Its dawned on me that Pope John Paul II call for a new evangalisation and it is actually happening and the main fuel behind it is the coup within the vatican. Its really spuring people on to rediscover the depths of the faith and proclaim it from one end of the earth to the other through the internet. I think its still the very vocal minority in the church but its starting to get into a rolling boil now, church leaders must be feeling it parish priests must be becoming aware of it and it cant be long before it starts spilling over into the larger church. Younger Catholics and the silver surfers who are internet savy and have any interest in the faith must be all too aware and i feel a groundswell that the modernist bishops and priests will not be able to stem the tide of once it errupts into the parishes. They must be absolutly terrified. I know by their extreme reaction to me and my actions with my parish(es) within my diocese just how easily the armour can be shaken a slight tap here and there and the "ting" reverberates across the whole suit. Keeping people ignorant is their only defence against the new evangalisation but there is no way they can keep the rising tide back as it is being driven on by the holy spirit... So hang in there everyone its going to get very bumpy soon enough, this is why we were born in this time in these circumstances.... God must have great faith in us!! Let us make sure we continue to have great faith in him. But yeah i have just realised this whole resistance movement within minority of the faithfull is what St. JPII's called the new evangalisation.
Hi Mea Kulpa. I believe you are onto something. The internet is a powerful tool. It can be used for good or evil. When used for good it is great. There’s no getting away from it, if it doesn’t involve computers or the internet then anyone under 40 isn’t interested. Everything is screen based now whether we like it or not. The enemies of Christ and His Church are masters of this medium and use it to attack all that is holy so we must up our game and challenge their lies, distortions and evil agendas on the World Wide Web. What reaction have you experienced to evangelisation in your parish? Have people been supportive?
It was divided although due to it being a latin mass parish there were more who were supportive than opposed. The priest(s) and bishop were very opposed. Although the material i was passing out was of a nature that questioned the legitimacy of pope francis and questioned if two churches co existed in the same sphere the true church and the anti church. The material about francis was from a bishop and the antichurch a priest. It did not go down well the clergy at all. I would love to see an internet based secular orientated catholic tv network with sports, movies, documentries, news, music and general entertainment. Setup to compete with the big boys funded by the church and free to air in order to undermine the big secular anticatholic tv networks draw in the viewers with free access to live sport movies etc However the way the church is these days it would be just as bad as the secular media
I don't think it is a good idea to question the legitimacy of the Papacy of Pope Francis for various reasons. One of which is it gives these people a chance , a weapon to beat you with. They will simply hone in on this and ignore whatever other good things you are trying to say. Why hand them this weapon? To put it another way it is a dialectical cul de sac Also I do not believe God will bless such an enterprise and without God's' Blessing everything else is vain. But apart from this, at this time it is good to ask many, many questions about what is going on. However as Our Lady has indicated our first calling is to convert ourselves, to become Great Saints and so convert the world. This journey inward towards God automatically results in the jounrney outward to help convert others. As the old Chinese Missionary prayer goes, "Lord let me convert the whole world, beginning with myself'.
When I was young the one thing I was very sure of was that I would never loose the Faith; the whole World could loose their Faith but I never would. Indeed I has some very good reasons for such a strong belief. I was a daily mass goer from a very young age with a very deep Devotion to Our Blessed Lady, a wonderful Spiritual Director and my Catholic Faith meant everything to me. Along with this from a very,very young age I had certian special mystical graces which permitted me to see things beyond the Veil. I could and still can see things from Heaven, Hell and Purgatory which others could not . Yet when we pray the, 'Our Father', it is no accident that we pray , 'lead us not into temptiaton'. For when my own hour of trial came my whole spiritual life collapsed like a box of cards. My father and elder brother were imprisoned without trial, the war came and I gave way to hatred. Shortly after this my Faith went for as St John tells us, 'Anyone who says they love God and hates his brother is a liar and the Truth is not in him'. I relaise now something I did not when I was young , true Faith is less a rock that a flowing river. it is all about the Holy Spirit sweeping us along, it is all about God's grace rather than our own efforts. It is all about being so little that God can pick us up in our arms and carry us. I think this is why most souls are being lost at the moment. The Hour of Trial has come , the testing and like me back then they are falling. So that, 'The hiddent thoughts of many might be revealed' They are being tried like, 'Gold in the Furnace' and are being found wanting. That which is hidden is being revealed. I think we are only at the very very beginning of this furnace and at the end of it we shall discover that as Jesus Himself said, "Many are called but few are chosen'.
