Prophesy - GSWYL

Fatima, by the way what a great Name ! it's very good for having studied the Catholic Faith for the past 35 Years as you said but to me please do not link Garabandal to these messages, I know also that you though for years (according to you almost 35 years as well) that Father Gruner, called also and as you somewhere, the Fatima Priest was not someone to take seriously, thanks God and as we all know, it's never too late to change his mind, in other words 35 Years is as you said a long time, thank you.


PS : My Friends, In no way any Garabandalist should link the Lady of the Carmel to this messages, thank you.

 

Hi Frodo, you are Great to remind us your knownledge about the Scripture, this is very rare especially today in 2018, by the way you are linking Garabandal to your comment, please remind me what you know about the Lady of the Carmel, in other words and as you can read I am calling her the Lady of the Carmel and not Garabandal, so please remind me what you know about the Lady of the Carmel, de facto we should understand your comment in full, thank you again.

 

Fatima, this is a thread about "prophesy" so I think you may continue to discuss what you like. I didn't know anyone was personally in charge of any particular private revelation to the point that he/she should run any particular thread on such a broad topic to his/her liking.

 

Of course Earthoangles (by the way what a great name as well) but this not a thread about Prophesy only, I am sorry Garabandal as Fatima Prophecies were related to this thread, in other words, I am still waiting for any reply to my questions, with all due respect, thank you Again.

 

Well that's its title and there has been a hearty discussion about many questions of various private revelations. No one has taken it upon him/herself to organize such discussion in any particular direction mandated by him/her personally or is considered to be THE expert because he/she has the most anecdotal information. That's actually the way people can learn all aspects. The Church Herself also permits such. So, Peace. No one has any intention that I can see of causing any harm to one's own personal history on any particular theme they've chosen to concentrate upon. It's not a competition!

 

Of course I am not a expert, any one here on this forum knows that but again and please do not link the Lady of the Carmel to this Thread, simple as that, thank you again.

 

Just a bit confused here then. Are you speaking of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel w/ its own history?

Our Lady of Mount Carmel is the title given to the Blessed Virgin Mary in her role as patroness of the Carmelite Order. The first Carmelites were Christian hermits living on Mount Carmel in the Holy Land during the late 12th and early to mid-13th century. They built in the midst of their hermitages a chapel which they dedicated to the Blessed Virgin, whom they conceived of in chivalric terms as the "Lady of the place." Our Lady of Mount Carmel was adopted in the 19th century as the patron saint of Chile, in South America.

Since the 15th century, popular devotion to Our Lady of Mount Carmel has centered on the Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, also known as the Brown Scapular, a sacramental associated with promises of Mary's special aid for the salvation of the devoted wearer. Traditionally, Mary is said to have given the Scapular to an early Carmelite named Saint Simon Stock. The liturgical feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel is celebrated on 16 July.[1][2]

The solemn liturgical feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel was probably first celebrated in England in the later part of the 14th century. Its object was thanksgiving to Mary, the patroness of the Carmelite Order, for the benefits she had accorded to it through its difficult early years. The institution of the feast may have come in the wake of the vindication of their title "Brothers of the Blessed Virgin Mary" at Cambridge, England in 1374. The date chosen was 17 July; on the European mainland this date conflicted with the feast of St. Alexis, requiring a shift to 16 July, which remains the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel throughout the Catholic Church. The Latin poem "Flos Carmeli" (meaning "Flower of Carmel") first appears as the sequence for this Mass.[1]

or the title "Our Lady of Mount Carmel of Garabandal" since there is the image of the Lady of Garabandal with the Brown Scapular? Are you saying that you wish neither to be discussed, together, or connected, with that history, for some personal reason?

 

Yes this is it ! but if you remind me the main Dogma of Faith which our Lady of the Carmel herself remind it to us in Garabandal, I will be pleased to reconsider this thread as its messages related to Garabandal as well but any case this is my humble opinion only, de facto please advise, thank you again.

 

Well, here ya go....you can differentiate yourself on the devotion of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. It could just be that due to the following "muddying up" of this devotion by Vat II, Our Lady wished perhaps to have the original devotion emphasized as to its importance still and why then she appeared (at Garabandal) wearing that particular devotion's sacramental/scapular:

"Also associated with Our Lady of Carmel was a papal bull saying that there was a Sabbatine privilege associated with devotion to the saint; that is, that Until the late 1970s, the Catholic liturgy for that day expressed the scapular devotion. Vatican II resulted in scrutiny of the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, as well as that of Saint Simon Stock, because of the historical uncertainties about the origins. The liturgies were revised and, in the 21st century, neither, even in the Carmelite proper, makes reference to the scapular.[7] The Carmelite convent of Aylesford, England, was restored and a relic of Saint Simon Stock was placed there in 1951. The saint's feast is celebrated in the places dedicated to him.[6]

.....In Spain and other Spanish-speaking countries, there has been particular devotion to Our Lady of Mount Carmel, who has been adopted as a patron saint of several places, as she has been in other Catholic-majority countries. .......Veneration of the Virgen del Carmen (often also associated with the Stella Maris) is particularly strong in coastal towns of Spain.

