny on how to prepare our hearts to receive Our Lord in Holy Communion: (date?)

“My little children, moments before Holy Communion let me take your heart of flesh with all that is in it and I will purify your lips up to your heart so that there will not be anything left, (i.e. impurities /imperfections). The perfume will be the lily of my purity, mixing the scent of holy humility and beautiful charity, beautiful charity that so has often has her beautiful white robe torn. My little children, ask me, ask St. Joseph who will place the holy scent of his holy death and afterwards let me purify in the sight of all Heaven the place of your heart, I will put it in mine with all its holiness, with all its beauty. It will be the Eucharistic Altar where Jesus will rest, it will be His heaven in my heart where the angels will love it and I will crown this throne of lilies, violets and roses, I will be the guardian of this divine Treasury. The angels will guard and nothing will tarnish the beauty of the tabernacle. It is my Immaculate Heart.” “And then, my little children, tell the Beloved that you no longer have a heart yourselves, tell Him to grind it under the wheels of Divine Mercy and tell Him that the Divine Mercy brings these ashes to the ends of the world with these words: Love, Pity, Mercy, Recognition and Peace to the Earth and thanksgiving to the Adorable Heart that made of our miseries marvels of Mercy and sweet charity for the guilty souls (sinners).”
http://marie-juliejahenny.blogspot.com/p/the-divine-mercy-message-marie-julie.html
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Maybe this is a well known fact and I have missed the boat on this until now but assuming that this is true then the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart would then be what exactly? Not only, a restoration of the Church but a renewed devotion to the tabernacle and a renewed adoration of the Eucharist possibly? A firm acknowledgment by the hierarchy of the Real Presence? So getting back to your question, maybe Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich's prophecies of a glorious renewal of the Church is also speaking of the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart because the tabernacle is of course found in the Church? I would like to hear your thoughts on this along with any others thought on this. Thank you in advance.



From the Litany of the Passion - the Litany of Love, a prayer of reparation to the blessed sacrament taught by Our Lord to Marie-Julie Jahenny:

Adorable Sacred Victim, what brought You to willingly let us approach Your Holy Tabernacles, to Possess You and dissolve into its delights: It is Love. It is Love.
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Blizzard, I like that Father Malachi Martin reminds us that the Warning (actually the Aviso) means to be put on notice. In addition, in the beginning of the video he states that there will be a change in the papacy and that the present Catholic times are coming to an end. I am not at all certain about St. Malachi's prophecies of the popes but I do feel that there is some proof that they are authentic because the nick-names can be matched up to several popes including Pope Benedict, "Gloria Olivae". I believe that Petrus Romanus is not a final pope but represents multiple popes which follow Pope Benedict and imo this fits with what we were told by Our Lady of Garabandal because I believe that the Aviso will occur during the current pontificate. Iow, I highly doubt that God would tell us who the last pope is but through St. Malachi's prophecy He is hinting that we are in fact being put on notice and that we are in the end times and if we don't convert we will speed up the end.
Since I mentioned Marie-Julie Jahenny above and she has a prophecy of two anti-popes back to back which occurs towards the end, I wonder if this prophecy could be pointing to Pope Benedict and Pope Francis. I state this because some people still believe that Pope Benedict is the valid pope, personally I do not believe this therefore these people are making him out to be an anti-pope. These same people believe that Pope Francis is not actually the pope and therefore, he is an anti-pope. Well, in any case, these are interesting times that we are in.

Ref. Anti-pope - a person established as pope in opposition to one held by others to be canonically chosen.

 

I wonder if this might mean that ordinary Catholics will seek sanctuary in the tabernacles of their own hearts, when all else fails?..and this might not be altogether a bad thing?

 

https://fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/btr053_jacintas_tears.pdf

Article on Fatima; simple, and good.

 

I really like the passage you quoted from Marie Julie Jahenny. I had never read that before. Beautiful.

 

Very good.

 

Padraig, That could be too. Thank you for posting that beautiful picture, the woman receiving communion reminds me of my mom when she was younger.

