Yes, every country will suffer. The reason I cited France is that they have been so proud and arrogant about their form of secularism. Unlike the US Constitution which has an amendment meant to protect freedom of religion, the French version is designed to restrict religious observance to the privacy of home and place of worship. The French model is the one that most secularists strive for, yet after only 100 years of State imposed secularism France appears to have a lot of problems and they don't seem to have a viable solution. I think their economy is a bit iffy too, which doesn't augur well for the near future. I'm mostly curious about what way this Tribulation will manifest itself. Will it be civil strife, economic collapse, some kind of natural disaster or a mixture of all three - a perfect storm? Maybe I will start a Tribulation thread. Earlier, when reading Chapter 11 of St Paul to the Romans, I was struck by his warning that we not become haughty. We need to remember that, just as we were grafted onto the tree, God could graft others in our place should we fail to remain in His kindness.
Quote [As for the reported words of Mary "They are all my children", there is no reason why everything else be true but this false. If Our lady said "They are all my children" then she meant "They are all my children." She did not say "They are all God's children." She did not say they are all adopted children in the family of God. But from Her words it is clear that Mary sees all humanity as Her charge. She excludes no-one. There are those who are already fully and formally adopted and those still waiting for their place. Just so, God is waiting for his family to grow.] Oops I owe Our Lady and the forum an aplology for the above because by mistake I mis-quoted the Blessed Mother. When Conchita asked Her if it was ok for a Protestant to kiss a crucifix that She had kissed, we are told that Our Lady looked at the man and said "He too is my son" and caused the crucifix to be brought to his lips. Now that sounds more like Our Lady and less like Joe (AKA Old hothead)
I agree, the Catholic opponents to the work done by Tony Palmer and our Pope are those who base their faith on false prophecy about the antichrist and other nonsense like MDM. Its a bad situation and makes reading much material and a number of threads right here very disturbing and dangerous. The majority of devout Catholics in the world I believe are not letting their faith be guided by a number of anti-pope prophecies, are they then at a disadvantage? I guess when it comes to being "judged by love" those basing their faith on the true tenants of the Christianity and the Catechism will be in good shape.
Unity is surprisingly easy - as in the case of Anglicans. http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedi...n-xvi_apc_20091104_anglicanorum-coetibus.html
It's thanks to good old Bible believing Protestants here in the North of Ireland that we do not have abortion or 'homosexual' marriage and they vote against these abominations in votes in the Assembly. Of course it was the 'Catholics' who voted for them. http://www.christian.org.uk/news/new-dup-leader-marriage-is-between-a-man-and-a-woman/ Good for them. I have more in common with them than most Catholics I know. Read Mark Chapter 9 folks: “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.” Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.
"26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."
Charlie J. just posted this @ his TNRS site. It's written by one of The Regulars ... EllenChris: https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2016/01/10/betrayal-or-trust/ The post talks about Betrayal and how to deal with it. You don't get to be my age without being betrayed by somebody or some entity ... and falling short your ownself When I was still active duty AF, I attended and was quite active in a parish ..... well ... I couldn't help myself being a old military man ... I would often wonder if this/that Goody Two-Shoes-n- Know-It All Type would fold like a cheap tent when the SHTF? Be On-Guard and be aware of our weaknesses .... and remember how Jesus' Own folded like cheap tents on that Evil Day .... that turned into Glorious Redemption GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
Interesting...this morning I was reading the life of Christ by Fulton sheen. He was explaining that passage. Jesus called His mother woman, not Mary. Woman behold thy son. And then told John to behold His mother. By calling her woman she became the universal mother to all
The editorial responsibility belongs to our Pope? God help us! We can only hope that the next video in February can be a logical continuation of this towards the Truth. Something like, 'however, despite your confidence, there is only one road that leads to salvation, Jesus Christ'. And then he could speak about the mystery of the Holy Trinity in March. Or maybe not, but doesn’t matter because everybody will get really happy anyway. View attachment 4063
If I recall correctly, did He address her similarly at Cana (I could be wrong-had a couple of glasses of wine at lunch)!