Church Teaching:

A 1996 doctrinal statement approved by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments states that

"Devotion to Our Lady of Mount Carmel is bound to the history and spiritual values of the Order of the Brothers of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Mount Carmel and is expressed through the scapular. Thus, whoever receives the scapular becomes a member of the order and pledges him/herself to live according to its spirituality in accordance with the characteristics of his/her state in life."

According to the Church on the Brown Scapular:

"The scapular is a Marian habit or garment. It is both a sign and pledge. A sign of belonging to Mary; a pledge of her motherly protection, not only in this life but after death. As a sign, it is a conventional sign signifying three elements strictly joined: first, belonging to a religious family particularly devoted to Mary, especially dear to Mary, the Carmelite Order; second, consecration to Mary, devotion to and trust in her Immaculate Heart; third, an urge to become like Mary by imitating her virtues, above all her humility, chastity, and spirit of prayer."

.........Our Lady of Mount Carmel was seen in the apparitions of Cova da Iria in Fátima, Portugal, by Lúcia Santos and her co-visionary companions Jacinta and Francisco Marto and many others among the 70,000 witnesses of the extraordinary events during the Miracle of the Sun. She also appeared to Saint Simon Stock to whom she gave the Brown Scapular.[14] The Garabandal apparitions, in Spain, were reported to be images of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Mount Carmel."

 

I find the discussion on this thread both interesting and perplexing. The disagreement over whether or not there will be an intermediate period of peace between a definitive chastisement and a final chastisement, and the corollary issue of the timing of the Son of Perdition’s appearance, has become surprisingly heated. The trigger has revolved around the viability of private revelation and the mechanism to test its trustworthiness. I find myself leaning toward a GSWYL scenario, yet none of the above is of primary importance to me. Nor do I believe the amount of energy put into this topic worth the effort. Maybe you all are rightly asking, “Why bother join in then, Mario?” Bear with me one moment.

First, the vast majority of us believe we are in the midst of a Storm which is spiritual in nature and is assaulting the foundations of both Church and State. We may disagree when the climax of this Storm shall be reached, but the reality of the Storm is not questioned. Herein lies my perplexity. Should not the primary issue be how we are to live in the midst of this Storm so as to best serve our families and the souls which God has placed in our sphere of influence? What started as a variance in prophetic outlook has turned into an unfruitful duel with no end in sight. This might be interesting, serious, or even fun to some, but I believe it is a recipe cooked up by JoeJerk to create a tense, unproductive debate whose goal is the forever elusive last word.

I suggest we stop giving him the time of day (or night for that matter).

Fatima stated the following:

But, what we are discussing is not essential for salvation and that is our understanding and belief in prophecy, the endtimes, the Divine Will, the era of peace, the antichrist and false prophet and God's temporal kingdom on earth where his will shall be done as it is in heaven. Proper understanding of these will be helpful on our journey, especially if we enter into them and are deceived by the Antichrist as scripture attests he will be able to do , but are not essential in order to die in God's grace and enter heaven. I hope we can agree on this?

For me, charity, forbearance, and humility greatly outweigh "the proper understanding" God's timetable and/or sequence of events. I do not find the latter an essential ingredient to battle satan, at least in Paul's description of spiritual warfare:

Eph 6: 13 Therefore take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the equipment of the gospel of peace; 16 besides all these, taking the shield of faith, with which you can quench all the flaming darts of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 Pray at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints...

Love and peace to all!

Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!

 

Well said Mario.

 

07/27/07 My son, you must write these words and share them with my children. These words are especially important for those who are my faithful children throughout this, my earth. Many times, my children, you wonder: why are the events happening in your world, in the way in which they are taking place? Events seem random, chaotic. Creation seems out of balance. These are natural thoughts through a human understanding. But these are not my thoughts. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor your ways my way, saith the Lord (Isaias 55:8). My people, you need to learn to start thinking as I think or nothing transpiring on your earth will make any sense to you. How do you begin to understand and think as I your Father does? By learning to understand, think, live, and exist in my Divine will only and not your human will. You my children are limited in your understanding, because of your human condition of original sin.

The creation cannot comprehend the creator. Infinity is far above the finite. But, by accepting and learning to live in my will, you will begin in this life to understand your Father. Even my angels in heaven cannot understand me completely. This is one reason why Satan’s power is limited, because even he is my creation and is limited by my will. He just cannot bring himself to admit this. Pride was and will always be his downfall and so it will be your downfall if you allow pride to rule your heart, soul and mind.

My son, you might wonder, why am I giving you messages for the world. It is simple: It is my will. I am putting aside my glory and honor to talk with my people. I am trying to explain concepts to my people, so any person can understand. I want you to consider your family situation. You are a husband and a father. What grief you would experience, if you lost your wife and children to death. In this life, you would no longer be able to love them. They would be gone from your presence. Now, my son, I want you to apply the same situation to your Eternal Father. I am that Father and you are those children.

My son I created all my children. All my children are made in my image and likeness. What loss I experience, when my children are lost forever from my presence. Ponder on eternity. I am a Father and millions of my children are going to be separated from their Father forever. My sacred heart experiences tremendous pain over the loss of so many souls. I am describing myself in human terms for your comprehension. Again, think of the loss of your family and ponder on the loss of millions of my children forever. Forever deprived of their Father’s love and mercy. Forever tormented in the pool of fire along with their false father Satan. Why do you think your world is still in existence to this day? Because of your merciful Father. I will search and seek for everyone of my children. Just as you would seek for one of your lost children. This is truly my will to save my children. I do not want even one of my children to be lost forever.

