2016 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by Richard67, Feb 14, 2016.

  1. Byron

    Byron Powers

    If it was someone from the NSA leaking the emails they would have been killed by now. Those in charge of the NSA from Utah want a war with Russia. So, I doubt it's a distraught NSA member leaking this. In fact, the NSA has been working with the Clintons, as well as, the FBI in the cover-up. Both hierarchies in both institutions are corrupt. The leaks come from an outsider. Weiner will be the fall guy, but there is someone else. Hillary is calling their bluff, because she thinks the leaks come from the NSA, and believes they will never disclose what's in the emails.
     
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  2. Byron

    Byron Powers

    The irony of it all is that the FBI and the NSA have been caught in a cover-up. That's the real story.
     
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  3. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Weiner is co-operating with the FBI. Maybe he has been given immunity.......he's the only one who hasn't been let off the hook. Some people are saying the filename for the emails was "Life Insurance", which says a lot about both the Weiners and the Clintons.
     
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  4. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Likely he named it life insurance because he intended to blackmail Clinton or his wife if he didn't get his perks from his high power connections....or, if he felt threatened by Clinton, he had his "life insurance" to keep himself safe? Sure looked like blackmail backup either way...

    Can you imagine what a foreign power could have done with this info if Clinton got in office?

    That's why you don't open up yourself or our nations security on an unsecured server.

    Wow, what a wild campaign....
     
  5. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Wow, this election is getting so dramatic! And if what is predicted on 4Chan happens, there will be the reason Obama won't finish his term (as Charlie Johnston says).
     
  6. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    That's were Hillary and her folks want you to put your attention.
    I just read an article which states that it all won't come out until after the election, ugh.
     
  7. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Obama will finish his term unless he is directly implicated in criminal activity. If Trump wins, the most dangerous time will come between Nov. 8th and the Inauguration. That's when Obama will be most dangerous and unpredictable and might just start a war with Russia. Putin has thus far refused to take the bait, whether it was the violence in Kiev, or the ongoing genocide against the Donbass, the shootdown of MH17, the shootdown of the Su-24, or the ongoing martyrdom of Christians in Syria - Putin has consistently refused to engage the West in a more direct conflict. But if Trump wins then the Neocons lose and they might see the time between the election and the inauguration as their last ditch chance to achieve their demonic goals. Trump and Putin will need all the prayers they can get during that time.
     
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  8. Richard67

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    We now know that there is an internal war within the FBI. Career FBI agents were threatening to mutiny over Comey's dereliction of duty. A similar dynamic is also present in the NSA and other institutions. Not everyone in government and the military has sold out. It appears that there are still many good men and women and they are starting to stand up. Never doubt the power of prayer. As for Russia, they have neither the reach or the capability to feed Assange and groups like Anonymous the sheer volume of information that has been leaked, especially since Assange is monitored by Western intelligence services 24/7. Assange is being fed information by a disgruntled NSA. The NSA doesn't mess around, especially when the security of the nation is at stake and war with Russia is on the horizon.
     
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  9. DonnaS

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    I agree Obama might start a war to create enough chaos to take the presidency from Trump Martial Law Fashion....If Trump wins as a result of this email investigation, Obama and the NWO will be desperate to stop him from gaining power on Inauguration Day...I agree Nov 8 to Inauguration Day will be very tender and vulnerable for Trump.....Please God, Help the USA get back on the right path again.....
     
  10. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    There are quite a few scenarios which could lead to Charlie J's prediction being correct. Mind boggling.

    PS - Typo in my previous post, should state where not were. I need to reread my posts about 3 times to get them correct.
     
  11. Dolours

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    I hope the FBI has backed up Weiner's computer because the Justice Department is going to be involved in the investigation which must be a huge relief to Clinton and her staff. Assistant Attorney General, Peter J. Kadzik will be in in charge. Zerohedge reports that Podesta credited Kadzik with keeping him out of prison during the Lewinsky affair http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...iously-review-abedin-emails-there-just-one-pr According to other reports, the DOJ pressured the FBI to stop investigating the Clinton Foundation. Looks like Obama has decided to make sure that any incriminating evidence will be buried or bleached.
     