AED, When I first read some of Marie-Julie Jahenny's prophecies I must admit that I was scared and a little turned off but she was given some beautiful inspirations and prayers which made me want to eventually take another look at all that she said. I wanted to provide the following link on my post above but I must have deleted it by accident, so here it is http://marie-juliejahenny.blogspot.com/p/litany-of-passion-litany-of-love.html . It will take you to the page where I found that beautiful picture of the tabernacle that I posted above and it also contains the following,

LITANY of THE PASSION - Litany of Love​

A Prayer of Reparation to the Blessed Sacrament taught by Our Lord to Marie-Julie.

Our Lord requested that the following prayer be said on Thursday mornings at 9AM in front of the Blessed Sacrament and Fridays in the afternoon.

He promised to all who would say this prayer, including children who would grant him this great mark of their love, He would give them a solemn happiness.

Our Lord: “I have come to bring you a way of making recompense to Me, a very easy way, reveal these words to My good friends. They will say passing over in their hearts all that I have done (for them) for love. As a reward, at their death, I will immediately attract them in the eternal sojourn.” (That is, the soul will be immediately attracted to Him and draw upon them the necessary graces for salvation at that critical moment.)

Our Lord also promised: “I will bless those who say this prayer at least once a day, I will give them a solemn benediction.”

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The Litany:

Oh my very dear Jesus, what brought You to willingly suffer for us a mortal Agony in the Garden of Olives: It is Love.

Oh my Adorable Jesus, what brought you to willingly separate Yourself from your Apostles during this Agony: It is Love.

Oh my Jesus, what brought to willingly leave the executioners and the Jews torture and bind You: It is Love.

Oh my Jesus, what brought You to willingly appear before the tribunal of Pilate: It is Love.

Oh my Jesus, what brought You to willingly descend into the obscure prison of Herod: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly allow the executioners scourge You without a complaint from You: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly separate Yourself from Your Holy Mother in order to suffer insults: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly to cast a glance at St. Peter when leaving the Praetorium: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly fall before Your enemies under the weight: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to Willingly die for us on a cross: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly give Yourself to our souls in the Most Holy Sacrament: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly reside for us in all the Shrines and Tabernacles in the world: It is Love.

Oh Holy Victim, what brought You to willingly tell us ‘Dear children, do not fear, come close, I sleep, but My Heart watches’: It is Love.

Adorable Sacred Victim, what brought You to willingly let us approach Your Holy Tabernacles, to Possess You and dissolve into its delights: It is Love. It is Love.

Oh Most Holy Victim: what brought You to willingly love us with a Love so ardent and full of goodness: It is Love. It is Love. Amen.

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Marie-Julie asked: “Lord, will You be willing to remain with us until the end of time?”

He answered: "It is Love”.​

 

Very. Thank you for posting it.

 

Gracia, great article

 

Great article. Didn't know so many details before reading it.

 

I liked it, too. A lot of good spiritual advice as well as info.

 

FATIMA’S THIRD SECRET — MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER
Posted on September 18, 2018 by Fr. Regis Scanlon

http://frregisscanlon.com/index.php/2018/09/18/fatimas-third-secret-more-relevant-than-ever/

 

FATIMA’S THIRD SECRET — MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER
Posted on September 18, 2018 by Fr. Regis Scanlon

http://frregisscanlon.com/index.php/2018/09/18/fatimas-third-secret-more-relevant-than-ever/


..........Keep in mind that this circulated text, which was purported to be originally part of the Third Secret given by Our Lady to Lucy and initially reported in 1963 and 1964 in foreign publications, predates both the Akita revelations (1973) and John Paul II’s statement in Fulda (1980). This suggests a unified message has emerged from different sources, which is another reason to take it seriously. (The parts corresponding to John Paul II’s statement at Fulda Germany and Akita are italicized). Our Lady stated:

"A great chastisement will come over all mankind; not today nor tomorrow but in the second half of the twentieth century. . . Humanity has not developed as God desired. Mankind has been sacrilegious and has trampled underfoot the wondrous blessing of God. No longer does order reign anywhere. Even in the highest places, Satan reigns and directs the course of things. Satan will even succeed in infiltrating into the highest positions in the Church. Satan will succeed in sowing confusion in the minds of scientists, who invent weapons to be mass produced. If mankind will not oppose these evils, I will be obliged to let the arm of my Son drop in vengeance. If the chief rulers of the world and of the Church will not actively oppose these evils, I will ask God My Father, to bring His Justice to bear on mankind.