Now, you begin to understand the events of your time. The events taking place are to bring my children home to me. It is to save as many souls from being separated from their Father as possible. If you truly understand my will, you will have peace no matter what happens. For you will recognize your Father’s will in all events. It is for the salvation of souls. Do not wish for this world to be cleansed from evil. Pray for the salvation of souls. You were once lost, but now are found. Without my will, you would be in the same position as my lost children. Therefore my children, you have no reason for pride or condemnation of your brothers and sisters. Do not judge the condition of another soul, for you cannot comprehend the depths of my mercy. Look after your own soul, thou proud and sinful man! You must show those who are lost how to find their Father. This is my will for my children. By your living, speaking and thinking in my will, you will bring souls to my son for salvation. For my son is the only way to return to your Father. Thus I have spoken. Thus it is my will. My word will not return to me void. Start thinking, as your Father comprehends. My word must be fulfilled. But the fulfillment of my word is the salvation of souls.

My son, as the events happen, be a beacon of light, joy and peace to those around you. These events are to wakeup my children for their eternal salvation. My people have been blinded by the world and its sinful desires. I must take away these worldly pleasures, so my children have an opportunity to return to their Father. Without these events, the pit of hell will continue to be populated by my children. These are mychildren, not his. Once you understand my will in these events, you shall have peace. Do not concern yourself and spend so much time trying to figure out the sequence of events. Every one of your predictions, have been wrong. Only I your Eternal Father is in control. Work for the salvation of souls and the will of your Father in heaven. Then you my faithful, will walk with me through the fire and enter into my kingdom and era of peace. The ungodly will perish. But, the fulfillment of my Divine will is accomplished. The salvation of souls will have been done. All of my children will have made a decision to return to me or reject me. Once all my children have been given an opportunity to return to their Eternal Father, this era will end and a new era will begin. This is the peace and joy awaiting my faithful. Live in my Divine will. Live in my son’s peace and joy. Bring souls to my son. My people return to your Father. Then my faithful you make your Father happy. I ask you a simple question: Have you made your eternal Father happy today? Are you leading souls to me, or turning souls away from me? If you are leading souls astray by your words, thoughts or actions, you truly do not love your Father or understand my will. These are the words of the Lord.

 

11/03/07 My people, your generation is no different than the people of my day. The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation and shall condemn it: because they did penance at the preaching of Jonas. And behold a greater than Jonas here. St. Matthew12:41. Behold my people a greater than Jonas is in your midst. The Son of God waits for you in every tabernacle in my Catholic churches worldwide. My people you have my commandments, my holy church, my signs and wonders, and my Blessed Mother’s miracles and messages. But many still reject my mercy. You have no excuse in my sight.You have been blessed with many graces and merits. Your generation will be judged. Many of you believe I am only a God of love and mercy. You teach justice is an out dated concept. But, I the Lord God do not change. It is you my people who have been deceived.Yes, I am a God of love and mercy. But, I am also a God of justice. You will be judged by the works and deeds you commit in this life. Accept my mercy today. All of your sins can be forgiven in this life by my precious blood. I repeat to you again: After death, it will be too late to accept my mercy.

Do not reject my mercy or your nation will be judged as my children of Israel were in the past. Your country has been blessed greatly. But, I can allow the blessings to be taken away. Continue to worship the false gods of greed and science, continue to allow abortion and continue to indulge in the sins of the flesh and you will reap what you have sown. Be not deceived: God is not mocked. For what things a man shall sow, those also shall he reap. For he that soweth in his flesh of the flesh also shall reap corruption. But he that soweth in the spirit shall reap life everlasting (Galatians 6:7,8). My people,what are you sowing today? Are you sowing to the flesh or are you sowing to the spirit? If you as a nation, continue to sow to the flesh and break my commandments, you will suffer chastisement as a nation. My blessings and protection will be removed from your country and you will be judged. Be like the people of Nineveh and repent. The people of Nineveh were given one chance and they repented. My children of the United States, you have been given many chances, but you still ignore my warnings. The date and time of your nation’s demise has been set. The time for repentance is short. If you do not heed my warnings, you will be judged severely. The ungodly and the lukewarm will not enter my kingdom without repentance and penance.

My people, you say: God bless America. How can you expect my blessings, when your nation is one of the leading exporters and producers of: pornography, violence and abortion in the world. Your government funds and supports abortion in other countries. Millions of my little ones do not have the opportunity to fulfill their mission. The blood of the innocents cries to heaven for vengeance. I will require of your nation the blood of my murdered little ones. Repent, for little time remains. I will forgive your sins and heal your land. All I ask is for my people of the United States to repent and turn from your wicked ways. The lukewarmness of my church has allowed these evils to befall your nation. I ask your clergy to repent of their sins. Remember, if your foundation is not built upon the rock Christ Jesus, your works will burn away in the fires of my purification. My church must once again stand up for the truth and be ready for persecution.

