If You Can’t Say Anything Nice…

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  1. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    If this is the case, then why is he is he constantly making a point to act and make statements that are not aligned with the CDF. If anything because time is short he would be making a strong case for prayer and repentance that are aligned with the CDF. Telling people its ok to use Contraception and declaring most Sacramental Marriages invalid is hardly a way of saving the masses. Telling Priests that they can absolve sins without hearing an actual confession does not help the Soul who needs absolution.
     
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  2. Harper

    Harper Guest

    Fatima,

    One big problem for me is the confusion surrounding his words. Sometimes I am not sure what point he is making, and that is not good as the Pope should be our Explainer-in-Chief. The subsequent clarifications that the Vatican have had to put out bolster an impression of disarray at the top. At a time when so many things are confused, it would be far better to have the reassuring image of the Vicar of Christ speaking in a measured way. Can we at least agree that giving off-the-cuff statements on airplanes hasn't been a good communications strategy?
     
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  3. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Confusion, yes. From our Pope himself, yes. Now what does one do with it??? Do you enter into it yourself is the question. And by entering into it relentlessly, to what end? Who are you convincing? Is a person going around ones own church and circle of life riling everyone up, even the 95% of them that haven't a clue what is even going on? Seems to me the few that care are preaching to the choir. Look, who in ones own circle of life is even concerned about what the Pope has said? Who is one convincing that our way of thinking is right, when most everyone around is could care less? We know it is not good communication strategy, but WHO CARES but a very small sector of the body of Christ?

    My simple point is this. Jesus and Mary are asking for prayer warriors at this time. Ones willing to fast and pray. Defend and teach the faith when it is apparent you are instructing the ignorant, but to preach to the small choir that already understands the notes are not in tune is beating a dead horse. In my personal world, I have only found a few who have concerns and needed guidance. There is probably no one on MOG that does not know and understand the confusion, so coming on here, preaching to the choir, is of no avail. We lost good faithful, prayerful, educated Catholics on the MOG forum for relentless attacks on our Pope. A real 'black eye' in the spirit of the forum. What is left in almost every thread is a depressing negativism. Is this the will of the Mother of God? If it is, then all of prophecy, approved and alleged, is wrong when it tells us that we are to take this to prayer and fasting and penance. Take care of our own house first. Preach to ones own children, relatives and friends first. But most importantly, know that and prayer is most essential within the storm then trust and don't worry, cause God has a plan through it all.
     
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  4. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    "If You Can’t Say Anything Nice…" and "Turn the Other Cheek" are tired and over-used "catch-phrases" that have been abused and manipulated by those who despise Traditional Christians and other People of Faith. Folks who have been silenced by the Sweet-n-PC Sheeple "Leaders" in our Church and once conservative political politicians. This Kumbaya "If You Can’t Say Anything Nice…" and "Turn the Other Cheek" BS, these past 50 years has given us (USA) 55 MILLION Abortions, empty pews, Lavender Seminaries, $$$ BILLIONS paid out to abuse victims/lawyers, Marriage "On the Rocks, Urban Waste Lands and Christendom in a Graveyard Spiral!
    Ya better WTFU or some guy yelling Allah Akbar will cut your head off or .. probably worse .. some PC Gubermint "authority figure" will dump your Sheeple carcass in a FEMA Re-Education Camp!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
  5. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I think a few of us are getting it. The battle isnt in the Vatican, its in our own house. Many on MOG are affecting many souls by their banter. What is the number 1 thing that God, the Pope and the Church is calling us to do. They are calling us to the sacraments. They are calling us to prayer, They are calling us to fast. They are calling us to JESUS. All this Pope being a heretic...is not helping your soul or the souls that read this forum. This has nothing to do with holier then though or righteousness. I think the new French Martyr will be a wake up call and a rallying cry. May God forgive me if im wrong...but we didn't start these crusades but it has just been declared by the blood of this priest.

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  6. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    For a truly genuine guaranteed next step, and in respect to the heading on this post I would like to share the following true testimony.

    After vision of Christ, Nigerian bishop says rosary will bring down Boko Haram

    By Alan Holdren


    Rome, Italy, Apr 21, 2015 / 02:44 am (CNA/EWTN News).- A Nigerian bishop says that he has seen Christ in a vision and now knows that the rosary is the key to ridding the country of the Islamist terrorist organization Boko Haram.

    Bishop Oliver Dashe Doeme says he is being driven by a God-given mandate to lead others in praying the rosary until the extremist group disappears.

    “Towards the end of last year I was in my chapel before the Blessed Sacrament… praying the rosary, and then suddenly the Lord appeared,” Bishop Dashe told CNA April 18.

    In the vision, the prelate said, Jesus didn’t say anything at first, but extended a sword toward him, and he in turn reached out for it.

    “As soon as I received the sword, it turned into a rosary,” the bishop said, adding that Jesus then told him three times: “Boko Haram is gone.”

    “I didn’t need any prophet to give me the explanation,” he said. “It was clear that with the rosary we would be able to expel Boko Haram.”

    The bishop said he didn’t want to tell anyone, but “felt that the Holy Spirit was pushing him to do so.”

    He started with the priests of his diocese, and then told participants in the April 17-19 #WeAreN2015 congress in Madrid, Spain. The event is being sponsored by the Spanish Catholic sister groups hazteoir.org and CitizenGo to gather ideas on how to preserve the Christian presence in nations where they are most persecuted.

    Bishop Dashe leads the Diocese of Maiduguri, in northeastern Nigeria's Borno State. In 2009, there were around 125,000 Catholics under his guidance. After a surge in violence from the Islamist extremist group called Boko Haram, today “there are only 50 to 60 thousand left,” he said.

