Too funny: (you can listen to the voicemail) BOOM! White House Voicemail Trolls Dems: ‘We Can’t Take Your Call Right Now Because Congressional Dems Are Holding Funding Hostage’ (AUDIO) The voicemail says, “Thank you for calling the White House. Unfortunately we cannot answer your call today because Congressional Democrats are holding government funding including for our troops and other national security priorities hostage to an unrelated immigration debate.” http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ressional-dems-holding-funding-hostage-audio/
I realize that that was meant as sarcasm, Richard, but I prefer to address it seriously - when the antichrist does arrive, whether he's Donald Trump or some other world leader, it will not be an act of apostasy to live in the country which he rules or to pay taxes to him - Jesus taught that is the right of an earthly leader to exact taxes. The Scriptures plainly state that the act of apostasy will be to support the Antichrist by taking his "mark". So far, we can make educated guesses but cannot state with certainty that Trump or Obama or any other leader actually IS the Antichrist or the Man of Lawlessness, and we do not know for sure what that mark will be, but rest assured, by the time those things are revealed, a lot of supposedly religious people will be fooled, because they will have long ago seared their consciences by repeatedly choosing the politics and mammon of this world over the Way of Christ, which is Love: 2 Thessolonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, 12 so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
I'd like to, but when an attempt at honest discussion is met with sarcasm and insults, I have to question the motivation, not to mention the spiritual allegience, of the person I'm talking to. The mark of the Holy Spirit is love and forbearance, not snarkiness and sarcasm.
In contrast to the notion put forth on this forum by a Gary Johnson supporter that Trump is the Antichrist, here is what the early Church fathers and writers had to say on the matter. Somehow, I find them a wee bit more convincing: St. John Chrysostom: “Antichrist will be possessed by Satan and be the illegitimate son of a Jewish woman from the East. This world will be faithless and degenerate after the birth of Anti-Christ” St. John Damascene: “One should know that the antichrist must come . Antichrist to be sure is everyone who does not confess that the Son of God came in the flesh is perfect God and became perfect man while at the same time He was God. In a peculiar and special sense however he who is to come at the consummation of the world is Antichrist. So it is first necessary for the Gospel to have been preached to all the gentiles as the Lord said, and then he shall come unto conviction of the impious Jews. For the Lord said to them: I am come in the name of the father and you receive me not: If another shall come in his own name, him you will receive. And the apostle: “because they receive not the love of the truth that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: that all may be judged who have not believed the truth but have consented to iniquity. Hence the Jews did not receive the Lord Jesus Christ and God, although He was the Son of God, but the deceiver who says he is God they will receive. For that he will call himself God, the angel who taught Daniel thus declares: “he will make no account of the gods of his Fathers”. And the Apostle: “Let no man deceive you by any means; for unless there comes a revolt first and the son of perdition, who opposeth and is lifted up above all that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God” He says ---not however in ours but in the former one that of the Jews, for he will not come to us but to the Jews (initially)—not for the sake of Christ and Christ’s for which reason alone, he is also called Antichrist. The gospel, then, must first be preached in all nations ‘and then that wicked one shall be revealed: whose coming is according to the working of Satan, in all power and signs and lying wonders, in all seduction of inquity to them that perish: who the Lord shall kill with the words of His mouth and the coming of His brightness’ Thus the devil does not himself become man after the incarnation of the Lord –God forbid! --! But a man is born of