On the 8th of January, a 68-year-old man, born in Rio Maior, Portugal, committed suicide early on Thursday with a shot inside the Basilica of the Holy Trinity in Fatima.
Jubilee of Mercy, But With the Confessionals Empty The shocking letter of a priest with the care of souls. Fewer and fewer penitents, and less and less repentant. The counterproductive effects of a “door” thrown open too wide
If, as I believe, the Warning comes in this Holy Year of Mercy, we won't need to extend it, as all who accept the Love and Mercy of our God at that moment will be ONE. There will only be one Church of faithful, as all other will be in the spirit of Antichrist.
Basto, I'm as sceptical as anyone of the way the message of mercy without repentance is being spun, but I think it very unfair to pin the state of the Church on the current Pope. Neither can all the blame be heaped on his recent predecessors. The sores have been festering for a long time, since way before Vatican 2. Out Lady didn't appear at Fatima nearly 100 years ago because everything was in good shape. Vatican 2 attempted to address problems that were already present in the Church. I can understand the frustration of the priest who wrote the letter. I don't understand the tone of the article. Why doesn't Sandro Magister just refer to the Pope as Pope Francis rather than calling him by his ordinary name? That's very disrespectful. We aren't obliged to like Pope Francis. We can disapprove of his style. We don't even have to agree with everything he says. As validly elected Pope - the Vicar of Christ, he is entitled to our respect. Mr. Magister comes across as being rather bitter. Just as Catholics are not flocking to the confessional during this papacy, Pope Francis didn't cause them to suddenly lose their faith. Fewer numbers at papal audiences likely have more to do with a fear of terrorism than the state of people's souls. We know that there will be a great apostasy. Some of us might not like the way Pope Francis is trying to make sure it doesn't happen on his watch, but nobody can accuse him of lack of effort.
My answer lies in this Encyclical. http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-x...ts/hf_p-xi_enc_19280106_mortalium-animos.html
I don't know if any of you ever read the famous sermon by St Leonard of Port Maurice , entitled: 'The Little Number of Those Who Are Saved' : https://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/fewness.shtml It is more than a little of an eye opener becuse here the saint says, quite specifically that the mjority of souls including Catholic are damned, not only this but that the majority of the saints and Fathers of the Church who spoke on the matter agree on this: https://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/fewness.shtml 'Note well that there is no question here of the human race taken as a whole, nor of all Catholics taken without distinction, but only of Catholic adults, who have free choice and are thus capable of cooperating in the great matter of their salvation. First let us consult the theologians recognized as examining things most carefully and as not exaggerating in their teaching: let us listen to two learned cardinals, Cajetan and Bellarmine. They teach that the greater number of Christian adults are damned, and if I had the time to point out the reasons upon which they base themselves, you would be convinced of it yourselves. But I will limit myself here to quoting Suarez. After consulting all the theologians and making a diligent study of the matter, he wrote, "The most common sentiment which is held is that, among Christians, there are more damned souls than predestined souls." Add the authority of the Greek and Latin Fathers to that of the theologians, and you will find that almost all of them say the same thing. This is the sentiment of Saint Theodore, Saint Basil, Saint Ephrem, and Saint John Chrysostom. What is more, according to Baronius it was a common opinion among the Greek Fathers that this truth was expressly revealed to Saint Simeon Stylites and that after this revelation, it was to secure his salvation that he decided to live standing on top of a pillar for forty years, exposed to the weather, a model of penance and holiness for everyone. Now let us consult the Latin Fathers. You will hear Saint Gregory saying clearly, "Many attain to faith, but few to the heavenly kingdom." Saint Anselm declares, "There are few who are saved." Saint Augustine states even more clearly, "Therefore, few are saved in comparison to those who are damned." The most terrifying, however, is Saint Jerome. At the end of his life, in the presence of his disciples, he spoke these dreadful words: "Out of one hundred thousand people whose lives have