Luz de Maria Message

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  1. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Malachi Martin Gives: CLUES To the Third Secret Fatima: “The defining event for the Church in the third millennium.” The Third Secret: “An ‘either-or’ proposition, and we’re now living in the ‘or.’” The coming chastisement: “Your worst nightmare, multiplied exponentially.” These are the words of Malachi Martin – who read the Third Secret of Fatima.
    By Suzanne Pearson
    During the four years before his death in 1999 it was my privilege to know Father Malachi Martin. I had a rather substantial interaction with him over the next four years, during which time he often spoke about Fatima.

    He believed that Fatima was the most important event of the 20th Century, and that carrying out its mandate was the most urgent task facing the Church and the world. I had already noticed, listening to his interviews, that when he spoke about Fatima, he
    spoke with authority, as Our Lord’s contemporaries had said about His teaching. So, during our very first telephone conversation, I said, “I get the impression that you know the Fatima Secret!” And Father Malachi said, “I do.”

    When we met the following week, alluding to his skepticism about the Charismatic movement, I asked him sort of kiddingly, “Did the Holy Spirit reveal the Third Secret to you?” “Oh no,”he replied. “I was shown a copy of the Third Secret at the time Pope John XXIII opened it and sought the advice of a group of Cardinals in 1960. One of those Cardinals was Augustin Cardinal Bea, and I was his assistant.” I then ventured, “The Third Secret concerns the apostasy in the Church, doesn’t it?” This guess was based on the few scattered tidbits about Fatima that came to light during the lean years of the 70s and 80s, and on the reasoningof Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite: “The material chastisements are already predicted in the second part of the Secret.” The Third Secret predicts “a chastisement of the spiritual order.”

    To my surprise, Father Malachi responded: “The apostasy in the Church forms the backdrop or the context of the Third Secret. The apostasy is just beginning now. But the chastisements foretold in the Secret are very real, physical chastisements, and
    they are terrible!”

    “We’ve Just killed a billion People”
    He then related to me the exchange he had had with Cardinal Bea, when the Cardinal emerged from the meeting Pope John XXIII was holding with his advisors, looking pale as a sheet: “ ‘What’s wrong, Your Eminence?’ I asked him. ‘We’ve just killed a billion people. Look at this!’ He handed me the single sheet of paper with those 25 lines of handwriting. Since that day, every word of this text has been imprinted indelibly in my mind.”

    Cardinal Bea had made the statement about “a billion people” because the Pope had just made the decision not to release the
    Third Secret, and not to consecrate Russia. I asked Father Malachi if he could tell me anything further about those “terrible”
    chastisements, which would kill a billion people. He explained that, before reading the Secret, he had been required to take an oath not to reveal it, but he did believe it should have been revealed, and that Our Lord and Our Lady wanted people to know about it.

    Therefore, he mentioned the Third Secret whenever he could; he would talk around it, giving as much background information
    about it, and as many hints as he could about it, without revealing the actual text. Thus he proceeded to rattle off very quickly a list of possible calamities, and said that some of these were in the Secret. Although the list included such things as World War III, the death of the Pope, and the Three Days of Darkness, it was not particularly enlightening, since not all the coming chastisements were on the list, and not everything on the list will be in the chastisements.
     
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  2. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

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  3. Why would John XXIII refuse to do the consecration? Why would he not reveal the secret? I am shaking my head.
    I lived through this time period as a young teenager. In fact, I became a Catholic 10 days after he died. I had no idea of the magnitude of all of this. I do recall some Catholic girlfriends of mine, those who went to Catholic schools, talking about the third Secret of Fatima and wondering what was in it.
     
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  4. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    This is what I believe to be true.
    Be spiritually prepared...
     
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  5. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Fr Martin said that the secret was not revealed because of geopolitical reasons concerning Russia.
     
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  6. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    HH, I don't think it was supposed to be any other way or any other timing. Unfortunately, I think things will even get more frustrating when the anti-Christ has reared his head.

    GOD BLESS US ALL.
     
