Found this video easy to follow and explains the stars very well to where I can understand a bit better. Really worth a watch.
That latest abortion video.....horrific....with such a cold heart...except maybe for "concern" for the "assistants" and even that only for expediency:
This video is very interesting. I said something that took me to the book, The Poem of the Man God, by Maria Valtorta, in order to confirm his birth date and period of the Magi. The attached video suggests Jesus was born on September 29th, three BC and the Magi came in June about 9 months later. Now Maria Valtorta says that Jesus was born on a cold winter night, but does not say what month. Further on Maria say's, "the three Wise Men contemplate the Child, who I think must be nine to twelve months old". Now, I had always assumed the Wisemen came while Jesus was still in the stable, but apparently this is not the case. Learned something new again! THIS VIDEO MUST BE WATCHED FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN WHAT THE SIGNS IN THE SKIES ARE SAYING THROUGH ITS STARS.
I recall reading that Jesus could have been a toddler by the time the Maji arrived. As far as I can remember, the reasoning was the length of time it would have taken for the Maji to travel to Bethlehem. Wasn't the age range of the slaughtered innocents two years old and younger? That would fit in with Jesus having been a very young toddler. Anyway, if they arrived at night, Jesus would have been in bed although perhaps not a manager at that stage.
Thanks earthangels for finding/posting this. This is amazing and the signs in the skies with this video and the one Martina posted are unfolding as we speak. Very providential I believe!!
Yes, Maria Valtorta gives the specifics of this night and the Wisemen and caravans, in great detail, with the skies all lit up.
No no, quite the opposite. MOG gives allot of detail on this debate on the thread The Poem of the Man God if anyone wants to bother reading.
FWIW, September can be a very cold month in Bethlehem, so a "cold winter night" in Sept. is not out of the question. Others have stated the birth must have been in the spring, because that is the lambing season and would have been the time when the shepherds would have been in the fields watching the flocks. HOWEVER ... Bethlehem, being a hop, skip, and a jump away from Jerusalem, had a minor industry in providing lambs for sacrifice at the Temple. As such, the shepherds would have been on constant watch to guard against rustlers. Another writer proposed that the Magi came in order to fulfill a command of Daniel. Daniel was a eunuch. As such, he would not have had any children. However, as one of the leading magi/astrologers/priests (and probably one of the people who helped form that group, which by the time of Jesus held the power to declare and depose kings -- one BIG reason why Herod was frightened to see them) Daniel would have amassed a great deal of gold, silver, incense, spices, and other valuable items. It's possible that Daniel would have stated in his will that his treasures were to be held for the future King of Israel, and left detailed instructions on how to recognize when he had been born. The Magi, then, would not just be offering gifts but delivering Daniel's inheritance. Personally, I've often wondered what Joseph and Mary did with all those precious items when they were forced to flee Herod. Used them for bribes, or travel expenses?
I remembered a link that explained a well founded reason for the Dec. 25 birth date but now can't find it. Here is something similar though: http://catholicherald.com/Opinions/Was_Jesus_really_born_Dec__25_/ Okay, found it.....where be the lambs be the shepherds! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2007/12/evidence-december-25-is-the-right-day/
Am I the only one that finds Maria Valtorta to be nothing special? I mean, we have Anne Catherine Emmerich and Mary of Agreda for those who want to delve into details not found in their own private meditations. Maria Valtorta to me has some crude details which I find off-putting and seemingly not of divine origin . Just my feelings Say what you will I may be a dud
Mary of Agreda has very detailed accounts of the life of Jesus and Mary. The volumes are profound and so edifying. It is a must read.
I would not read them if they don't inspire you. They inspire me and many others I know who have read all volumes. It was one of St. John Paul bed side books.
Dude (or Dudette), it's the first time in over 10,000 years since the last time this alignment has occurred. The Earth wobbles on its axis like a top. This results in something called "precession" that shifts the viewed positions of the stars over time. So this particular alignment has not been around since humans developed written language.
I was being facetious! So this sign in the sky, having already occurred, was not important in its a priori appearance.....only for another future occurrence. And Jupiter being "birthed" previously, now that it is known, is not given any similar meaning since, in that case, it would follow that question..."If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" Ah, the mind of God!
Let's be specific here: the part about the sun rising with Virgo behind it is the event that is a one in over-10,000 year event. Precession is why we know horoscopes can't be real: I was born in the sign of Leo, meaning I was born between July 23 and August 22. When the Greeks adopted the Hebrew astrology charts, Leo would be in the eastern sky in the morning around August 1, so when the sun rose it would be rising "in the House of Leo." Except it doesn't anymore. Due to precession, when the sun rises in the constellation of Leo, it's sometime around early-to-mid July. Likewise, 10,000-plus years ago the Pleiades (the constellation of 12 stars that forms the crown on the virgin's head) didn't look like it does today, as the positions of those stars in relation to our solar system would have changed. Ditto for the moon under her feet. So the main event (the sun in the constellation virgo) may have occurred over 10,000 years ago, before humans developed a written language to pass this information on, but all the other details won't happen until this September.
Polar bear photographed 'praying' next to cross A polar bear looks up at a cross in Wesleyville, N.L., on Wednesday, March 29, 2017. THE CANADIAN PRESS/HO - Ocean View Photography, Jessica Andrews
