That's how the politicians always introduce it. They say it is the right thing to do for certain 'hard cases' (supposedly, when the mother's life requires it, soon adapted to her 'health'; for handicapped [in politically-correct circles it is a greater sin to use this description of a child than to dismember it] and non-viable unborns [I have a 31-year-old like this]; and in the cases of rapes in which the poor child wouldn't have yet existed at the moment of perpetration). As soon as they get this far, it immediately becomes open season. In fairness, very many of even the most liberal and perverted in the Church draw the line at abortion. I think this still means there is hope for them...yet. But when one finds oneself losing purchase on that slipperiest of slopes...
Well at least the cancer has burst right out in the open where we can see it!! How can anyone still be deceived? https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/n...es-amoris-to-say-some-circumstances-require-c New Academy for Life member uses Amoris to say some circumstances ‘require’ contraception NewsCatholic ChurchMon Jan 8, 2018 - 4:39 pm EST New Academy for Life member uses Amoris to say some circumstances ‘require’ contraception amoris laetitia , catholic , humanae vitae ROME, January 8, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — Responsible parenthood can obligate a married couple to use artificial birth control, a recently appointed member of the Pontifical Academy for Life has argued, basing his theory on Pope Francis’ apostolic exhortation on the family, Amoris Laetitia. Italian moral theologian Father Maurizio Chiodi said at a December 14 public lecture at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome that there are “circumstances — I refer to Amoris Laetitia, Chapter 8 — that precisely for the sake of responsibility, require contraception.” Chapter 8 of the Pope’s 2016 document on the family has drawn controversy because of its differing interpretations on the issue of admitting some divorced and civilly “remarried” couples to Holy Communion. When “natural methods are impossible or unfeasible, other forms of responsibility need to be found,” argued Fr. Chiodi in his lecture entitled: Re-reading Humanae Vitae (1968) in light of Amoris Laetitia (2016). In such circumstances, he said, “an artificial method for the regulation of births could be recognized as an act of responsibility that is carried out, not in order to radically reject the gift of a child, but because in those situations responsibility calls the couple and the family to other forms of welcome and hospitality.” The Italian professor’s comments come as the Church this year marks the 50th anniversary of Pope Paul VI’s encyclical Humanae Vitae, which reaffirmed the Church’s ban on contraception. In his encyclical, Paul VI called artificial contraception “intrinsically wrong,” approved natural family planning, and upheld the Church’s teaching on conjugal love and responsible parenthood. Chiodi’s lecture was the third in a series of talks being hosted this academic year by the Gregorian University’s faculty of social sciences and moral theology. The aim of the talks is to take a new and broad look at the encyclical “in the context of a time of change” and “more complex” situations. Fr. Chiodi’s lecture also follows revelations that the Vatican quietly created a four-member commission with the Pope’s approval, in order to “promote a comprehensive and authoritative study” of Humanae Vitae to coincide with the anniversary. The move came after Pope Francis purged the Pontifical Academy for Life, filling it with new appointees (including Fr. Chiodi), some with dissenting views on Humanae Vitae. And they coincided with the Pope issuing on September 8 a papal decree replacing the John Paul II Institute with a new institute to carry forward the teaching of Amoris Laetitia.
I had a very cheerful thought there. What will the Cardinals think when they hear this? it might stir them to action!! If this doesn't do it I can't think what might. I must remember to pray for our poor , poor Church at mass today. Come to think of it , I wonder what they are thinking about all this up in heaven? God must be very,very angry.
