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  1. Irish priest asks for back-up as demand for exorcisms rises 'exponentially'

    Dublin, Ireland, Jan 24, 2018 / 11:08 pm (CNA).- An Irish priest and exorcist is asking the country's bishops for more support after noticing a dramatic increase in demonic activity in the country.

    In a recent interview with The Irish Catholic, Fr. Pat Collins said he has been overwhelmed with the number of requests for exorcisms from the faithful in Ireland. In an open letter, he has urged the Irish bishops to train more priests to deal with the demand.

    “(I)t’s only in recent years that the demand has risen exponentially,” Collins told The Irish Catholic.

    Collins’ comments are on par with those of other exorcists throughout the world, including the International Association of Exorcists (IAE), a group of 400 Catholic leaders and priests, which has reported a dramatic increase in demonic activity in recent years.

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  2. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

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    Q has repeatedly posted about the level of brazen stupidity of these people. It is really arrogance. Many of them believe that they simply could not be held accountable because they quite literally were involved intimately with the most powerful people and governments in the world with levels of control being absurd, stretching all the way to our courts and Judges. They had possession of the keys to the kingdom so to speak.
    I think it is plausible because human nature can be quite predictable specifically in its pursuit of self interest. This makes this very thing possible in fact, because people are quite easily manipulated when turned inward. Consider the degrees of Masonry as an example. Only those at the uppermost levels truly understand the goals and are shrouded in mystery. Those under them are being used via their self interests even those which are benign. At the lowest levels it can even be called good. Look at all they do for children. This is the only publicly revealed face we are presented with. Leading people to think good tidings of such a group. It is the first line of defense.

    I also think that for many people it is very hard to fathom and comprehend the depths of evil that some are capable of. I actually hesitate to call them people. When one has eyes opened to it this leads to a very dark place. It is much easier to simply deny its existence.
    This is why the disclosure is slowly coming to light.
    One has to wonder, hind sight being what it is; one of the first things done when Trump took office was to begin dismantling the Child sex/human trafficking rings and arresting those responsible. MS13 arrests have skyrocketed. Who is MS13 really? They are the street level soldiers of vile and evil groups of people. The media willfully ignores this.
    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia arrested a massive number of Princes directly after Kushner made an unannounced secret trip to the Kingdom, the most notorious of which was directly involved with both Obama's rise and securing of power. Resulting in a huge source of funding drying up literally overnight. There are no coincidences.
    When the Kingdom of SA arrested these Princes it was estimated that 3000 children were removed from sex slavery as a result. Princess Amira Bint Aidan Bin Nayef talked openly about this.

    I think we will see proof of these things which Q has said emerging. It will take time and we will have to remain patient and vigilant because the source of this information is not the channels which we have known in the past. In some cases we will see the results of the battle before we may even understand the problem. I think we are only seeing a very limited amount of it in fact and that a great deal more will come to light involving many which we have intimately trusted.
     
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  3. What on EARTH makes you think I supported Clinton?
    I voted for a third party candidate who was also detestable, but who had no hope of winning. I suppose I could have just refrained from voting for a presidential candidate altogether, but this way, I was able to vote against both Clinton and Trump!
     
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  4. Josephite, I agree with you 100%. Abortion IS the greatest social injustice, because in every other case, the victim at least has his life.

    My point, though, was that Garabandal spoke as though "social justice" itself is a bad thing, simply because the Left appears to support it, and that is an ad hominem fallacy.

    But moving along....the thing that the Left doesn't seem to get is that Abortion is the ULTIMATE social injustice.
    Liberal support for abortion is hypocrisy, a betrayal of Liberalism itself : the main tenet of liberalism is that the strong and the wealthy should uphold the poor and the weak. Modern "liberals" claim to be are all in favor of that idea, until you reduce the model to its simplest and purest form - a mother and her unborn child.
    Who could be weaker and more dependent than an unborn child, and the ONLY one who can uphold that child and ensure his survival is his mother...and yet when you present this situation to a modern "liberal", their whole tune changes - all of a sudden they are all about defending the individual right of the STRONG (the mother) to pursue her own self- interest, although to do so costs the WEAK (her child) his or her very life!
    That's why no true liberal could ever support abortion...and that's why today's "liberals" are no true liberals!
     
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  5. garabandal

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    Can you define social justice?

    I mean what do you understand it to mean?
     
  6. In a nutshell, making sure people who can't adequately care for themselves have the necessities of life - basic food, shelter, and medical care; making sure there are laws in place to prevent the strong from preying upon the weak and running over them roughshod; making sure all children have access to a quality education, regardless of where they live; preventing discrimmination based upon race, religion, and nationality - things like that.