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  12. DonnaS

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    my head is spinning with the twists and turns of events on a minute to minute basis....God Save Our Country
     
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  13. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Much as I'm concerned about what's happening in the US, what worries me more is Podesta's connections with the Church.

    Perhaps all this stuff coming out in the open is an answer to prayer. We need to keep up the prayers to make sure that God brings some good out of all these shady goings-on.
     
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  14. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    The infiltration of the church is evident. I'm sure this ungodly gang has been a large part of it. Hillarys gang is evil....period.
     
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  15. Byron

    Byron Powers

    The main disgruntled former NSA agent is in Russia today, Snowden, a hero.
     
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  16. padraig

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    I was reaing a book on the Seocnd World War last night , specifically on the behaviour of the Allied Generals who overall behaved horrendously. Talk about the Ego has Landed.

    But General Dwight Eisesnhower comes across very well in it. Il earnt something I did not know which impressed me quite a lot about him. At the end of the war Hollywood wanted to make a movie about him from which himelf and his wife would have made a huge amount of money and they were not very well off at the time. But General Eisenhower refused saying that he would find it deplorable if any public servant sought to make money out of public service. Well were are you going to get this today.

    Towards the end of the war 100 German prisoners of war died of suffocation whilst in American care, being tranported by traina cross Germany. Dwight Eisenhower sent a letter of perosnal apology to the German High COmmand through their delegation in Switzerland experesing his own perosnal deep remorse and promising a complete inquiry by the INspector General into what had happened.

    I mean where are you going to get honourable behaviour like this anywhere today?

    At the close of the war Presiendt Harry Truman and his wife left Washingotn with jus tpretty well the clothes they stood up in.

    Sigh..the good old days.

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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The supreme quality for leadership is unquestionably integrity. Without it, no real success is possible, no matter whether it is on a section gang, a football field, in an army, or in an office.

    Dwight D. Eisenhower


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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I read a report in the Mail Online that there is some distancing between the White House and the Clinton campaign, with the former not sharing in the Clinton attacks on Comey. Is Obama trying to limit the contagion?
     
  19. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    It wasn't so black and white, even back then. For example, I was always told growing up that dropping the atomic bombs was necessary to save American lives. Turns out, that was a lie and many of our top Generals opposed the dropping of the bomb. For example, in his memoirs Admiral William D. Leahy, the President's Chief of Staff, and the top official who presided over meetings of both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Combined U.S.-U.K. Chiefs of Staff, minced few words: "The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender. . . .In being the first to use it, we . . . adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."

    On June 18, 1945, almost a month before the Emperor's July intervention to seek an end to the war and seven weeks before the atomic bomb was used, Leahy recorded in his diary: "It is my opinion at the present time that a surrender of Japan can be arranged with terms that can be accepted by Japan and that will make fully satisfactory provisions for America's defense against future trans-Pacific aggression."

    Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet stated in a public address given at the Washington Monument on October 5, 1945: "The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war. Nimitz also stated: "The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan. " In a private 1946 letter to Walter Michels of the Association of Philadelphia Scientists, Nimitz observed that "the decision to employ the atomic bomb on Japanese cities was made on a level higher than that of the Joint Chiefs of Staff."

    Admiral William F. Halsey, Jr., Commander U.S. Third Fleet, stated publicly in 1946: "The first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment. . . . It was a mistake to ever drop it. . . . [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it. . . . It killed a lot of Japs, but the Japs had put out a lot of peace feelers through Russia long before. "

    Time-Life editor Henry R. Luce later recalled that during a May-June 1945 tour of the Pacific theater: "I spent a morning at Cavite in the Philippines with Admiral Frank Wagner in front of huge maps. Admiral Wagner was in charge of air search-and-patrol of all the East Asian seas and coasts. He showed me that in all those millions of square miles there was literally not a single target worth the powder to blow it up; there were only junks and mostly small ones at that."

    That is but a sampling of what was said at the time but never divulged to the public. More testimonies can be found here: http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/lewis/2010/atomicdec.htm

    One thing is for sure: Ike was an honorable man and he warned us about the dangers of the military industrial complex - the same warmongers who today fall under the Neocon label and who are so terrified of a Trump presidency.
     
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  20. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    I'd wager that everyone of the bad bishops, corrupt priests, and their accomplices among the laity is more than likely a Freemason.
     
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