To paraphrase the great satirist, Eccles, Amoris Laetitia=Amoral Lay-teaching. The latter phrase is what most often pops up in my mind now, when I think about this document. I think he also renamed this body as the Papal Academy for Death. This broad interpretation of AL can be used to drive a coach-and-four through traditional Catholic morality. 'Responsibility' is a word I doubt appeared much in the Gospels. Here is the definition of 'responsible' that came up first on Google for me: responsible rɪˈspɒnsɪb(ə)l/ adjective adjective: responsible 1. having an obligation to do something, or having control over or care for someone, as part of one's job or role. "the cabinet minister responsible for Education" synonyms: in charge of, in control of, at the helm of, accountable for, liable for, charged with; More manage, oversee, superintend, supervise, conduct, run, look after, organize, produce, see to "the Home Office is responsible for prisons" having to report to (a superior) and be answerable to them for one's actions. "the Prime Minister and cabinet are responsible to Parliament" synonyms: answerable, accountable; More supervised by, managed by "he is responsible to the president" 2. being the primary cause of something and so able to be blamed or credited for it. "Gooch was responsible for 198 of his side's 542 runs" synonyms: accountable, answerable, to blame; More behind, at the bottom of, guilty of, culpable of; blameworthy, at fault, in the wrong "those responsible for the mistake have been dealt with" antonyms: guiltless morally accountable for one's behaviour. "the progressive emergence of the child as a responsible being" 3. (of a job or position) involving important duties, independent decision-making, or control over others. "she had risen rapidly to a high and responsible position in the civil service" synonyms: important, powerful, authoritative, executive, decision-making, high "Margaret holds a responsible position in marketing" antonyms: lowly capable of being trusted. "a responsible adult" synonyms: trustworthy, capable of being trusted, trusty, level-headed, rational, sane, reasonable, sensible, sound, stable, mature, adult; More reliable, dependable, conscientious "Mr Smith is likely to prove a respectable and responsible tenant" antonyms: irresponsible, untrustworthy There is nothing obvious in the above definitions to indicate that being 'responsible' has anything to do with deciding between right and wrong, with the exception of the end of point 2.2, indicating moral accountability. It mostly seems to be about adherence to the party line. Those who misuse this property should be aware that they will ultimately receive blame or credit for it from Someone much Higher than the likes of Pope Francis and his allies. One can see this 'responsibility' theme being extended throughout the whole gamut of sexual morality. Starting with abortion, of course. Same-sex "marriage" will be deemed a 'responsible' way of dealing with sodomy. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************* "...an act of responsibility that is carried out, not in order to radically reject the gift of a child, but because in those situations responsibility calls the couple and the family to other forms of welcome and hospitality.” Can someone kindly explain how this sentence fulfills the principles of logic, for I am entirely at a loss. [2+2=5; rejection=welcome; what's good is bad, what's bad is good seems to me to be the pattern]. Is this what was meant by the "abomination of desolation"?
. It is a type isn't it? As all untruths are in the eyes of God. I do not think it is THE abomination written of however, because we know that even a Priest who is not Holy in his actions can consecrate the Host according to the Catechism we know that the Sacrifice is and remains Holy and valid.
Don, I agree, not the Abomination of Desolation which the Antichrist will be responsible for. DeGaulle, I missed your question at the bottom of your post the first time I read it, sorry about that. I worry some times that we are much further along than we believe we are but then I stop myself because of what Our Lady of Fatima stated about a period of peace and what our Catechism teaches us about the end times. In addition, doesn't scripture state that the Jews specifically accept a man who comes in his own name as their messiah (the Antichrist). This has not happened and therefore we cannot be that far along yet. John 5:43 (DRA) Full Chapter I am come in the name of my Father, and you receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive. So we are told from our Catechism, that first the Jews convert and then the Antichrist comes at some point after their conversion. From this scripture above, we know they will accept a man as their messiah and if the Jews are in the Church at this point then it appears that many Catholics will believe that Christ has returned but we know that this fake messiah is the Antichrist. Or no?
I'm not saying all but it certainly seems a vast majority of Jewish people lean very liberal in their thinking and voting. Something which I have wondered will play into all this if we are around to see it.
You are right, of course. I was expressing my hurt and frustration. Saint John has laid it all out. Still, things look to be heading in a very abominable direction. And it is quite desolating.
This is a very important point to remember Carol. I had forgotten. The Jews have not experienced a mass conversion to Catholicism and so we cannot be at the time of the antichrist yet. We are most likely entering the sixth age and the Minor Chastisement, not the Major one of the antichrist.