fornication and receives into himself the whole operation of Satan, for God permits the devil to inhabit him for He (God) foresees the future perversity of his will. So he is born of fornication as we said and is brought up unnoticed: but all of a sudden he rises up, revolts and rules. During the first part of his reign – of his tyranny rather – he plays more the part of sanctity; but when he gains complete control, he persecutes the Church of God and reveals all his wickedness. “And he shall come in signs and lying wonders” – sham ones and not real – and he shall seduce those whose intention rests on a rotten and unstable foundation and make them abandon the living God., ‘in as much as to scandalize (if possible) even the elect.’ And Enock and Elias the Thesbite will be sent and they shall ‘turn the heart of the fathers to the children’ that is to say, turn the synagogue to our Lord Jesus Christ and the preaching of the apostles. And they will be destroyed by him. Then the Lord will come from heaven in the same way that the holy apostles saw Him going into Heaven, perfect God and perfect man, with glory and power; and he shall destroy the man of iniquity, the son of perdition, with the spirit of His mouth. So let no one expect the Lord to come from the earth but from Heaven, as He Himself has positively assured us.” St. Methodius of Olympus: “He will be born in Chorazaim, nourished in Bethsaida, and reign in Capharnaum. Chorazim will rejoice because he was born in her, and Capharnaum because he will have reigned in her. For this reason in the Third Gospel the Lord gave the following statement: ‘Woe to you, Chorazaim, woe to you Bethsaida, woe to you Capharnaum --- if you have risen up to heaven, you will descend to hell’[Luke 10:13, 15]...The prophecy of David which says, ‘In the last days Ethiopia will stretch out her hand to God’[Psalm 67:32] will be fulfilled in that these last men who stretch out their hands to God are from the seed of Chuseth, the daughter of Phol, king of Ethiopia. When the Cross has been lifted up on high to heaven, the King of the Romans will directly give up his spirit. Then every principality and power will be destroyed that the Son of Perdition may manifest... When the Son of Perdition appears, he will be of the tribe of Dan, according to the prophecy of Jacob. This enemy of religion will use a diabolic art to produce many false miracles, such as causing the blind to see, the lame to walk, and the deaf to hear. Those possessed with demons will be exorcised. He will deceive many and, if he could, as our Lord has said, even the faithful elect. Even the Antichrist will enter Jerusalem, where he will enthrone himself in the temple as a god (even though he will be an ordinary man of the tribe of Dan to which Judas Iscariot also belonged). In those days, the Antichrist will bring about many tribulation; but God will not allow those redeemed by the divine blood to be deceived. For that reason, he will send his two servants, Enoch and Elias, who will declare the prodigies of the Antichrist to be false, and will denounce him as an impostor. After the death and ruin of many, he will leave the Temple in confusion; and many of his followers will forsake him to join the company of the righteous. The seducer, upon seeing himself reproached and scorned, will become enraged and will put to death those saints of God. It is then that there will appear the sign of the Son of Man, and he will come upon the clouds of heaven.” Sounds a lot like Donald J. Trump to me, right? Not.
Beauty and truth is, sometimes at least, in the eyes of the beholder. Now then, to offer some clarification for the sake of incorporating a spiritual work of mercy...you can guess which one since we don't wish to seem .... your AC is arriving waaaay ahead of time. Won't be on the scene until after the Warning for the sake of giving everyone the opportunity of knowing the truth about themselves in the eyes of God before given the choice of just whom they will finally decide to go with. Otherwise there would not be the final act of Mercy....offering to those who may never have been exposed to the good the opportunity to know it through that Unfathomable Mercy before the testing. If I may....for my own clarification for my own sake....just what is, to your mind only of course, "spiritual allegiance"???