Your nation is ripe for the wine press of the wrath of God. I will allow the man of sin to take over your nation, if no repentance is done. Take heed my people to my warnings. I warn you today and I will warn you again, during the illumination of conscience. At that time you will know the truth. Reject my merciful warning and you will be seduced by the father of lies, Satan himself. Your nation will then be submitted to the great trial. But those of my chosen people who: trust in me 100%, obey my commandments, and are consecrated both to my sacred heart and my blessed Mother’s Immaculate Heart will be protected and gain entrance to my kingdom. For I the Lord prophesy to you again: After the warning, there will be only One, Holy, Catholic Church. All other denominations will know the truth. There will be no excuse for division. Those who reject my church will be rejecting the head of the church: Jesus Christ. Woe to those who live in those days and reject my mercy. Prepare yourselves my people, for the simplification of your lives, persecution and the day of the Lord. Many are called, but few are chosen. Strive to enter by the narrow gate: for many, I say to you, shall seek to enter and shall not be able.(Luke 13:24). It will be only by my graces and merits that you will enter into the seventh and eighth days of creation. My peace be with you. The Lord has spoken to his people.

 

09/25/07 (bold letters are my emphasis) www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org
My son, there is much fighting in my church regarding the consecration of Russia. Many older prophecies were given regarding a communist led war which resulted in the destruction of much of Europe, including the Vatican. Documents released in your media verify these war plans. But my people forget one important factor in this discussion: God. I alone govern the universe and the affairs of mankind. I even govern the affairs of hell. Nothing happens without my will being done. Do you even think one moment, I am going to give glory to Satan and man’s pride? Remember Isaias 42:8: I, the Lord: t his is my name. I will not give my glory to another, nor my praise to graven things.

My son, John Paul II consecrated the world to the Immaculate heart of Mary, as you already know. Do you not think my son, these consecrations bore no fruit? For I the Lord God Almighty creator of heaven and earth prophesy to you: The result of the consecration of the world to my son’s mother Mary had two effects. It interrupted and changed the plans of Masonic communistic forces and it gave the world an extended period of my mercy. Do you truly think a consecration to the Mother of Mercy would have no effect? It allowed more souls to enter my kingdom. Do not forget my primary purpose is the salvation of my children. If you remember this my son, world events will make sense to you. Look at events from the eyes of your Father in heaven, not with your human eyes and understanding.

My son at Fatima, my daughter Mary asked explicitly for the consecration of Russia by the Pope and the bishops of the world. This event has not taken place as asked by my daughter Mary. If it had my son, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary would have already taken place. You would already be living in the era of peace. It is evident there is no peace in your world. Only a blind man would make such a statement. My son, mankind has not responded to my mercy. Mankind has increasingly become more evil and sinful. A day will soon arrive which will cause my wrath to chastise my children. Again, I say these words not to frighten, but to wake up my children. If you live in my peace, there truly is nothing to fear. Again, only the ungodly and lukewarm need to fear.

My son, the Masonic communistic forces are again starting to rise in your world. The forces of Islamic terrorism, communism, and practical atheism are being used by Satan to cause another World War. For I the Lord prophesy to you again: If mankind refuses my mercy, another World War will be allowed and the man of sin will be allowed to chastise the ungodly and sinner. Read these words carefully. I am allowing these events because of my people rejecting my mercy. Where are the prayers, penances, and masses being offered in reverence for my honor and glory? Why do my people reject prayer and fasting to bring about my continual mercy on your world? Do you not see my hand in the weather changes and natural disasters occurring on your planet? Isaias 45:12, 18. I made the earth: and I created man upon it. My hand stretched forth the heavens: and I have commanded all their host. For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens, God himself that formed the earth and made it, the very maker thereof, who did not create it in vain, who formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is no other. Remember stop trying to figure out the mind and purposes of the Almighty. Seek not the things that are to high for thee, and search not into things above thy ability: but the things that God hath commanded, think on them always, and in many of his works be not curious. Ecclesiasticus 3:22. But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, for I am the Lord that exercise mercy and judgment and justice in the earth: for these things pleases me, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 9:24. What did my son command you to do above all other things? Love your God and your neighbor. Are you truly fulfilling these two commandments? If not, repent of your sins.

My son, while my people argue over the validity of the consecration of Russia, many souls are going to hell. Do not allow yourself to be caught in Satan’s trap. The consecration has not taken place. It will take place. The message of Fatima was primarily concerned with repentance and the salvation of souls. The consecration of Russia is a message addressed to the Pope and bishops of the world. Pray my Holy Spirit will give the Holy Father the strength and wisdom to overcome the forces fighting against him. My son, I am gong to tell you why the consecration of Russia has not yet taken place. My church was not purified of the evil forces hiding among the clergy. Remember the Pope and bishops of the world are required to make the consecration. In the past, there were to many Bishops who were rebellious against the Holy Father for the consecration to have taken place. My Holy Spirit has led the holy Father to purify my house. Once my church is purified and my house is in order, you will see the consecration of Russia done. As you have read, my son told Sister Lucy it would be done late.