    Most of those who fled sought safer areas in other parts of Nigeria, he said. Some of the same families are now returning home as armed forces from Nigeria, Chad and Cameroon liberate their homes.

    In 2014, Boko Haram became known worldwide when members kidnapped nearly 300 girls from a school in Borno State. On March 7, 2015, five suicide bombers killed 54 and wounded nearly three times as many in the capital city of Maidaguri, where the bishop lives and works.

    The group has killed 1,000 people across Nigeria in the first three months of 2015, according to Human Rights Watch, which reports that more than 6,000 have died in Boko Haram-led violence since 2009.

    Just last month, the group pledged its allegiance to ISIS – also known as the Islamic State – which launched a bloody campaign in Iraq and Syria last summer.

    Meanwhile, Bishop Dashe has just completed a “consolation tour” to communities in his diocese, promoting forgiveness and continued faith. He believes he was asked by Jesus to spread devotion to the rosary in order to aid them as they do so.

    “Maybe that’s why he did it,” said the bishop, referring to Jesus in his vision.

    Bishop Dashe said he has a strong devotion to Christ’s mother, and that “I never joke with ‘Mamma Mary.’ I know she is here with us.”

    And he is not the only Nigerian bishop putting the future of the country in the hands of Mary. The nation’s bishops’ conference has consecrated the country to her twice in recent years.

    Bishop Dashe believes that one day his diocese will completely recover and grow thanks to her intercession.

    “These terrorists… think that by burning our churches, burning our structures, they will destroy Christanity. Never,” Bishop Dashe told several hundred people from the dais of the #WeAreN2015 congress.

    “It may take a few months or a few years … but ‘Boko Haram is gone.’”

    He later told CNA that “prayer, particularly the prayer of the rosary, is (what) will deliver us from the claws of this demon, the demon of terrorism. And of course, it is working.”
     
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  7. Light

    Light Guest

    Fatima

    When confusion is sewn ambiguously and apparently deliberately so, into papal documents, that has a very significant negative impact on the Faithful; it must be counter-balanced in the public forum, surely?. When the person Card Schonborn is the "go to man" on AL and apparently he is the author of the revised Catechism which BrianK noted contained very many errors, and he has now stated the AL is Magesterial and binding how can any Catholic not be concerned? I have had my own reservations about this Cardinal, but if I had not read BrianK post I may have not seen how precarious a place our Church is apparently going.

    I believe that a lot of people are full of consternation and are looking for help. I suspect that many look to MOG forum for enlightment.

    God Bless
     
  8. Heidi

    Heidi Powers

    Love without truth is also cruelty.
     
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  9. davidtlig

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    Love without truth is actually impossible.
     
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  10. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    I understand but I would say that love cannot be love without truth. It's just a lie. Unless of course the lack of truth is due to ignorance, accidental mistake or genuine misunderstanding. Human love is imperfect. Only God's love is perfect.
     
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  11. Heidi

    Heidi Powers

    I agree with that.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think the Pope stand in the same place as Moses or Father Abraham. So I can see where grace comes in.
     
  13. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    I am still waiting on Fallen Saint to demonstrate to me where my remarks about Grace are off.
     
  14. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    If you don't see it...then I am sorry.

    Brother al
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well I think you touched on the most profound mystical reality

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  16. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    hahaha... such a lame excuse. My guess is that you can't because there is nothing "off" about my comments on Grace coming from the Father.
     
  17. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Grace comes from God.

    Just let it go.

    Brother al
     
  18. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    According to Our Lady at Garabandal there will be theaters of war but no actual WWIII as we had with WWI and II with clear sides. This assurance was repeated several times. Of course you are free to accept or reject this.
     
  19. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    I pray its true
     
  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Light... much, much, much worse things are coming then what you mentioned in your post. Will you disown your faith, when instead of a sprinkling of error, the whole Church collapses with the attacks that are coming and becomes very small as Pope Benedict prophecized? One can be fully aware of what is going on and take it to prayer and trust that ones prayer will bring victory far quicker than endless posts regurgitating the same information over and over again. For me, my faith is not shaken one bit. If one knows their faith you have nothing to fear in what others are saying. You will keep your peace of heart and yet be fully aware of what popes and prophecy has told us would come. When you are confronted by family, friends, co-workers on a doctrinal teaching then teach it with love and compassion as Jesus did. If/when rejected then shake the dust off your feet and move on, but keep the peace. We have the weapons to defeat error and it is the rosary and the scapular (our armor). "The church will become small and will have to start afresh more or less from the beginning. She will no longer be able to inhabit many of the edifices she built in prosperity. As the number of her adherents diminishes...she will lose many of her social privileges...As a small society, [the Church] will make much bigger demands on the initiative of her individual members…[​IMG]It will be hard-going for the Church, for the process of crystallization and clarification will cost her much valuable energy. It will make her poor and cause her to become the Church of the meek...The process will be long and wearisome as was the road from the false progressivism on the eve of the French Revolution — when a bishop might be thought smart if he made fun of dogmas and even insinuated that the existence of God was by no means certain...

    But when the trial of this sifting is past, a great power will flow from a more spiritualized and simplified Church. Men in a totally planned world will find themselves unspeakably lonely. If they have completely lost sight of God, they will feel the whole horror of their poverty. Then they will discover the little flock of believers as something wholly new. They will discover it as a hope that is meant for them, an answer for which they have always been searching in secret.

    And so it seems certain to me that the Church is facing very hard times. The real crisis has scarcely begun. We will have to count on terrific upheavals. But I am equally certain about what will remain at the end: not the Church of the political cult, which is dead already, but the Church of faith. She may well no longer be the dominant social power to the extent that she was until recently; but she will enjoy a fresh blossoming and be seen as man’s home, where he will find life and hope beyond death."--Pope Benedict XVI (Faith and the Future, 2009)
     
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