THE COMING 25TH AMENDMENT PLAY TO TAKE DOWN TRUMP The Establishment is in an uproar. Dirty trick after dirty trick has failed them. They were so sure Hillary would win! They were so sure they could control the narrative! They were absolutely positive that they would pull the levers of the Deep State and unseat Donald Trump with a relentless campaign of lawfare (warfare by lawyers). President Trump has been a step ahead of them every time, so their Plan A – a recount followed by an attempted hijacking of the Electoral College failed, and their Plan B – “Deep State Soft Coup” is failing spectacularly. The failure to find any evidence whatsoever of Russian collusion means that Plan B has been a major dud. While special counsel Robert Mueller is still on course to bring some process oriented charge against the President such as perjury or obstruction of justice, the exposure of his entire inquiry as a partisan witch-hunt makes his success in reversing the results of the last presidential election unlikely. As Pat Buchanan has pointed out, unlike Richard Nixon, Donald Trump will not go quietly. That leaves them only a couple of plans left and each is more desperate and futile than the prior attempt. Plan C is clearly an attempt to unseat President Trump with histrionics of the POTUS being mentally unsound. A year ago, we warned you, gentle reader, that the Left would never accept Donald J. Trump as their President, and that they would do literally anything within their power to overthrow his 2016 election win. We coined the term, Leftist Spasm, to denote the involuntary and knee-jerk appearance of their dismay. The Left is resilient and persistent, so their next plan, Plan C – “25th Amendment Solution” is now under full swing. Harpies in the media are jumping on every tweet, slip of the tongue, and unorthodox method as proof positive that the President has become unhinged. The mainstream media chorus that began with CNN’s Don Lemon, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, certified nut- job Keith Olbermann, and first promulgated by Senators Robert Corker and Jeff Flake that Trump is mentally unbalanced picked up speed with the publication Author Michael Wolfe’s fictional book, “ Fire and Fury”. Incredibly we now know that it was quisling Steve Bannon who let this hyena Wolfe into the Trump White House. It is essential to understand that this is the necessary backdrop for the Washington elite’s plan to take a Trump down under the 25th amendment. Their plan cannot succeed until they have whipped up a national hysteria that insists that the president is out of his mind. The president’s recent crude but accurate depiction of certain third- world countries who would like to import their refugees to the United States as shitholes has given the Democrats and their handmaidens in the mainstream media a new talking point to use in their insistence that the president is nuts, For those unfamiliar with the 25th Amendment: The Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures both for filling a vacancy in the office of the Vice President as well as responding to Presidential disabilities. It has four sections, the first three deal with the Vice President becoming Acting President. The fourth section allows the Vice President and a simple majority of the principle officers of the executive departments to decide by vote that the President is unfit for office, even against the wishes of a physically and mentally sound President. The specifics of this mechanism are as follows: · The Vice President and a majority of executive cabinet inform the Senate, by way of the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, in writing that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. · Immediately upon notice to the Senate, the Vice President shall assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. · The President can then transmit to the Senate a written declaration, again by way of the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, that no inability exists, and he shall resume the duties of his office. · The Vice President and a majority of the executive cabinet have four days to transmit a written declaration that the President is still unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, to the Senate by previous ways. · With this second declaration of unfitness, Congress shall assemble within forty-eight hours to decide the issue. Congress then has twenty-one days do certify that the President is unable to discharge his duties, and if so, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the duties as Acting President. · If Congress is unable to certify that the President is unfit, within the twenty-one days of Congress receipt of the initial declaration of unfitness, then the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. Who gets to decide if the President is fit? It starts with the Vice President, Mike Pence. None of it can move forward unless he gives the say-so. The other cabinet members who get a vote are: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson Treasury Secretary Steve Mnunchin Secretary of Defense James Mattis Attorney General Jeff Sessions Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao Secretary of Energy Rick Perry Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen UN Ambassador Nikki Haley While a detailed analysis of exactly who would vote which way isn’t the point of this article, it is important to note that many of the people on this list would vote against Trump if it was the politically expedient thing to do. There are, sadly few Trump loyalists on this list. Would Vice President Mike Pence sign-on to such a coup d’état? The desire to be president does strange things to men. We know that Pence demurred in the wake of the NBC /Billy Bush revelations, refusing to take candidate Trump’s call at the same time party leaders were privately offering to convene the Republican National Committee and dump Trump as the party’s nominee, replacing him with Pence. The Vice President’s political majordomo Nick Ayres got caught red handed leaking information