There was a very interesting article on, 'Mystic Post' , (which I can't lay my hands on) recently which reports on a recent appartion of Our Lady in Medugorje. Now it is common for demons to manifest there with a person screaming and shouting. But on this occasion there was loads of screaming cursing , shouting from numerous people. They are specualting that the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart might be near. That is why the demons went crazy. Certainly we need something now.
http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/2018/01/05/open-apostasy-vatican-fr-jerome-guest-post/ Open Apostasy In The Vatican – Fr. Jerome Guest Post Posted by Jonathan Byrd January 5, 2018 Here is another post from Fr. Jerome – The state of the Church right now is the fault of conservatives, not liberals. Vatican II was hijacked by liberals 50 years ago only because conservatives were sleepy and trusting of men. And this continues in Rome today to a worse extent. Yes, there will always be liberals who hate Christ, but what is different now from the rest of Church history is that Christ’s closest clerical friends are too afraid to fight for His Church. No, the four Cardinals of the Dubia are nothing like St. Athanasius or St. Maximus the Confessor or St. Nicholas or St. John Chrysostom. The saints had no need to “hear out” heretics in a “pastoral” manner. There will always be heretics, but that is not the problem. The problem is the want of saints. The saintly bishops of the first 500 years of the Church revealed the poisonous words of heretics, gentle as they be, were sent into exile, and then they were vindicated (usually in their lifetime) for their reckless courage. I see no reckless courage today in the face of open heresy. And this is why the open heresy of four years ago in the Vatican has become an open apostasy in the highest ranks in the Church. Let me remind the readers of three definitions: 1) Heresy is the denial of even one part of Divine Revelation 2) Apostasy is a full renunciation of the unique and redemptive act of Jesus Christ. 3) Soteriology is the study of salvation. The false prophet on the Chair of Peter is now espousing a soteriology that is little different from a Unitarian Universalist. We have full apostasy now in the Vatican…and not a single bishop is willing to say anything against full and outright soteriological apostasy? No. Rather, our most “courageous” prelates flex their muscles against a single sexual line in Amoris Laetitia. This is not courage. It is not courage that no one questions a clearly-forced Papal-resignation of Pope Benedict XVI. It is not courage that no one (except a retired courageous bishop in Texas) questions a tampered-Conclave to elect our current false-prophet. Like the Republicans in the 1980s in the USA who promised to end abortion in order to keep their office (but did very little) I fear these “conservative” bishops are doing as much damage to the Church as the gay Cardinals who hate the Church and are overturning every point of Our Faith. Why? Why are the former like the latter? For not resisting with courage. If any bishop should ever read this, let me remind you that the Holy Spirit in the book of the Apocalypse places through the Apostle John cowards in the same lake of fire as murderers: “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”—Apocalypse 21:8 ESV I for one: resist. I renounce the open apostasy in the Vatican in the name of Jesus Christ and I beg the wrath of St. Peter and St. Paul to stop this blasphemy of the Eternal City and this mockery of Jesus Christ’s own apostolic succession. I will reveal my name when I am ready to lose my faculties as a priest in current good standing and go into exile, but for now, I resist in the name of Jesus Christ. Jonathan Byrd Traditional Catholic with a wife, 10 kids, 5 cats and 2 dogs. To learn why this lay person is running this blog rather than a priest, go here.
I am sorry, I am afraid it is quite true our Cardinals are letting us down very badly. I am afraid the whole entire lot of them. A bitter pill to swallow but there you are. This is not the first time this is happened. But the last time they fled in the Garden of Olives they had not been strengthened by the Holy Spirit. Now they have no such excuse for rank cowardice and treachery.. May God forgive them and have Mercy on their poor cowardly souls. If they think a discreet silence will save them from the Fires of Hell they have another thought coming. They will have to discover at the Judgement Seat the difference between Prudence and Rank Cowardice.