Now Read Isaias 55:8 , 11. For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord. So shall my word be, which shall go forth from my mouth. It shall not return to me void, but it shall do whatsoever I please and shall prosper in the things for which I sent it. Do not presume in your pride to know the mind of God. Do not cause division among my people by arguing over the consecration of Russia. It is a deceptive trick of Satan to prevent my people from focusing on your mission: the salvation of souls. Again, I will repeat myself for you. Your mission is to lead souls to my son Jesus Christ for salvation, not cause souls to leave my church because of your proud and argumentative spirit. I the Lord will hold you accountable for your actions, words and thoughts, which cause another to stumble. The consecration will take place in my time, not yours or Satan’s. I receive no honor and glory from your pride but only from your humility. Be a part of my son’s army and my daughter Mary’s army. Fulfill your mission. Let those whose mission it is to work for the consecration of Russia, fulfill their mission. It is not your mission. Do not cause schism or division, but love and unity among my people. I repeat myself to stop the confusion among my people. If you do my will, I will protect and guide you no matter what takes place. For I am the same living God of the Bible who is your Father today and forever. I love you my people. Return to the Father ’s fold through the graces of my son Jesus Christ, the power of my Holy Spirit, and the intercession of my daughter Mary. These are words from Almighty God to my people. Amen.

 

6/27/07 www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org

...........Please read the next comments carefully. In my present church, there is much confusion regarding Vatican II. This is from Satan, not from me. Answer me a question: if the Holy Father calls an ecumenical council with all the bishops of the world and the Holy Spirit is guiding the church, how can that council be of Satan? It was not. My people do not understand the working of my Holy Spirit. Remember, I told you to be ware of false prophets who come to you in the clothing of sheep. Satan has caused schism in my church, by allowing false interpretations to abound concerning Vatican II. My words do not change. I am going to give you a clue to share with my people. Satan hates the doctrine of the mass and the doctrines concerning my Blessed Mother. These are the two areas he has been trying to destroy. The Vatican II Council reaffirmed both of these doctrines. This council was not convened by hell, but by my Holy Spirit. A council or a Pope who destroys and denies my mass and my Blessed Mother’s privileges is from hell. This is how you can recognize the abomination of desolation. A false prophet or anti pope will proclaim the protestant doctrine of the mass to be correct. This is the one teaching that will change. The rest of my churches teachings can stay the same. Satan knows how to deprive my children of everlasting life, deprive my children of my presence.

This is how the man of sin, the son of perdition will sit in the temple of God. Reference II Thessalonians 2:4-10. He will attempt to lead my people to deny my presence in the Eucharist and to teach the mass is only a symbol. This is Antichrist. This will bring the wrath of God on the children of disobedience. This will cause the unleashing of the bowls of divine justice. My sacrifice of the mass daily holds back my Father’s justice. Luke 18:8. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? Will I find any of my children, who I recognize with my life in them? Will there be faith left in my holy sacrifice? These are the questions which need to be pondered. My son, a false Christian church will be forced on the people. A gospel of prosperity and a make you feel good gospel will be preached. My churches can be filled with people, but the churches will be dead because I am not there. Without my presence in the churches, God does not dwell in the churches. Then, these sheep who hear my voice will be forced to worship in underground churches where I will be present. This truly is the abomination of desolation and antichrist. Then I will come with the brightness of my coming, destroy this false church, and restore my church according to my will.Then you will see an era of peace. A Eucharistic era of peace where I will reign in the hearts and mind of my people in the holy Eucharist. You must believe all these words I am teaching you and the teachings of my church or you will not enter my era of peace.Ponder these words or I may say to: I NEVER KNEW YOU. The words of the Lord. I bless you Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. AMEN.

 

09/04/07 P.M www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org

This is a message to clear up your confusion regarding the 3rd Secret of Fatima and the Second Vatican Council. This is an area causing division, fighting, and schism in my church. Sister Lucy had stated: The 3rd Secret of Fatima was to be released by 1960. Many traditionalist Catholics interpret this to mean the 3rd Secret is about the Second Vatican Council.This is a deception given by the Father of Lies – Satan. My Blessed Mother has revealed the essence of the 3rd Secret of Fatima through other apparitions. It deals with apostasy and loss of faith in the Catholic Church amongst other issues. These facts have been substantiated by priests and cardinals in my church. Even at Akita, Japan, my Blessed Mother warned of apostasy and cardinals, bishops and priests fighting against each other. Division is not from God, but from Satan. A council, called by the Holy Father and attended by the Bishops of the World, is not satanic. It was called by my Holy Spirit. Do my people think they know better than my spirit?

My vicar is the head of my church and is led by my Holy Spirit. Read Ecclesiasticus 3:22. Seek not the things that are too high for thee,and search not into things above thy ability, but the things which God hath commanded thee, think on them always and in many of his words be not curious. My people need to follow these words. Stop trying to be the Pope and tell him how to lead my church. You have not been given the mission to be Pope. If you cause rebellion, schism and rebellion against my true Popes, you are in rebellion against myself, Jesus Christ.

The things which God has commanded thee are to be in obedience to His church, and to obey His church’s teachings and commandments. In my church, many voices not of me, are seeking your attention. These voices can be from priests, bishops, religious and laymen. Any voice, which leads you to schism against my son the Pope, do not listen to them. These voices are led by their own pride, and influenced by the father of lies – Satan. For Satan knows if he can cause division in my church, many souls will be lost forever to hell. As you have read, for many years Masonic and communistic forces have tried to destroy my church. Recently, in your news, masons in Mexico and Italy are openly trying to persecute my church. In your country, the 1960’s brought in a culture of sin and relativism. This brought about a rejection of God and his commandments. This is the lie and the deception, which has caused the problems in your world and my church. It is the cry of Satan: I will not serve.