detrimental to the President only to have the Vice President’s highly regarded Communications Director Jeff Lotter take the fall. My sources also tell me that Pence has chafed over the President’s unwillingness to reverse US law when it comes to same -sex marriage and to push to overturn Roe v. Wade. At the same time the Vice President is gung ho for US attorney general Jeff Session’s push to crack down on State legalized marijuana in direct contravention of an important campaign pledge made by the President, As Julius Caesar might say the Vice President has “ that lean and hungry look”. Even if a majority of the cabinet in the vice Pres. Work to sign on to a 25th amendment removal of Trump the chief executive would have the right to appeal this decision to the US House of Representatives. At least one high-level White House aide has told me that they believe House Speaker Paul Ryan has already agreed to be Pence’s vice president in order to block such a move. On December 6th, 2017, Donald Trump made the historic announcement that Jerusalem was to be the recognized capital of Israel. The Establishment Press almost ignored this great achievement on December 7th, 2017 and instead ran story after story about how President Trump was mentally unfit because he a couple of cough drops in his mouth. That he gave a perfect and well received speech that same day, on the 7th, honoring the fallen of Pearl Harbor was totally lost on the media that is ‘Never Trump, All the Time’. Recently the pundits wee parsing discredited Trump hanger-on Cory Lewandowski’s recent book “Let Trump Be Trump” and selecting choice anecdotes about then Candidate Trump, while on the campaign trail. Desperate for absolutely anything with which they can use to paint the President in a negative light, Main Stream Media talking heads point to President Trump’s blunt tell-it-like-it-is nature and his proclivity for Filet-O-Fish sandwiches as a sign that the President is unstable and unfit to lead the nation. Donald J. Trump is a fighter. He’s been down, but he’s always gotten back up and pummeled the ones who knocked him down. He’s a lion, and his true supporters know this and will back him 100%. His supporters, the heart of America, are beyond incensed at the brazen attempts to unseat their duly elected President. Many of them are no longer dreading a confrontation, but rather are itching for it, wanting to settle the score once and for all. https://stonecoldtruth.com/the-coming-25th-amendment-play-to-take-down-trump/
Trump, if he falls, will not "fall" per se: rather, he will be hoisted on his own petard. Either his willingness to surround himself with Russophile traitors and money launderers (such as Roger Stone's partner Paul Manafort) or his penchant for taking mistresses, or both, will be his undoing.
Some say Mr Trump is just short of Cosanostra, (Russian) of course as is the trend of Hollywood of some years. Mafia being Italian of course is so out of date in our world. Mr Trump to my thinking has quite a few problems. Who to align oneself with in this planned pit of hell is anyone's guess. He has three houses to contend with of course. The MIC, the secret government or the military. Odd's on he has chosen the military, white hat's as some would think. Mr Trump was not elected despite thoughts to the contrary. He chosen as was JFK. See now none of those so-called elections were not really so. In fact we were all fooled oer many a long year. This present debacle of closing down government....What a laugh really. Those congress of monkeys are still on the pay roll. To with they will furlough all and sundry of the so-called people as they do in so many countries................ Sad really, so very sad when people choose sides. As people are prone to say on such sites as here..............God wins in the end..............Really.
By their fruits you shall know them, and we have been speaking about the very positive and Christian fruits of this administration. At some point, we all have to choose sides. The separation of the sheep from the goats.
I have no idea of Mr Trump. I have pondered him of a long while though. He may be a good man but he is within a den of wolves. There are no sides as you call them though........... We have the commandments..............
He very well may, after all he is but a man and the last time I checked we are not voting for angels or saints here in the US but those who will hopefully best represent and protect our interests and our nation. So far he seems to be doing a fair job of it especially when compared to the last 30 years.
It is very difficult for a European to understand American politics, the more we think we understand the less we think we do. But as far as Donald Trump is concerned I will write this. Originally I was very suspicious of him. But I notice the intense, very, very intense hostility and outright animosity towards him from the European Liberal mainstream. A good example is the Liberal BBC They try to hide it a little but really it is quite outrageous; out and out hate. It's true what they say , 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' .If these people hate The President so much it makes me more and more like and respect him. It's kind of a paradox. Also he has very much lived up to his pro life promises. Others made such promises and broke them, he has kept them. So respect for all this. I must pray for him at mass today. For people who wonder about Donald Trump I would ask you one question. In my life time I have seen a President come under such a huge range of mudslinging and personal hate filled abuse. They just never stop piling it on. A real campaign of utter hate, really vile personal abuse. Why is this? I sense a lot of this is well organized. This gives me considerable pause too. I hate dirty pool like this. Again great respect to Donald Trump for standing up to this. He has True Grit, no doubt about it. Anyway just a thought. I sense what Shakespeare wrote in , 'Hamlet'; that there is , 'Something rotten in the State of Denmark'. This abuse of Trump it makes me very uneasy. It is like a hit job.