    I guess social justice also extends to making sure that people can exercise their rights, but only insofar as they are able to do so without trampling upon other people's rights.
    To put that into perspective, if "Jack" is a homosexual, he should be able to live his life without having to worry that someone will lynch him or burn him out of his house for being gay, BUT if "John" runs a bakery and is a Christian, he shouldn't be forced to make a "wedding" cake for "Jack"!
    Similarly, if "Jane" is an unwed mother who cannot afford adequate housing and medical care, the public dole should provide for her and her children until she can provide for herself again, BUT if "Jane" is pregnant with "Sue", "Jane" should not be allowed to kill "Sue", but should be obliged to give life to her until "Sue" can be born and someone else can care for her!
     
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  7. Dolours

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    All commendable. If they were the answer to the evil that is abortion there would be no abortions in Scandinavia and the other rich European countries. Also, basic standard is relative to so many other factors that there can never be any stage where the required basic is met, hence it shouldn't be used to deflect from the fact that abortion is always evil.
     
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  8. Don_D

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    Agreed, these are all things which are part of the social contract if you will. That we honor and care for each other even when we may be obliged to not be too thrilled about it on a personal level.
    In this day however, people do not care for this. A great many have no love of others or charity in their hearts. The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are not manifest in them. They despise the weak and the widow or in our day the single mother or disabled person because of the burden it places on society at large.
     
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    I'm lost in this debate.
    Is someone arguing FOR abortion here?
     
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    I don’t think so. I hope not.
     
  11. Dolours

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    No, more along the lines of putting it on a par with a lack of social justice or taking the focus off it until some unspecified social justice standard is achieved. That's a deflection from the intrinsic evil of abortion and has been used by pro-choice people to justify keeping abortion legal. It found its way into the Catholic narrative through Soros funded and Podesta linked Catholic Spring groups. They accuse pro-lifers of being merely "pro-birth" because the pro-lifers won't compromise on the right of every human being to be born. Someone here has actually used that "pro-birth" term.

    Abortion is an intrinsic evil. An acceptable standard of living is a relative term. We only have to look at rich countries to see that no matter how high the standard of living, "pro-choice" people will always use poverty or social disadvantage to keep abortion legal. I have never met a pro-life activist who is opposed to people being lifted out of poverty. I have met more than enough "social justice warriors" who support abortion right up to the ninth month of pregnancy.
     
  12. I'm wondering the same thing. People seem to be assuming that I'm pro-abortion - I'm NOT! - and I guess they think that because I originally stated that Pro-Life means defending ALL life, born and unborn alike.
     
  13. And I'm not one of those people that you've met, Dolours, but I seem to have to keep reiterating that.
    Simple logic dictates that the right to life is the most fundamental human right.
    EVERY human has the right to be born - without that right, the rest of the goals of social justice are meaningless - what good are human rights if you aren't alive to enjoy them?
     
  14. Exactly.
     
  15. Dolours

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    I'm very relieved to hear it. There can be no "buts" for any Catholic when it comes to the issue of abortion. No "but what if the mother is poor"; no "but what if the child will be disabled"; no "but what if the mother is young"; no "but what if...........(insert whatever is the new hard case to support bad law)".

    Pro-life is the chosen description of people who speak for the voiceless children who are the target of the money making abortion industry. It's an insult to claim that they are merely "pro-birth" if they don't share your view of how to address poverty and social or racial disadvantage.
     
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    All rights come from above from God. The most fundamental right is the right to life itself. The right to life is the bedrock of civilized society. Therefore, societies that tolerate abortion are not civilized.

    Social Justice cannot be imposed by governments because that becomes oppression. There can be no social justice without economic freedom and the right to private property:

    Let me quote the Catechism:

    Social justice can be obtained only in respecting the transcendent dignity of man. The person represents the ultimate end of society, which is ordered to him:

    Respect for the human person entails respect for the rights that flow from his dignity as a creature. These rights are prior to society and must be recognized by it.

    The seventh commandment forbids unjustly taking or keeping the goods of one's neighbor and wronging him in any way with respect to his goods. It commands justice and charity in the care of earthly goods and the fruits of men's labor. For the sake of the common good, it requires respect for the universal destination of goods and respect for the right to private property.
     
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  18. Dolours

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    Then if they had been baptised Catholic they were at best lapsed Catholics because no Catholic, from the Pope to the most insignificant pew-sitter, can claim to be so while denying the fundamental right to life or the obligations of the corporal works of mercy. The right to life is an inherent right coming direct from the Holy Spirit, the giver of all life. Prudence has a role in our obligations to do the corporal works of mercy.
     
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