Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Beth, I have the greatest respect for you. I didn't think you were accusing anyone of anything. Your care for others shines through your posts.
     
  2. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    I'm catching up here as I haven't looked at this thread in 2 days. I have a few comments to make from my own observations.
    I have noticed that those who have taken the shot do not want to hear about any other treatment or narrative. They have bought in and they are incapable of questioning or changing their minds. Their arguments are contradictory and they will turn against you eventually. It is going to take something huge to wake them up. From our side the social contract is in tatters and I personally have lost trust and confidence in all the pillars of our society. The church which should have been the voice defending the sheep remains either silent or is cheerleading for the government's.
    We now have a mandate imposed on us here that all children from 9 years upwards have to wear masks. One of my grandsons won't wear it and his mom was called by the school principal to ask her to insist to her son that he had to comply. She told the principal that if he didn't want to wear it she would not ask him to, so now he is going to school mask less. One small victory but people need to stop complying. The bullies get away with so much. In Ireland I'm hoping that targeting the children will be a step too far.
     
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  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    In Dr. Mobeen's latest video he was excited over EUAs for Eli Lilly and AstraZeneca monoclonal antibody treatments. Aware that abortion derived cell lines aren't a deterrent for him, I did a search to see if there are any ethically produced monoclonal antibody treatments in the pipeline and I found that there appears to be one. According to this website, Tocilizumab has no fetal cell lines: https://cogforlife.org/frequently-asked-questions/
    According to the attached website, it received emergency use authorisation from the US FDA in June, 2021: https://paltc.org/publications/covid-19-eua-tocilizumab-monoclonal-antibody-product
     
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  5. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Yes Jason, I’ve read that could happen. I believed that the statistics I’ve read recently cites that your innate immunity is suppressed by 10% with each vaccine/ booster one receives. If one had the first two injections, they now have lost 20% of their innate immunity. If they then received a booster( essentially just another injection because the initial injections have worn off) , they have now lost another 10% innate immunity with a total loss of 30% of their total natural innate immunity.
    If they continue to get “ boosters” every 4 to 6 months, they will loss 10% innate immunity with each additional injection.

    If this series of injections continues, we will see not only AIDS proliferate, we will see heart, neurological, cancer, and any other number of medical health issues escalate in individuals whose natural, innate immunity that typically protects against diseases now unable to provide the level of protection that we need to stay healthy.

    I posted either a video or article on this earlier. If young children start getting this injection so early in life, their life expectancy will be severely diminished. How many folks even know this? Children whose risk factor for severe Covid is basically nothing will now be losing a portion of their innate immunity for life because they are pushing this experimental drug on these children who do not need them. I pity these poor parents who do not know any better because they are allowing this injection because they were led to believe that they are protecting their child. You cannot un ring this bell once these children are injected. Incredibly sad….and totally unnecessary. Why is this government pushing a experimental drug on a group of citizens that absolutely do not need it…..?
     
  6. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    That’s great news! This should be headline news….why did you have to dig for this…?

    The monoclonal antibody treatments have been around since trump was president, he actually used it. I personally won’t use it because of the fetal cell connection, but my question is why was this available treatment not offered to Covid positive patients early on. Most people are still unaware of it. When I tested Covid positive, my medical center did not offer it although they had it. They specifically told me they would not treat me until I had difficulty breathing…then I should come to the hospital. I asked for ivermectin and was refused. They said their facility was offering no therapies….none.
    Why if they had access to the monoclonal antibody treatments did they not offer it? We only discovered in a local news report that this facility actually has had the monoclonal antibody treatments all along.
    The questionable practices surrounding this just doesn’t end.
     
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  7. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Yes Jason. I just read a comment on a Covid video from a victim of a vaccine injury. The poor guy was forced to get the vaccine to keep his job. He then was injured from the vaccine and can’t get the second injection because of his “vaccine “ injury….and the company FIRED him. Now he had a vaccine injury, has a medical condition because of it and has now lost his job. Others made similar comments after he posted his. He ended his comment saying he is so demoralized and has no idea what to do…his life is ruined.
     
  8. andree

    andree Powers

    Well I have been reflecting on the value of Grace these days. In my youth, I heard about Grace all the time and never really understood what it meant because so many things were attributed to it and the definitions I was given seemed so nebulous to me back then. Now I see it differently, but lately as I see intelligent people literally change their stances in a few days, take positions that make no sense whatsoever I am thinking that Grace truly is a Rock from God that we can stand on and not waiver in the face of a storm. People who are "just" (pagans) or in a state of Grace (Christians) have something of God to help us. Those outside His Grace have nothing to fall back on except themselves and that leaves them open to the enemy and I think as God withdraws from our world (they have sent Him packing) people are left alone without Him if no one intervenes for them. I have heard friends and acquaintances say things that give me the eerie feeling that insanity is lurking and they could get pushed over the edge very easily. Hopefully for us all the Warning comes quickly because this isn't just happening in Rwanda but everywhere!
     