You have just explained my own history on this issue. I came reluctantly to his “party” but it is very significant to me who his enemies are and I see him putting “boots on the ground” where life issues are concerned. I pray for him every day that God will empower him to act righteously and that God will protect Him that he may complete the work he was put there to do by God. For truly he was never meant to win. It was a miracle that he did. Thus the vile rage of lefties. The fix was in and he shouldn’t have won. But God heard the cry of His remnant and acted in a mighty way. Thank you for praying for him Padraig. He needs prayer back up more than probably anyone right now.
I wasn't on the Trump Train when he was running and won the nomination and, when it came to voting, I wasn't pro-Trump, I was "Not Hillary." That said, I was convinced that Hillary was going to win -- for the Media told us so. I voted and then went to confession and Mass and prayed in anguish for what I felt would be the death knell for our country. I am convinced that Trump's election was a gift from God, a great miracle. More and more, I believe he is being used by God to turn things around. No matter what the left throws at him, he seems unfazed.
Something else.....frankly I was so happy when Trump announced he would run....it was so different, (as Justice Scalia also agreed before his own "irregular" demise) such a change from the years of political Pres. who were all lining up for the NWO one world for the powerful and monied elitists, turn us over to the world court for decisions about our Constitutional rights, etc. But, prior to his announcement, I knew from the start about the damage such a vile person, Obama, would accomplish for our country....and right from the start with him was Padraig's "something rotten" quality. And talk about the diabolical disorientation, I watched how the process of our "re-education" leftist system had brainwashed generations who just fell over for this new sudden "idol". All of the made up stories about his past, changing with the wind of politics and the orders, seemingly, of some powerful Commie type handlers, and along came Trump who was the only one who challenged this story and just how O came to occupy such power, without outside help. Trump was of course called racist and "birther" and yet he forced Obama into hurriedly creating that known fraudulent Certificate of Birth, solely digital, that was created so quickly in order to answer Trump's challenge that its creator forgot to flatten the layers of the various stolen forms used to try and legitimatize it. Immediately photo shop experts and even the forensic expert that O's own powerful law firm itself had used in the past called it out as phony. And then Trump's friend, Sheriff Arpaio, did a thorough job of collecting all of what could be found about the guy's history....much of which was hidden, under threats, by the schools he attended, and the corrupt HI system. After several years of Arpaio's objective investigation, which also included O's phony selective service application which he needed to run, he took everything to the obvious agencies involved. Selective Service wouldn't look at it and told him to go to the FBI!! The FBI was under Holder at the time, another corrupt Atty. Gen., and of course they wouldn't look into the possibility of a treasonous Pres. Now we are seeing why. Arpaio is now running for the Senate....and I think he would still like to get that info looked at, and he would then have the influence to do more....although he is around 86 now or something, but who knows! There is so so much more that was only reported on certain conservative blogs. But Trump scared them even then....probably why O had the vile surveillance of Trump, his usual dirty tricks type of operations (as he did when he ran for IL senate), done, using the Alinsky approach (Hillary's idol) to find phony dirt and outright lies to target someone which after repeating such over and over through the enabling media forced gullible people to join their corrupt band wagon. So, go Trump. You have my daily prayers.
Speaking of Obama, mark my words, we have not heard the last of him. No doubt in my mind he is working with the antichrist and the kings of the Apocalypse as we speak. Evil is finalizing their diabolical plans at this moment. Hillary is part of this ring of evil and she won't go down without the diabolical forces she works within has exhausted itself upon the world.