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  7. John XXIII made the agreement/treaty/(concession) called the "Pact of Metz" with Moscow to not criticize Russian Communism or Russian people in public in order to have the Russian Orthodox observers attend Vat. II. This ongoing agreement also effected future attempts at the Consecration. I believe those are the geopolitical reasons that Fr. Martin meant.

    "John XXIII has conceded to the Soviet negotiator, Monsignor Nikodim, the promise not to attack the people OR THE REGIME of Russia. This was done to secure Moscow's permission for the Russian Orthodox observers to attend the Council. Since then, the Holy See has considered itself to be still bound by the commitments of John XXIII. Communism is no longer ever mentioned in any papal document."

    Here is a bunch of stuff about it:

    http://www.fatima.org/Weop/e8cp2.asp

    and some comments about said agreement:

    http://www.fatima.org/WEOP/e8cp3.asp
     
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  8. Wow. I had no idea. I can see why, now.
    Thank you, EtoA.
     
  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    This is true, but communism is sure mentioned endlessly in prophecy since Fatima and Garabandal and seems to be a dominant theme in today's prophetic words as well.
     
  10. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Keep your eye on Turkey Carol55, we might see the latest antichrist rearing its head there sooner that we think. As for the rest, only God knows.
     
  11. MESSAGE FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
    TO HIS BELOVED DAUGHTER LUZ DE MARIA
    AUGUST 9, 2016



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    My Beloved People, I bless you.



    SEEK ME WITHOUT CEASING ...


    DESIRE IT, UNTIL I AM THE GREATEST NECESSITY FOR YOU.



    LOVE ME, UNTIL REASON CALLS THE WILL TO BE AWARETHAT I AM THE SUPREME GOOD.



    My People, be docile towards My Appeals; the right disposition of the human person is necessary in order that Faith, Hope and Charity might grow in you.



    The virtuous man is seen without saying a word, since in him My Love shines ...



    The man who seeks to be admired lives from his pride; he will possess eloquence, but it will be empty and his word will not achieve more than momentary admiration.



    WHOEVER DOES NOT ENTRUST HIMSELF OR HERSELF TO ME AND IS NOT HUMBLE, DOES NOT POSSESS VIRTUES BUT ONLY EMPTY WORDS.



    My People, you must seek unity, you must go in search of the common good so that devotion for one another be the fulfillment of the Divine Command.



    Whoever is not fraternal and walks over his or her own well-being is prevented by pride from seeing the need of his or her brother and sister... Whoever is fraternal and follows Me is pleased to guide his or her brothers and sisters towards the good of all, knowing that My Providence sees the direction in which man works and pours himself out, providing for all in their needs according to My Will. I ask you only for a right disposition and My Providence welcomes and blesses, blesses and loves.



    I ENLIGHTEN YOU WITH MY WORD, FOR MY WORD IS REVELATION, WHICH YOU BELIEVE BY FAITH, ACCORDING TO HUMAN UNDERSTANDING AND HUMAN WILL THAT COMES TOWARDS ME OR GOES AWAY FROM ME.



    Revelation is not contrary to reason, rather both are necessary. Although reason does not reach Divine Mystery, Faith prevents man from falling into error. Just as the one who proclaims that the pain of hell ends by Divine Mercy falls into grave error; this is contrary to Sacred Scripture. Human will is free to receive good or evil. Even so, I seek man so that he desires good.



    My People, you have persisted in evil; if you do not seek to make reparation, you cannot be forgiven by Me. Whoever has known Me and rejects Me is more culpable if they do not return to union with Me.



    My People, it is not enough to call one another Christians; it is not with dead works that you gain Eternal Life. It is not with an empty prayer, or with acts without My Love that you attain Eternal Life, it is not with appearances that you gain Eternal Life. Every instant should be lived as if it were the last, and Love must prevail over your own selves; otherwise, you have not attained the comprehension of living in my Will.



    I call you not to forget this: Humanity has forgotten brotherhood, love between brothers and sisters, the helping of brothers and sisters. The struggle for what is material makes man selfish and hard of heart.