  9. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    A highly respected scientist shares statistics and facts countering the government’s prescribed protocol on Covid lockdowns, Covid death statistics, etc. He published a statement along with other notable doctors countering government norms and had numerous other scientists sign on to it….and others who said they agreed but were afraid to sign it for fear of losing their positions.

    This video is some real truth from a credible, intelligent doctor/ researcher. Worth the time:

     
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  10. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Renowned virologist warns of ‘collapse of our health system’ due to complications from COVID vaccines
    Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche warned of the damage being done to the immune systems of the vaccinated, and the inevitable grave consequences that would result.
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      Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, who once worked as a senior program manager for the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) and has been considered one of the most talented vaccine creators in the world, issued a video “Message to Austria” on November 20 to coincide with a large rally in Vienna opposing new lockdown measures.

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      As a first priority, he advised the public, “Never, Ever — allow anything, or anybody, to interfere or suppress your innate immune system,” which is the first line of defense human beings have to fight off all infections.

      According to Vanden Bossche, the “vaccine antibodies,” which are induced by the current COVID-19 vaccines, suppress innate immunity and they “cannot substitute for it” since they quickly wane in their effectiveness and cannot prevent infection or transmission of the virus.

      Thus, these experimental injections, in contrast to innate immunity, “do not contribute to herd immunity,” he said.

      Vaccinating children ‘an absolute no go!’

      This reality is most important in the case of children whose “innate immunity can easily be suppressed by vaccinal antibodies” since their “antibodies are so young and so naïve that they can easily be outcompeted by vaccinal antibodies,” he said.

      And since children are protected from many diseases by their innate immunity, including COVID-19, its suppression by these vaccines exposes them to many more dangers, and “could even lead to autoimmune diseases,” the expert warned.

      Therefore, injecting children with these biological agents “is an absolute no go!” the virologist said. “We cannot vaccinate our children with these vaccines.”

      Booster shots for the vaccinated ‘absolutely insane!’

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      Turning his attention to the adult “vaccinees,” those who have been vaccinated, the specialist in microbiology said the suppression of innate immunity has already shown itself to be a problem in this population. “They are indeed going to have a difficult time to control a number of diseases,” including COVID-19.

      Yet, since their innate antibodies have previously been trained through years of adapting and maturing, he said “they are usually more resilient to the vaccinal antibodies” than those of children.

      However, this resilience can be further deteriorated by additional shots, and thus Vanden Bossche warns that giving these jabbed individuals boosters “is absolutely insane! What this will do is just further increase the immune pressure of the vaccinal antibodies on their innate immunity.” Thus, booster shots are “absolute nonsense! It is dangerous and should not be done!”

      To the un-jabbed: ‘For God’s sake, stay unvaccinated!’

      As for the unvaccinated, the Belgian physician described why they would fare much better, first breaking them down into three categories:
      1. Those who have experienced no symptoms, who are “most likely simply protected by their innate antibodies;”
      2. Those who have experienced mild symptoms, not having to stay in bed for any time; and
      3. Those who recovered from the disease and may have even had a severe case of
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      Due to what he called the “high infectious pressure” of the Delta variant, the respective innate immunity systems of these unvaccinated may now have to struggle a bit more, and thus the first category may experience mild symptoms, the second, moderate, and the third may have “some higher susceptibility to some other diseases. For example, influenza or the common cold.”

      “But very, very importantly, all are protected,” he said. “They all are still protected against severe disease and the majority of them will be protected against very mild or moderate disease.”

      This is the case, especially, the virologist said, since COVID-19 “is not a disease of healthy people. People who are in good health have a healthy innate immune system that can deal with a number of respiratory viruses without any problem. These people are not only protected against the disease, but they can even in many cases prevent infection.”

      Vaccinees ‘serving as a kind of breeding ground for the virus’

      Therefore, in order to maintain their healthy innate immune system as protection against COVID-19 and many other diseases, Dr. Vanden Bossche offered the following three requirements to the unvaccinated:
      1. “For God’s sake, stay unvaccinated! They should stay unvaccinated;”
      2. “Take care of their innate immunity, meaning they should take care of their health … if you do this and you are unvaccinated, you will be spared from severe disease without any vaccine. On the contrary, the vaccine would do the opposite;” and
      3. Those with comorbidities or underlying diseases “should be careful about contacts.”
      For this third category of the more vulnerable, the physician said, “This is not to discriminate against the vaccinees, but [the un-jabbed] should especially avoid contact with vaccinees at this point in time.