DeGaulle, Thank you. I find I have to remind myself over and over again because of what is occurring right now in the Church. God, of course, knew that this would happen, this confusion about everything. Therefore, Our Blessed Mother has come to us to help us by giving us some additional insight for our current times.
Anonimi della Croce Articoli https://anonimidellacroceblog.wordpress.com/2018/01/08/spifferi-parte-lvii-il-pericolo-dello-scisma-di-fra-cristoforo/ "Drafts part LVII: the danger of the schism. Oath of fidelity to the magisterium of Bergoglio "of Fra Cristoforo Dates: 08/01 / 2018 Author: anonimidellacroce2017 "Drafts part LVII: the danger of the schism. Oath of fidelity to the magisterium of Bergoglio "of Fra Cristoforo I state that what is reported in the drafts comes from a source very much in the Vatican circles. And he tells me how important he feels about what he succeeds in "capturing" all the entourage that hangs out daily in Santa Marta. So I report exclusively what is "confided" to me. And the public for duty of Truth. I can tell you that the source is worthy of trust. Proof of this is the fact that so many drafts have now become sadly realized. Those who have not yet had implications, it is not that they will not happen. It is only a matter of time. Because, as you will have understood, things in Santa Marta can change from one day to another. It depends on the moods. We are simple ambassadors. And as they say: ambasciator does not bring penalty. Clarified this we arrive at the Spiffero. In terms of "reforms" Bergoglio has always had very clear ideas. From the first moment of his pontificate he beat the nail on: migrants, ecology, ecumenism. With the publication of Amoris Laetitia he then sealed his "relativism" in matters of morality. These points are now established in the neochiesa. Now in almost all the Parishes you do not hear about anything else. The faithful and children are taught nothing but the "verb" Bergoglio. Like an obsession. But as we have seen in these times, not all have aligned. And among these there are also Bishops and Cardinals. This is the concern of Bergoglio. Those who "resist". He can not stand it. He is stronger than him. Here then is what Santa Marta has been studying for a few months. My source told me that a sort of "act of fidelity to the pope (obviously Omissis) and his magisterium" is under study. The small letters are desired. This kind of "act of fidelity" will be required of all clerics of the Catholic Church, deacons, priests, bishops and cardinals. And it must be formally pronounced. In the various dioceses a day will be chosen in which all, bishop, priests and deacons will have to pronounce solemnly this formal act. Which means to promise "blind loyalty" to the "magisterium" and the teaching of Bergoglio. Of course it will be mandatory. Those who do not make this "promise" will have to consider themselves "suspended a divinis". If this draft were to happen (I hope not), we will be at the turn. And I believe that nobody will save us from the schism. Also because how can we lend loyalty to a heretical magisterium? In my opinion there will be a rift never seen in the history of the Church. The Neighbor of Bergoglio, and those who will remain faithful to the Traditional Teaching of the Church. And hence the total confusion. Regarding the times, the source has not been unbalanced. He told me about a few months. He told me that the text is being prepared. I think it's time to increase prayer. We strongly invoke the Madonna who can save us from this disaster. Let's do Eucharistic adoration. Let us pray to the Apostles, the Martyrs, the Saints, the Souls of Purgatory, the Archangels, the Angels. Let's move Heaven as much as possible. Because if such a thing happens, the battle will really be furious. We pray so much! Let us pray for one another, because none of us yields before the enemy. We also add fasting! At least who can do it! It's true. The Lord has told us that the gates of hell will not prevail. But he did not tell us there will be no battle. The battle will be there. And it will be the decisive one. Fra Cristoforo
I am throwing this out there for anyone who might know: Is this "Fra Cristoforo" fake news, disinformation or real? I know he appeared about a year ago, then Rorate Caeli and 1Peter5 called him out as a possible disinformation source, then he disappeared. Now he appears to have returned with a vengeance. Does anyone know anything more?
I would be wary o it. I'm sure that there are people in the Vatican baiting lines in the hope of catching a fish or two. My heart goes out to faithful Catholics working in the Vatican. They must be terrified having to be careful of every word they utter, every phone call they make or receive and every person they meet.