    How much more will you live?

    How much more will the system that man has implemented prevail?

    Do I not take care of My children, in order that My children should give mutual assistance to one another?



    The birds of the field do not die, I feed them. Thus my children are protected by Me, guided by Me, and, pointing out the way in advance to them, I warn them so that they might not be prey to the errors of the moment.



    WAKE UP! DO NOT ALLOW FAITH TO DECREASE. Stay awake, My children, do not trust in the agreements of the men who govern the great Nations; be aware that at this instant hunger is taking lives, diseases are not stopping, natural disasters continue at their peak.



    Humanity turns its back on Me, rejects Me, immorality is present at every instant and this, My People, is what you must flee: violence - it knows no bounds. Some want to be more violent than others, some of My children have become willing to be the most ruthless. The youth grieve Me with their insensitivity and lack of respect for life and for their elders.



    MAN IS LIVING THE GREAT CHAOS REVEALED BY MY MOTHER AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY MEN.



    My People, do not be distracted by trivialities, be careful, do not be distracted by the cunning of the devil who wants to distance you from reality.



    My Mother shelters your soul so that you may remain beside Me.



    My People, since the beginning of this Revelation, I have invited you to stay in the Immaculate Heart of Mary and in My Sacred Heart. THIS REVELATION BELONGS TO OUR HEARTS. THUS I DESIRE THAT THIS REVELATION OF THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY AND OF THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS BE RECOGNIZED, so that each one of you, my People, might cry out:THY KINGDOM COME! at every instant, however difficult the instants may be, because Our Hearts will keep beating with My People.

    David defeated Goliath with a sling. My People will triumph with My Love and by the Hand of My Mother.



    Pray, My children, pray for the suffering of France, England and Spain, they will be surprised by terror, and Nature will scourge them.



    Pray, My children, pray for Venezuela, pain increases. The earth shakes.



    Pray, My children, pray for Costa Rica, violence looms. The earth shakes because of its volcanoes.



    Pray, My children, pray for Japan, it suffers, its land shakes, the water is stirred up.



    Pray children, pray for the Middle East, it moved violence against humanity, peace is not peace, man suffers.



    I WILL SEND MY HELP TO THIS PEOPLE OF MINE, MY ANGEL OF PEACE WILL COME AND LOVE YOU WITH MY LOVE. HE WILL FIGHT EVIL AND SHAPE MY WORD IN YOUR HEARTS.



    My people, how many martyrs at this instant!



    Do not become used to the pain of your neighbor, stand in unity, in fraternity, in charity, in respect towards one another, do not raise your hand against your brother or sister, or use the tongue as a double-edged sword.



    My People, I desire in this instant especially, when evil has taken possession of so many human beings, I desire that you receive the Holy Eucharist in the mouth.



    MY BODY AND MY BLOOD MUST BE TREATED WITH RESPECT; RECEIVE ME IN THE MOUTH, DO NOT TAKE ME IN THE HAND. YOU LET ME FALL WITHOUT NOTICING IT WHEN, AFTER RECEIVING ME IN YOUR HAND, THE PARTICLES OF MY SACRED BODY FALL ON THE FLOOR WHEN YOU LOWER YOUR HANDS CARELESSLY AND THROW ME TO THE GROUND. THIS IS NOT BECAUSE THE HAND IS NOT WORTHY OR PART OF THE BODY, BUT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO TREAT ME AND IGNORE THE VALUE OF A SINGLE PARTICLE OF MY SACRED BODY.



    My People, I am the Shepherd who does not neglect the details of His Flock, I anticipate and warn you so that you do not make careless mistakes.



    When you repent of your sins, I see you as for the first time, and I love you more.



    Do not fear because of what is to come, fear offending me.



    My Mother does not leave you. Have faith, at this instant each one of My People has his or her load. Some suffer for those who live in sin; others, for the dying so that they might repent; others, for those who do not recognize their errors; others, for those who do not want to change and persist in sin. Each one of you is like a finger of the hand; all play a role, but all belong to Me. I lead you, I AM YOUR LORD, "I AM WHO I AM" (Ex 3:14).