I personally didnt question the legitimacy it was bishop garcida i was simply making the article available to the faithfull same with the fr linus clovis' antichurch article thst was on lifesitenews
The bishop has gone even further since then now saying he is quite sure pope francis' pontificate is not legitimate according to U.D.G and even says that the cardinals appointed by francis are also not valid and that the cardinals that conspired to elect francis are automatically excommunicated. Personally i think he probably right but recognise that i have no authority to determin that
It seems to me that the Bishop is much more plugged into what is happening in the Church and with other clergy than the majority of us could be. I don't think his opinions are any more shocking than those of Father Martin's were TBH.
Think fr martin's revelations were probably more shocking at the time and have made recent revelations less shocking than they should be. When i read the article on the bishops website everything he wrote about matched everything i had looked into. In my opinion based on a number of different avenues and all that i have read there is probably no way francis is a valid pope and i firmly believe that probably a "progresive" coup took place within the vatican orchastrated by disedent clergy, but instigated and supported by major left wing secular forces. But i am only basing that on information i have read i stress i have no first hand knowledge other than the accounts of cardinals and leaked emails
If we start going round saying Pope Francis is not legit the first thing folks will do is reach for the , 'Off' switch.' . If the Cardinal Electors wished to do this it is up to them. But basically by suggesting such a thing you hand people a stick to beat you with. They will simply brand you as a schismatic. What's the point? It's a bird that simply won't fly. This is exactly the path that the enemies of the Faith would hope we might take.
Ahhh, i understand what you are saying but should we worry about that.. its kind of dishonest and decietfull in a way. Would it not be better to tell it how you see it and let the chips fall as they may. We are after all not called to trick people or if u prefer soften or tone down the message so its more palatable i see that as what the good intentioned liberal churchmen are doing but rather we are called to boldly proclaim the message honestly with our yes' being yes' and our no's being no's
This is a baby step away from Sedevacantism. Which answers nothing. My presumption is that Francis is a valid Pope, but theologically messed up. If he is so messed up that he's later shown to have been invalid, let history judge that. Not us. Otherwise, man, we go down a weird, wandery road.
You are right its not far from it yet my position is still a million miles away or hopefully a few years yet. As from my own research i think the "catholic spring" podesta emails along with the freezing of vatican bank transactions the actions of saint gallen mafia, the popes butler, sex abuse scandel c.i.a and n.s.a survailence papal death threats viewed in light of the final address of pope benedict and bishop gainsweins explaination of pope benedicts "expanded papacy" leads me to believe the true office that is the spiritual office the "munis" even if he no longer has the temporal office (active) of papacy still resides with benedict xvi. I therefore lean towards the resignation of benedict xvi not being entirely being according to his own volition and will and therefore invalid. The conclave and election of francis as invalid and conclude that benedict xvi remains the true pope and francis either with or without benedicts approval is acting as an anti pope. My thinking on this is reaffirmed by multiple prophecies and messages from heaven. I am aware that if i am wrong then i am in schism with the supreme pontiff but if i do not follow what i think and accept pope francis as true pope and he is not then i would also in schism with the true pontiff pope benedict xvi and what is more would be in a worse position as i would of ignored my conscience on the matter
In a real sense I don't think it matters if the Papal Election was fixed or not. It reminds me of a football match were everyone knows there has been a foul but the referee thinks there has not been. So in a real sense it does not matter what everyone else thinks , it is up to the referee to make the decision. We may not like it but that's just the way things are. In the case of the Catholic Church the referees are the Cardinals. Not one, not one single Cardinal , who are the referees has called, 'Foul' Not one, not at any time, even the Dubia Cardinals. So we as members of the crowd can call foul as many times as we like it just won't get us anywhere. I think there was a similiar situation in the USA Political Arena a while back, in the State of Florida where there was some pretty clear evidence of voting irregualrity. The rest of the country could call, 'Foul', as much as they liked but unless the relevant authorities in Washington called, 'Foul', it pretty well didn't matter if the rest of the country shouted till they turned blue in the face. So with the Church. We would like people banging our heads off a brick wall getting involved in shouting, 'Foul', on this stuff. It is the path to nowhere. We have to be a little pragmatic with this stuff. There is nothing spiritually wrong with common sense. You can cry , 'Foul', on this till you are blue in the face and no one is ever going to pay you never no mind. In fact you will simply alienate the very folk you are trying to win over.
It would confuse and weird out the wisest of men, Mea. You may be right. But it is vital to not let our assumptions, hunches, or feelings get mistaken for God's leading. Just hang on. We can accept Francis as a valid Pope and just hang in there and pray for him. And charitably tune out almost everything he says.
I think the Bishop is spot on. It is always when otherwise good men and women stand by in apathy that evil rises unchecked and commits unspeakable crimes. It counts on this.
