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Peres invites Pope Francis to Jerusalem

Pope Francis arrives for his weekly general audience at St Peter's Square on April 24, 2013 at the Vatican. Israeli president and Nobel peace laureate Shimon Peres has invited the pope on an official state visit to Israel after a meeting in the Vatican.
AFP - Israeli president and Nobel peace laureate Shimon Peres invited Pope Francis on an official state visit to Israel after a meeting in the Vatican.
"I am expecting you in Jerusalem. Not just me but all the people of Israel," Peres said in English to the pope at the end of their 30-minute meeting.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130430-peres-invites-pope-francis-jerusalem

 

I don't understand this...am I right in saying that if the Pope goes to Jerusalem and, God fobid, he dies there, this shows that he is not the anti-pope that some keep saying he is? or does it mean he is the anti-pope?

I hpe he does not go to Jerusalem at all. I think he is great and I hope he declares the Blessed Virgin co-redemptrix - that will certainly shut up all those who are against him - although they would probably be against that too.

one thing I often think about is how Catholics who says this get Mass, feeling as they do about him. When the Priest prays for the Pope during Mass, I wonder who they think is being prayed for.

 

I too keep checking MDM's messages to see how she now explains away all the good fruit this Pope is revealing in himself. I'm still waiting for her to explain why all her prophecies from 2010 and 2011 that were "weeks" away have never come true. I know I shouldn't look, but wondering when she will crash and burn. Especially since if you read the comments under her posts on facebook these people are becoming very violent to each other and anti Catholic, and talking like they are the only ones left to be saved.

 

I find if I go checking dubious sources of prophecy.. I lose my peace and when that goes, confusion takes its place.. and it's hard to pray with faith when one is confused..
One thing I do know.. is that I (we) need to be praying constantly.. but if I'm preoccupied with reading stuff from a source whose fruit is confusion and division because its root is a dark source.. then I neither have peace nor time to pray.

I may fool myself in thinking that it's no harm to read something which takes away my peace.. but to whom am I listening in the words I allow into my mind and subconscious mind.. and what do the scriptures say about my mind?
Phil 2:5 Make your own the mind of Christ Jesus
2 Cor 10:.. and we bring every thought into captivity and obedience to Christ.

 

I think you need to have a "10 foot pole" in your hand to touch either of these prophets....

Both MDM and LTTW have contained statements like this:

That statement in bold alone screams ignorance of the plan of salvation. Since the protoevangelium, the priesthood of Melchiezedek (King of Salem) breaking bread and wine, to Isaac carrying his own wood up the mountain, to the passover liturgy and re-enactment Tradition, God prepared the world for the laying down of the life of His Son in Jersalem (the New-Salem). Christ, then became the one high priest, in the order of Melchiezedek, who is both priest and sacrifice, the Lamb of God.

Jesus even told the disciples of the plan before His death and resurrection. Where is there room in salvation history for God to "intervene" in a reactionary fashion and "hope" that "all Israel would proclaim Me (Christ) as Messiah"? The plan was laid out for centuries and archetypes were constantly given so the Hebrews, and ultimately the Gentiles too, would discern the truth and see it in His Church.

 

I think this is self explanatory.

3. The Pope Dies in Jerusalem


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Feb 9th, 2011

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Jesus
The Church came forth from Israel, like a child begotten by a mother, but Israel began to reject her own child. The soil rejected the fruit it had brought forth. Then came the saddest time of all. Israel and the Church were separated. Now they stand as distinct groups. The mother has rejected her child and the soil has rejected the roots that should have stayed within it.
Peter was the apostle to the Jews and Paul always preached first in the synagogues. The word was preached and the roots tried to enter more deeply into the soil. However, they could not pierce its resistance. Without deeper roots, the plant could not stay long in its original soil.
However, when the darkness comes and Israel is in distress, there will be a new moment. The Pope, the head of the Catholic Church, will go to Israel in its darkest hour and lay down his life for Israel. The eyes of many Jewish people will be opened. They will say “We have been saved by the Catholic Church”. The soil will be open and receptive again to the original seed. My Church and my Jewish people will be joined as I have wanted them to be for centuries.
As the Church’s roots are placed once more into its original Jewish soil, the other divisions of the churches will be healed because they happened due to this first division of the Church from the Synagogue.
It will be clear to all the Christian Churches that there is a new call to unity, a call to unity at the roots and in the heart.
Churches will see what they have never seen and do what they thought they would never do. Seeing the union of Israel and the Catholic Church, they will say, “We must be one”. All the barriers to unity, put up over the many centuries, will be swept away in one breath of the Spirit.
There will be the ingathering prophesied by Isaiah. All the riches of the nations will come to Israel. This will be true wealth, the spiritual wealth of all the Churches gathering as one in Jerusalem with Israel and the Catholic Church. My prayer will be fulfilled, that all would be one as the Father and I are one.
Also, the world will see something quite different, what they have never seen. They will see the Churches united and all the Churches united with Israel. The world will experience a powerful call to come out of darkness. The Church and Israel will be a light to all nations. The light will not be lessened or covered over by divisions of the Churches or divisions between the Churches and Israel. The world will not be able to escape the invitation. The unity will stand before them inviting them to accept Me as Lord.
Comment: This is extraordinary. The sacrificial death of the Pope leads to a full union between Israel and the Catholic Church which leads to a reunion of all of Christianity, planted again in the soil of Israel. This greater witness will confront the world with a more powerful invitation to accept Jesus Christ as Lord.
Mary
A moment will come when I will take my beloved son, the Pope. I will walk with him to Jerusalem. For the second time I will go to Jerusalem to witness the death of a son.
When this happens the eyes of the Jewish people will see for the first time. They will see in the Pope’s death what the Catholic Church has done for them. There will be no mistake about which Church has blessed them, because it will have been done by the head of the Church and by the greatest of sacrifices. Israel will embrace the Catholic Church.
All Catholics will welcome Israel because all will have seen the decision of the Holy Father (the bishop dressed in white) to offer his life for Israel. The union between the Catholic Church and Israel will be a union of hearts brought about by the events that the whole world will have has seen and can never forget.
Comment: By the Pope’s death, Israel’s eyes will be opened to the Catholic Church and how Catholic hearts will be opened to Israel. Both happen from the same event.