    My blessing is with each one of you: in the Name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.



    Your Jesus.



    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
     
  12. Aug. 9 2016 Luz Message:

    THE INSTRUMENT'S COMMENTARY


    Brothers and Sisters:

    Divine Love does not delay in pouring itself out on those it loves. Let us seek reconciliation with the Father's House, this is necessary - always.

    BROTHERS AND SISTERS, THIS INSTANT IS THE INSTANT ...

    Humanity is living the instant prior to being examined by God ...
    Humanity is living the instant prior to being purified ...

    The hand of man rises with anger against man himself.

    Brothers and sisters, may whatever comes out of our heart, our mind, our will, be directed towards the Will of God.

    In this instant, we are called to act as children of God. Each person knows what he or she must do: whether to humble oneself, correct oneself in some particular way, accomplish works of mercy, fulfill a specific Commandment—everything we act or work to maintain union with the Father's House, IT IS WORTH ETERNITY.

    "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, so that he may exalt you in due time."
    (1 Peter 5:6)

    Amen.







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  13. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    I wish I knew what an "instant" meant in these messages. It appears to be a finite measure of time. Not that I am looking forward to the experience of the Warning, but I am really being closed in on in a big way, and am facing an almost insurmountable challenge that has been staved off for the last four years by divine intervention and prayer. It is like being squeezed in a giant press, and it is hard not to fear loss of love, and anxiety begins to rule.

    If Charlie is genuine and is correct about the collapse of civil and political order leading up to the end of the Year of Mercy, and if Luz de Maria is genuine and we ARE in the final "instant" prior to the Warning, then I am somewhat comforted by the realization that we are at the end of the age, leading to the new era (of peace), or as some call the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, or others call the seventh day rest of the church. (Though I know the end of this age brings the crucifixion of the Body, the Church).

    I have great hope and trust in Jesus, Mary, the Saints, and the Holy Angels. Yet, while I try to offer all of my joys, works, sufferings and prayers daily (using a daily offering similar to the one Glenn promotes from Garabandal), I do pray for signs and discernment of these things, and for the ability to recognize their true voices from heaven...
     
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  14. Jon, what you have written sounds very reasonable.
     
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  15. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    To me, "Instant" in Luz de Maria's messages means this "moment". It means we are in the 'season' and not something in the distant future. Just as we are in the 'instant' of Easter season when Lent begins. As Lent progresses Good Friday comes and that moment is approaching for our earth in great speed now.
     
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  16. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Same, I could have written this post except it's 3 years not 4. God bless.
     
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  17. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    "Ignore the v
    "...Ignore the value of a single particle of my sacred body..."

    Something wrong here my friends. The Sacred consecrated host is Christ whole and entire. When it is broken into pieces however many that can be discerned we are not talking here about bits of body here and there. Nor are we talking about multiple Christ's. Very ambiguous and at worst theologically erroneous
     
  18. I believe that is clarified when He says "You let ME fall" and "WHEN YOU LOWER YOUR HANDS CARELESSLY AND THROW ME TO THE GROUND".
     
  19. Dean

    Dean Archangels


    This!!!! I could have written this. I am in the same situation. Im feeling trapped with problems that I have been fighting off, but not sure how to keep doing so except hoping prayers keep getting answered
     
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  20. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Aw. Jon and Dean, I don't think Charlie is saying the collapse will definitely come by the end of this year. I think he says the outcome of the USA elections will not be business as usual. But how and why that will happen is known only to God. We all await January 2017 to confirm Charlie's predictions.

    I wonder if the Warning will come by the end of the year after the Holy Doors year of Mercy ends; but God does things in His time, not ours. And I wonder if we need to experience a lot more floods and disruptions before more people are brought to their knees. Are we seeing that yet. I just wonder.

    Hold on and keep on hoping and trusting in God. Your trust is a wonderful way to atone for the sins of our time; and God knows it is a challenge to hold on if we are honest with ourselves.
     
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