Then, God will punish mankind even more severely and heavily than he did at the time of the great deluge. The great and powerful will perish the same as the lowly and meek . . .

But a time of more severe trials is also coming for the Church. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals and Bishops will oppose Bishops. Satan will enter into their very midst. In Rome, also, will occur great changes. What is rotten falls, and what falls must not be retained. The Church will be obscured, and all the world will be thrown into great confusion.

The great, great war will come in the second half of the twentieth century. Fire and smoke will drop from heaven, and the waters of the ocean will turn to steam, throwing their foam to the very sky. Whatever is standing will be overturned. From one hour to another, millions and millions of people will die. Those then surviving will envy the dead. Distress, misery and desolation will be found the world over.

The time is ever drawing nearer, and the abyss is ever deepening, and there will be no escape; the good will die with the wicked, the great with the lowly, the Princes of the Church with their faithful, the rulers of nations with their people. Death will reign everywhere, raised to triumph by erring men-the helpers of Satan who will be then the masters of the earth. . .

Later, however, when those have survived will be still on the earth, God will once more be invoked, when the world had not yet been corrupted. I call upon all true followers of my Son, all true Christians and the apostles of these latter days . . .

(Then summing up our Lady says finally) Woe and greater woe, if conversion does not occur, and if everything remains as it is! And especially if everything worsens![xi]

Note the reference to a great war and great chastisement coming “in the second half of the twentieth century.” That time has already past, right? However, rather than believe it will never happen, it is not unreasonable to believe that through Our Lady’s intercession, the time of mercy has been extended still longer. She does not give us these warnings to scare us, but so that we can change the outcome through our preaching, prayers and penances as was the case with Jonah and Nineveh (Jonah 3).

Another reference in the text might explain why the Vatican was not willing to reveal this message in 2000 at Fatima: it is the reference to cardinals and bishops in opposition to each other … with Satan in their midst which was not obvious in 2000.

Today in 2018, we see the corruption in the hierarchy unfolding before our very eyes. There is even a scandal involving the Pope himself accused by a credible source, former papal nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, of concealing the sexual abuse of former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.[xii] There is the internal ongoing strife over the papal document, Amoris Laetitia. There is the attempt by many bishops to bring the divorced and remarried and the LGBT to Holy Communion without changing their immoral practices. There is much more on the list, but these can be referenced in the media for all to see.

This is undoubtedly the fulfillment of Our Lady’s warning in the missing part of the Third Secret that “In Rome, also, will occur great changes. What is rotten falls, and what falls must not be retained. The Church will be obscured, and all the world will be thrown into great confusion.” The only thing that has not yet happened in the missing part of the Third Secret — perhaps because of the mercy of God — is the punishment for all of these sins.

While the punishment mentioned by Our Lady in the warning, “especially” since everything has “worsened,” could be anything from a world-wide economic collapse to a natural disaster like a meteor striking the earth, her warning is reminiscent of the punishments of the flood given the people at Noah’s time and the fire from the sky dealt out to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen. 6-9, 18-19). And it is only logical that God would speak to us in warnings and actions similar to the bible so that the people of the world would understand the nature of the sins and why they are being punished. Is God going to allow a huge meteor or asteroid to plunge into the ocean at a speed of perhaps 45,000 miles per hour causing 300 miles of the coast line to disappear all over the planet earth?

Of course, we don’t know all the answers. But we do know one thing: God is not mocked. And “everything” has “worsened.” We can only hope and pray that the Pope and bishops will take up the staff of Jonah and begin their journey through the evil Nineveh of our present day. If they don’t? Remember what Our Lady said to Sr. Lucia of Fatima about the spread of sin: “Woe and greater woe … especially if everything worsens.”

 

I know that there have been several versions of the 'secret' circulated and, although broadly similar, some will be more accurate than others and, of course, sensational invention is not to be excluded in some versions. I have just been reading a very long article in a magazine called 'Christian Order' (which is excellent, firmly traditional and highly informative) about the 3rd secret, some of which is already covered in links given above by other members but this article may be worth summarising for what it may add to the 'mix'.