You cannot blame the Second Vatican Council for the increase in the sins of the flesh: homosexuality, abortion, murder, and all the sins of your age. You cannot blame the Second Vatican Council for the decrease invocations, lack of reverence and attendance at the Holy Mass. The blame is my people compromising with the world, rebelling against the Holy Father and believing the lies, deception, and the words of Satan. The problems of today had their beginnings many years prior to the 1960’s. This decade brought the problems into the open. Masonry, in all its diabolical forms, infiltrated my church many years prior to the Second Vatican Council. During those turbulent years, masons were elevated top positions of authority in my church. Those Masonic forces were unleashed from the pit of hell and caused the problems in your world today. My people, rejection of God establishes the reign of Satan in your midst. Read my word. All of these events were prophesied and are being fulfilled before your eyes. My word must be fulfilled. Satan is clever. He is much more intelligent than you. He is using Vatican II as a deceptive lie to hide the real cause for the division in my church. The real cause for the division is the pride of mankind, the rejection of God, and many in my church making compromises with Satan. He knows if the real truth was revealed, the church would be unified, and he would be defeated. This present and continuing purification is exposing the lies and deception of Satan. My church will be as I want it: humble, persecuted, and a light to the world. It will once again follow in my footsteps to Calvary, and to a glorious resurrection. To repeat, the Second Vatican Council is not the cause of the problems in my church. The cause is the pride of my people who compromise with the demon. Those who cause division and schism in my church do not listen or follow them. For heresy can occur from many different directions. Those who deny my church’s teachings,whether labeled liberals or traditionalists, are promoting heresy. Pray for these souls. My people, The Holy Father is correcting these errors.

If you would follow his guidance, you will not fall into schism and division. He has clearly defined the substance of the Holy Mass and the true meaning of my church. Continue fighting the Holy Father and you are fighting against God. The day will come when a false antipope will try and lead my church. If you are in a state of rebellion against my church now, will you even recognize a false pope? Remember, my sheep hear my voice, and I know them and they follow me. Can you hear my voice if you are in rebellion, causing division in my church? You cannot if your pride is a stumbling block in your life to my graces. Repent of your sins and implore my mercy. These words apply to bishops, priests, religious and laypeople. No one is excluded. You are either with me or against me. You cannot be a servant in my kingdom and the kingdom of Satan with your pride at the same time. Repent today. Tomorrow will be too late. Judgment is already beginning in the house of God, and expanding to the ungodly. Do not sit on the fence any longer. You want my blessing. Be submissive to my church and its teaching and I will bless you. If you refuse to listen to my warnings, you could be deceived and spend eternity in hell. Hell is filled with bishops, priests and religious who refused to be obedient to my church. For my word proclaims, I Kings 15:22b-23a. For obedience is better than sacrifices: and to hearken rather than to offer the fat of rams. Because, it is like the sin of witchcraft, to rebel: and like the crime of idolatry to refuse to obey. Read Apocalypse 22:15. Without are dogs and sorcerers and unchaste and murderers and servers of idols and every one that loveth and maketh a lie. You cannot enter my kingdom with these sins on your soul. Without true repentance, you will spend eternity in hell. My people do not give into the lies and deception of Satan.Focus on myself, Jesus Christ only, and let me lead you into the era of peace and life everlasting. These are the words of the Lord.

 

5-31-07 A.M.
My son, write these words. I repeat myself, for I am a God of mercy and forgiveness. Be not deceived. God is not mocked. I am your creator, and I will not be mocked much longer by my people. Take seriously the words of my Blessed Mother, time is extremely short. You mock me, when you deny my presence in my churches. You mock me, when you engage in mortal sin. You mock me, when you take Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin. You mock me, when mankind attempts to change my creation in his own image and likeness. I created all my children in my own image and likeness according to my plan, not man’s or Satan’s.You mock me, when you deny my existence. You mock me, when you do your own will, and not my will, for your life. You mock me, through murder, abortion, and the many forms of violence in my world.You mock me when you engage in the sins of the flesh.You mock me, when you show approval of sin, even if you do not commit the actual sin. You mock me, when you try and change my institution of marriage, allowing homosexuality, divorce, and fornication to rule your life. You mock me, when you do not honor my Blessed Mother as your Mother. You mock me when you try and change my church and my commandments. You mock me when you live as if sin is irrelevant, and you are in charge of your own destiny and life. You mock me with the lukewarmness in my churches. You mock me in many other ways. But you mock me most when you reject my love and mercy. It is this final rejection of me that will cast you into eternal punishment. I am a God of mercy, but I am also a God of justice. Open your eyes! Are you so deceived and blind that you cannot see the signs around you? I will again shake the heavens and earth. My people must repent and change their wicked ways or you will face my justice. If you continue to reap to the flesh, you could reap forever your soul in eternal punishment with Satan and his fallen angels. If you accept my mercy and forgiveness, I will pardon your sins, and you could spend eternity with your Lord and God in eternal bliss. The choice is yours; I will not be mocked much longer. Amen.