 

These are electrifying words, and it won't be long before we discover whether this is genuine prophecy or merely theo-poetic imagination on overdrive. They are striking not least because the whole idea is so counter-intuitive. Whatever folks may think about LTTW, the Apostle Paul's words in Romans 11:25-26 are going to be fulfilled some day:
'I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come it. And so all Israel will be saved'

 

Peter...just out of curiosity...have you read the complete series of messages from locutions.org...and what is your gut feeling...do you feel they could be authentic? This is how I feel about all these various prophecies and I hope I'm not just harping. The most overused term used by visionaries is "soon"...I can't tell you how many times I've heard that term and the years progress without that "soon" ever happening. It can be fustrating at best...and my fustration to be frank can only be directed at God. What good is prophecy if we never see it to fruition and why so many differing versions and how come the prophet just can't speak plan English for us dumb folk...(yes I am the classic dumb ox). I know many false prophets have come to muddy the waters...but surely there is some prophecy that is true. The only one I know to pan out as prophesied is Fatima. I think Garabadal is true as well as Medjugore. These I keep on the radar screen...as for the others..."soon" never means "soon". Do you have any good council Peter?

 

I have read the complete set and yes, I think they could be authentic, although the jury's still out until events provide definitive confirmation of what is still an intuition at the moment. Like many, I was ready to put them aside after the 'long conclave' business, but I was forced to have a rethink once I realized that those words were an editorial heading and not integral to the alleged locutions themselves. What impresses me is the fact that, read from the beginning, there is a coherent spiritual pedagogy here underpinning everything which is very different from mere apocalyptic speculation. And given that it is now clear that there is definitely some damaging false prophecy in circulation at the moment in the English-speaking world, it would surprise me if there was not also the real McCoy out there somewhere as well dealing with the same topics. The question then is: if not LTTW, then where is it?

 

WHY do you need prophecies to start with? I think in the answer to this question lies the answer to your broader one as well...

 

Well...the way I see it...God has always used prophets in the Old and New Testaments. We are told not to despise prophecy but profit by it (spiritually). So...I think it is important to be open to whatever God wants to convey to us. In this time... at the end of this age... God sends us His mother. Mother Mary is a prophetess and has conveyed the Will of God to us. We should listen to her voice but unfortunately many satanic voices are trying to deceive or drown out her voice. It can be fustrating to be sure but this does not mean we should not use all of our faculties in seeking out the Will of God. We are here to help each other out in our pregnostications and God willing we will make our way in the midst fear, doubt, ridicule and confusion. Thankyou God for your prophets, may I be attentive to your will.

 

Looks like MDM was WRONG AGAIN !!! Pope Benedict has not FLED anywhere !
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/0...tican-to-live-side-by-side-with-pope-francis/

 

Poor woman.

 

who even knows if its a woman, I am seriously starting to believe that "image" of a woman is part of a cultish sceme.

 

Well she used to email me. But I wouldn't be the hardest person in the world to hood wink I suppose. But I do think it is a woman, a wife , mother and buisnesswoman from Dublin. In a sense she is the most deluded of all, far more then her followers, she believes all this stuff herself. I am afraid the devil is playing her like a violin, Glenn. Still God's justice over such matters is very strict, I believe. False prophecy is a terrible sin.


I hope she reads this and gets in touch again. It is never,ever too late with God. But God can and does get angry.....especially with stuff like this.

 

Well anyway God bless Glenn, good to see you posting again. I thought of Joey as I was walking the park just now. Bless you both.

Time for bed. God is very good.

What a beautiful day.

Prayers for all on the forum. Our Lady bless you all.

Good night.

 

God bless you too my friend, and this wonderful forum ! " In our Blessed Mother's Service". - Glenn

 

Thank you Padraig. And a blessed evening to you also.

 

Glenn, there is a recorded radio interview with 'Maria' on the internet. I heard it once when I had interest in her messages. Anyway, a woman was interviewed purporting to be the seer. She has a very 'D4' accent (Google D4 & all will become clear). My opinion is that this woman is a front for some sort of secret group intent of putting out dangerous messages with the sole intention of frightening & dividing Catholics...

 

Yes I understand what that means, I guess if youre a native of the country would more easily detect that. I'm positive she's a front for a group, its way too big for one person to organize all of this. Don't worry, the Warning will clear up a lot of "false prophets".