According to the author, the secret has not been so secret after all. He states that Cardinal Ottaviani (Secretary of the Holy Office of the Curia at the time) read the secret on 13 May 1960. In 1963, he told a priest, Fr. Luigi Villa, that the secret was contained in a leaked diplomatic document that he had prepared. He had 'peppered' the report with phrases taken directly from Lucia's written version in order to make its contents known (as Our Lady had requested) but in an indirect way. The document was published in a German Magazine, Neues Europa and later by other publications. Fr. Villa was interviewed in 2011 by an Italian author Dr. Franco Adessa, who was writing on the subject and he asked Fr. Villa if he could confirm that this version of events was correct, he wished not merely to confirm it but do so firmly and unhesitatingly. When the author asked if he could publish the account of the conversation with the Cardinal and the phrases identified as having been contained in the secret, he not only agreed but urged him to do so.

The secret was summarised as: 'A great chastisement will fall on the entire human race; not today, not tomorrow but in the second half of the 20th century. No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan will reign over the highest places directing the course of events. He (Satan) will truly succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church. Also for the Church, Her greatest trials are to come. Cardinals will oppose cardinals. Bishops will oppose bishops and Satan will march in their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes. What is rotten will fall and what will fall will never rise again.'

As some of these phrases, published in 1963, are echoed almost to the word by the Akita warnings, given in 1973, it is little wonder that Cardinal Ratzinger (as he then was) stated that the third secret of Fatima was 'essentially the same' as the warnings given at Akita.

It does raise the question, what was the 'great chastisement' that befell the world in the second half of the twentieth century? Was it Russia obtaining the west's atomic secrets? The Second Vatican Council? The introduction of the 'pill' and the consequences to sexual morality? The acceptance of deviant sexual behaviour as normal or even praiseworthy? The internet? Or all of them and more?

 

Would the chastisement not be the apostasy which tallies up with the second half of the 20th century. Then related to the apostasy is everything that comes with it, immorality, attacks of family, pride etc.

 

All of the above I am guessing—the worst being the loss of good priests and bishops. Many saints have said that the worst chastisement God can is to allow corrupt priests.

 

Great painting, Padraig, so full of reverence. And notice how Jesus is center stage, with Our Humble Lady hidden behind the column!

Safe in the Barque of Peter!

 

I don't believe so. The great apostasy is what helps bring about the chastisements, but it is not the chastisement. It seems two chastisements are inevitable now. As I see it from prophecy, the first is man-made and is climaxed by (global nuclear war) and after the Warning comes the second wave of chastisements from God (natural disasters) and from his adversary, the Man of Sin, until until God brings about the finale of it all with the 3 day's of darkness and thus the end of the great purification and the beginning of the Era of Peace.

 

Definitely!

An apostasy brought about by poor leadership in the Church and a lax laity. As in the Bible, the worst Chastisement God can send to a people is to give them bad shepherds. We are seeing the worst fruits of these bad shepherds now. They have been at it in secret for a long time and now people are becoming aware of them and what they have been doing.

To be fair there are many good shepherds left, but now we have to look for them. They seem more a rarity nowadays. It seems the bishops break down into three general groups:

1. A few very fervent bishops who are attempting to point out to the flock the dangers in what is going on while at the same time trying to remain charitable and obedient and not lose their position and authority in the Church.

2. Some exceedingly evil bishops who are unfortunately in the highest power positions in the Church right now. They are attempting to pervert the Church into something it is not and foist a worldly ecumenical religion upon the faithful.

3. And a vast array of "don't rock the boat" bishops. These probably form the vast majority. They are of a variety of opinions about what is happening in the Church right now, but most are "going along" and don't want to cause trouble. These are the ones who if they were fervent could stop the rampant heresies. Even with a modicum of effort like doing nothing else but signing the Dubia could put enough pressure on to stop much of this, but they sit silently. They are exactly what we don't need right now and the reason these heresies are spreading like wildfire.

15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold, nor hot. I would thou wert cold, or hot. 16But because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold, not hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth.
Revelation 3:15