 

4-07
I Peter 4:17 The Lord will judge his people: For the time is, that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God? What is the house of God? Today it is the church the new Israel. To understand this better, briefly study the nation of Israel. The children of Israel were God’s chosen people. Time after time God warned his people through the prophets. His people rejected the prophets and God judged his people. Now all these things happened to them in figure: and they are written for our correction, upon whom the ends of the world are come (I Corinthians 10:11). Jesus Christ, the Messiah, was promised to the children of Israel. Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye not. But go ye rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 10:5-6). And he answering, said: I was not sent but to the sheep that are lost of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24). But Israel rejected Christ. He came unto his own and his own received him not (John 1:11). Read the parable of the husbandmen, Luke 20:9-20. Note verse 16: He will come, and will destroy these husbandmen, and will give the vineyard to others. What was the result of the Jews rejecting Christ? First, the vineyard was given to the church, which is the new Israel. Second, God judged his people. Read Luke 21:20-24 and Luke 23:28-30. Jesus prophesied the destruction of the temple and the dispersion of the Jewish nation for rejecting the Son of God. This was fulfilled with the fall of Jerusalem in 70A.D. under the Roman General Titus.

In your world today, the Church is the nation or the Kingdom of God. But many in the church are following the ways of the Jewish people. Many Catholics are rejecting Christ today by rejecting his Word and the teachings of His Church. This leads to the judgment of God on his people. Carefully read Luke 19:42-44. If thou also hadst known, and that in this thy day, the things that are to thy peace: but now they are hidden from thy eyes. For the days shall come upon thee: and thy enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and straiten thee on every side. And beat thee flat to the ground, and thy children who are in thee: and they shall not leave in thee a stone upon a stone: because thou hast not known the time of thy visitation.

My people, you do not know the day of your visitation. You do not see the signs all around you. Those who profess to be my people, do not recognize the purification to come upon the household of faith. Why are your eyes blind? The truth has been given to you in my word and in my church. Many of you act and think you know better than my pope, your Holy Father. When you act this way, you are telling me, Jesus Christ, you know more than me. Confusion and deception are rampant in my church. This is not of me but of my and your enemy Satan. My laws and commandments do not change. I am the same yesterday, today, and forever. Those who disagree with the Holy Father on how the church should be run, whether on the extreme traditional side or the liberal side, need to repent and do penance, for you are causing division and schism in my house. You must be in union with the Holy Father, bishops and priests who follow me. If you are not, you are not in union with me. Those bishops and priests, who teach another doctrine, do not follow them, for I will judge my house, not you. It is important for my people to understand that I, Jesus, am present body, blood, soul and divinity in the mass. The Holy Father is giving you a document on this. The Holy Spirit of God is guiding him to teach you on the doctrine of the mass in this age of confusion. Remember my words to St. Peter and my apostles:Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth, it shall be bound in heaven. Whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

He that is not with me, is against me and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth (Matthew 12:30). Again, if you speak against my church and its teachings, you are against me. Be not deceived. God is not mocked. Galatians 6:7. I will not be mocked. My church is going to be purified of its sin and unbelief. What will be left is a glorious church without spot or wrinkle. And there shall be in all the earth, saith the Lord, two parts in it shall be scattered, and shall perish, but the third part shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined: and I will try them as gold is tried. They shall call on my name, and I will hear them. I will say: Thou art my people: And they shall say: The Lord is my God (Zacharias 13:8-9).

My people, these words apply to my church, not the world. Do not think the purification to come is only for sinners. It is for my church. My house will again become a house of prayer and a light to all the nations. I have sent signs and wonders to my people. My Blessed Mother has come repeatedly to my people warning you to repent and change your ways. If you pray and discern, most of my messengers are sending messages to the household of faith. The church is my light to the world. The light my church needs to be purified. The coming events in your world are to purify my church and the world of sin. Repent on your knees, and implore my mercy, my people.

If I had not come, and spoken to them, they would not have sin: but now they have no excuse for their sin (John 15:22). My people, you have no excuse for your sin. You have my word, my church, signs and wonders and my messengers. Are you willing to be purified, to go through the fire and emerge as part of my remnant church? If you say no, you will not survive the days ahead. The evil and deception will worsen and without my light you will not be able to discern. Please, my people, repent while the day of mercy is still here, for the day of justice will come as a thief in the night. Remember, be not deceived, I will not be mocked. Accept my admonitions, my Blessed Mother’s messages, my Holy Pope’s teachings and the teachings of my church, or you risk on the day of judgment the following sentence: "Depart from me, I never knew you"! For those of you in sanctifying grace, be not afraid, for you will go through the fires of purification and I will be your God, and you will be my people. The Lord will judge his people. The Word of the Lord.

 

08/30/07 My son write these words as I give them to you. Read Matthew 6:15. But if you will not forgive men, neither will your Father forgive you your offenses. Matthew 7:1-2. Judge not, that you may not be judged. For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again. I John 3:8. For this purpose the Son of God appeared, that he might destroy the works of the devil. My son, who made you a judge over mankind? Are you without sin? If so, cast the first stone. I am your judge, but yet I still have mercy on you and all my people everyday. Truly, you do not want myself to judge you as you judge others. For you would be cast into hell. Your past sins were an abomination in my sight. But I still had mercy on your soul. Today, when you judge others, you are scorning my mercy. You are telling me that you truly are worthy of my mercy and others’ are not. You proud and sinful man! Repent of your pride and learn humility. I have been merciful to you. All sin in my sight is an abomination. Even if you were without sin, you are still completely dependent on me. Ponder my blessed mother and myself. Both of us did not sin, but yet we were both humble. If you are judgmental, you are declaring to me that you are better than God. I will truly cast down all pride. For no flesh will glory in my sight. These words apply to many who call on my name.