      “Vaccinees are now the people, and there is no doubt about this, who are really serving as a kind of breeding ground for the virus,” he said. “We need to have an extra protection for those who have underlying diseases. Do not vaccinate them, but in fact prevent them from being exposed to high infectious pressure.”

      Health issues in the vaxxed ‘will inevitably lead to a collapse of our health system’

      He encouraged his Austrian listeners that the only fight they have is “the fight for your health, [in] not getting vaccinated.” In accomplishing this, all of the other measures will not be sustainable.

      Though he expressed great concern for “the vaccinees,” stating “we need to help them as much as we can because they will need extensive treatment in many cases,” he observed that the percentage of this group now being hospitalized “is now steadily increasing. Whereas more and more, with training of the innate immune system, with more exposure to the virus, more and more non-vaccinated people get protected.”

      “This will lead inevitably — and I am not a doomsday preacher — but this will inevitably lead to a collapse of our health system. It cannot be otherwise,” he said.

      ‘Strength is found in serenity’

      However, in closing, the virologist had a hopeful message, stating the lockdown measures “are not sustainable” and cannot last “for a long time.” He encouraged them to “stay calm,” sharing a German saying that translates, “Strength is found in serenity.”

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      Anti-lockdown scientists challenge theories of Geert Vanden Bossche, though vaccine ‘global catastrophe’ not ruled out
      EXCLUSIVE – Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’
      Ontario doctor resigns over forced vaccines, says 80% of ER patients with mysterious issues had both shots
      COVID shots intended to reduce world’s population by poisoning ‘billions’: South African doctor
     
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  11. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

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  12. sunburst

    sunburst Powers

    Yes, we have a natural God given immunity that impious scientists believe they have a right to interfere with. I was reading about DNA and how the so called vaccines affect the cells of the body,...
    DNA=(deoxyribonucleic acid) contains our genetic code, the blueprint for our biological existence, found in the nucleus of every cell in our bodies
    An enzyme enables the DNA to morph into RNA (ribonucleic acid) which can become mRNA, the messenger with instructions for the cell to make proteins.
    I was curious about the word deoxy and what it meant, and one of the meanings (although unscientific) is the word Deoxy-Deus which in Latin means God and Ribo -Rabbii means Teacher or Master
    My heart breaks for the poor children who will suffer from the madness
     
  13. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Don't celebrate yet. I was happy to read that the US authorities had actually approved a treatment that didn't have an input from the abortion business. My suspicious mind had me wondering whether that was the reason the approval came with so many more restrictions than Regeneron's treatment. I thought that maybe it could eventually be refined for use as an early treatment. After I posted that link, I discovered from more searching that it's a treatment initially used for Rheumatoid Arthritis. Reading posts from Carmel and Don over on the 'flu thread, my bubble is kinda burst. It's a minefield out there.
     
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  14. andree

    andree Powers

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  15. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Yes, the minds of those who have taken the shots are closed. It has been my experience that the mere suggestion of a problem with the jabs triggers a terrible wave of anger. I have a family member who thinks it's a good idea to send people off to quarantine camps to stop the spread of COVID. This is not rational behavior, it's as though you are dealing with someone who is suffering from a mental illness. I really wanted to ask them if they would be still be okay with this if the police hauled me off to such a camp, but I bit my tongue. At this point all I can do is pray for them. It's heartbreaking when children are targeted, here in the states they are moving forward with
    the jabs for younger children. Lord have mercy. :cry:
     
  16. andree

    andree Powers

    Next time, perhaps you can point out that he or any of his loved ones could well be subjected to this very treatment if they got the virus!
     
  17. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    True Andree.
     
  18. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

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  19. True, totally merciless...
     
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  20. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    This propaganda, that the unvaxxed are the problem of everything is rapidly spreading. This is how the Nazis began to demonize the Jews in Germany. They started a smear campaign against them blaming them for diseases, poor economy, etc. They were relentless. Gradually, the German people began to see the Jews as evil and the source of everything bad…and this is how they managed to get the German people to either ignore the murder of Jews or actually directly participate in their demise. I can see the ptb imploring this same method to turn otherwise rational citizens against the unvaccinated. Government officials are calling this virus the pandemic of the unvaccinated! It’s completely untrue, but with the cooperation of the msm, they are heading in the same direction as the Nazis….and otherwise good people are being systematically indoctrinated with these lies and manipulations against those who choose not to be vaccinated. Don’t believe that history can’t repeat itself….
     

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