always been bad, you will find barely one who is worthy of indulgence."' I think most modern Catholics who hear such a thing would at once and without a second thought reject this notion , that only a few are saved. It militates totally against our modern Catholic Culture. I have not, for instance since childhood ever heard a priest preach a sermon on either hell or the devil or damnation ; although when I was young they used to preach on this subject all the time. But I have kind of idly been thinking on this lately ( and yes I remember we discussed this on the Forum at length. I am inclined to be of the opinion (for how can I really know, it is only an opinion ) that St Leonard and the Fathers of the Church are right and indeed few are saved. Well one passage in the Catholic Cathechism comes to mind, which quoting the Doctor of the Church St Alphonsus Ligouri: "Whoever prays is certainly saved. He who does not is certainly damned. All the blessed (except infants) have been saved by prayer. All the damned have been lost through not praying. If they had prayed they would not have been lost. And this is, and will be their greatest torment in hell: to think how easily they might have been saved, just by asking God for His grace, but that now it is too late - their time of prayer is gone." - St Alphonsus Liguori, doctor of the Church I think all I can do in answer to this is to ask myself the question about those whom I work with. Do I think they pray? Well to be frank I think very few of them pray , Protestant or Catholic. Young or old. But how can I say such a thing? We cannot read me's hearts! Well it is a little like this . If you love football you will naturally talk about it quite a lot, if you love cooking , if you love cars, if you love ballet what ever. If you love God and if you love Him you will pray, believe me. I ahve know these people more then nine years now, rarely mention God and if they do happen to it is not a loving context it is in a remote objective context. How could people not talk of that which they love? It is impossible. So no with perhaps a few execptions I don't think they pray and yes I suspect the large majority are in fact damned. But I know most who read the wil lroll tehir eyes and throw their hands in the air and so...it just goes so against the Catholic Spirit of our times. But you know I think what I write here, which is in agreement with the Fathers of the Church and many Catholic saints is in line with what Jesus said about the narrow gate: Matthew 7:13 The Narrow Gate 13"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. Another thing pushes me to agree was the apparition at Fatima in which Our Lady talks of hell and the numebers who are going there. "Pray, pray a great deal and make many sacrifices, for many souls go to Hell because they have no one to make sacrifices and to pray for them. " (Fatima in Lucia's Own Words) Anyhow I mention this because I think the current culture in the Church seems to be that there is no hell and if there is no one really goes there. Personally , looking at the world around me I think the majority of souls are destined to hell, because they simply are not praying. I think we are all being seduced awhat is a seductive lie that all or most men will be saved no matter their religion or state of soul I am afraid this is not so. View attachment 4065
"And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven." Then: "And Jesus looking on them, saith: With men it is impossible; but not with God: for all things are possible with God. " (both from Douay-Rheims). I assure you, I don't believe in universalism, but even St. Jerome had the qualifier "have always been bad"-how many souls fit that bill? I find it hard to believe that Our Lord died to save one in a hundred thousand. That, to me, almost veers towards blasphemy in another sense (and St. Jerome didn't really say this). On the other hand, the fear of Hell is a vital quality for the saving of souls. We don't know. Allowances must be made for a few generations of people who have been subjected to a barrage of satanic propaganda and brain-washing via a media-communications complex never before known. Satan has, according to Leo XIII's terrible vision been given a free hand for a century. One can assume that this is all part of God's plan for the evil one's final defeat. I suspect that God is well aware that men are facing unprecedented challenges and that His perfect Justice will weigh all this.
While it is true that many of the Church Fathers were of the opinion that many are not saved, it is also true that the Church officially teaches that we don't know who is or is not saved and that only God is capable of Judging a soul at the moment of death.