Remember, without my mercy and humility, you could be in a worse state than those you judge. Many souls are in hell for far less offenses than you have committed. Implore my mercy, be merciful, or your judgment will be severe. As events escalate, many of my people will be without hope and in despair. You are needed to be a beacon of hope to them. Be merciful and I will continue to be merciful to you. Continue to be judgmental and you will be cast into outer darkness with the hypocrites. Hypocrisy and unmerciful souls have no place in my kingdom. It is time my people stop labeling sinners as drunkards, homosexuals and murderers. It is time to see these souls as truly lost and in need of my mercy. Truly without mercy, these souls will be cast into eternal darkness and punishment. I have destroyed the works of Satan in your life and in the lives of my faithful. Pray to my Spirit to lead and guide you on how to speak to sinners. Show mercy to lost souls and I will show mercy to your soul. The sin of homosexuality will cast you into hell, but so will lying and hating your neighbor. I came to set my people free from the bondage of sin and death. If you are judgmental and unmerciful to lost souls, you may be the stumbling block causing them eternal damnation. Then you will be severely judged for causing their souls to be lost forever.You must love the sinner, but hate the sin. You cannot approve of their sin, but you can show them mercy, as I have showed you mercy. I need disciples of mercy. I am giving you a mission to be a disciple of mercy to this sinful world. This is the highest of missions. For, it is my mission to save and to seek those souls who are lost. For without me you can do nothing. All of my faithful need to ponder on these words and become disciples of my mercy. Be merciful to others and I will continue to be merciful to you. These are the words from Jesus Christ to his faithful. Amen.

 

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10/21/06 A.M. Today I went to confession and I received a message from Jesus. John 6:37 “All that the Father giveth to me shall come to me: and him that cometh to me, I will not cast out.”John 6:39” Now this is the will of the Father who sent me: that of all that he hath given me, I should lose nothing; but should raise it up again in the last day.” I am your savior. I have forgiven your sins. Everything you need I have given you. WHEN YOU CONSECRATE YOURSELF TO ME DAILY, I AM PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND YOU FROM THE ATTACK OF SATAN. Pray my Blessed mother’s rosary, wear the scapular, use holy water and wear the blessed medals especially the crucifix blessed by Father. These medals were given to help protect you and remind you of my presence. Continue to go to confession and receive holy communion. In the Eucharist, you are receiving me and also the Holy Trinity, because we are one Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I will protect you and your family in the future, because I am Jesus your creator and your savior, as long as you remain in sanctifying grace. Your past is forgiven.

Read Philippians 4:13 “Forgetting the things that are behind and stretching forth myself to those that are before.” Your past sins are forgiven, I will not remember them. Why should you? Satan throws doubt in your mind, I do not. Please remember to say Jesus I trust in you. You need to learn to trust in me more. When you trust in me, all things are possible with God. I will always be there for you. Stay with reading my word and following the teachings of the church I led you to the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Remember, I never say goodbye to you, because if my spirit lives in you, then you are always in constant communication with me. Finally, remember St Paul. He persecuted and killed Christians, yet I used him and he moved forward letting the past go. All those in your past let me take care of them.

Your goal is to learn to live each day following me and living in my divine will. Remember from a previous message, no man who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God (Luke 9:62). Remember I love, died for you and will be with you always even until the end of the age. You have a mission to fulfill for me. That is why you are still alive. I knew one day you would repent from your wicked ways. That is why your world is still in the hour of mercy, because I want no man or woman to perish, but all to come to repentance. The events of the future will come in my time and not yours. Look at the signs around you, the hour is short, shorter than you think. Everything I am doing or allowing is for the salvation of your souls. This should be your primary importance. Let go of the world. It will soon pass away. Live in my peace, then no events, no matter how terrible they seem to you will bother you. Remember all power is given unto me in heaven and earth. I, Jesus Christ, the Son of God have overcome the world. WITH THIS PROMISE TO YOU, WHY DO YOU DOUBT ME AND NOT TRUST IN ME. WITH ME YOU NEED NO ONE ELSE. IT GRIEVES MY SACRED HEART WHEN YOU DO NOT TRUST IN ME.

I must repeat myself for your benefit. Trust in the Lord and all things will work out for you according to my plan. Remember my servant Job how he lost all things but he was still faithful to me. Today you have many more graces given to you than my servant Job did. SO WHY DO YOU FEAR, I AM WITH YOU. Take these words to heart. Pray to my mother. You have doubts about her. Remember her goal is to lead all men to me her son. Thank your heavenly Father for his gifts to you: my Blessed Mother and myself his only son who died for your sins and lives with you by the power of the Holy Spirit. YOU WILL SEE THE WARNING AND WHEN IT HAPPENS ALL WILL KNOW WHO I AM. NO EXCUSES CAN ANY LONGER BE GIVEN THAT MANKIND DOES NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. Be filled with the spirit. Harden not your hearts and prepare for the day of the Lord. The day of mankind's’ deliverance from the deception of this age. Go in peace and remember my peace is with you and all my faithful everyday. This is a special message for you today. Learn to live in faith my faithful remnant. I love you. Jesus Christ, your friend, Lord and savior. Amen Fiat.