Charlie's Perceptive Take

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  1. Pijon

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    Again, we could say the the "Last Christmas" sentence could be subject to different, personal interpretations. Some convincing, some not. A subjective matter.
    But, what will shortly follow starting from now (non-presidential elections), will have to really be seen by everyone all around the world, and personal interpretations won't count. It will be an objective event. This is why the next few months will be decisive, but I'm optimistic about the accuracy of what has been foretold to Charlie so far, as I previously said. Even if I would not bet on the end of all the evil in late 2017, but that's a different matter.
     
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    Could you please tell me the name of the seer in Maine.
     
  3. But that too has been mentioned, esp. by right wing groups, since Obama's re-election.....deliberately creating chaos in order to take control perhaps by martial law which seems pretty obvious with all of the unchartered illegals permitted across our border and sent out to who knows where parts of the country. Or, as that Natan's NDE outlined....Obama pulling something that would involve the nations of the world giving some type of excuse for invading Israel...something else that would interrupt the election process. But it's already out there for quite some time now.

    It's really not hard to imagine. There are also many messages now for some time about coming natural disasters in the U.S. that "would cause the political/election process to be 'static'". So what is Charlie's specific cause? It's the specifics that get murky with him and so any general type prediction is already covered by a lot of other people now for years.....just as people have expected something to occur at the end of that 100 year period since Fatima. So another general type of "rescue" could come in all kinds of ways be they subtle or strong....if you accept something that unspecific you could find something in just about anything that occurs then.
     
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    She has not permitted her messages to be posted on the internet, or else I would have provided the link.
     
  5. Pijon

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    As I already stated the previous week, Charlie is not the only one stating that something awful will interrupt the election process during the following months, but if nothing will happen, one will have to agree that he, among many others, would have proven to be wrong. Still, I think these elections won't happen, and that Charlie (and the others) will be right.
    But Charlie also provided other elements in his list of predictions:
    - The continued toppling of governments throughout the world, including that of the U.S. The toppling of a government does not mean the nation shall fall.
    - The collapse of global economy.
    - Attacks from the Muslim world (Muslim jihad).
    - Fall of political Islam.
    - Mass conversion of most Muslims.
    - Final attack from China, with Russia joining USA.
    - The coming of a man of orthodox beliefs (called "Menses"), who will deceive many.
    - A visible and miraculous rescue by the BVM.
    - 26 million of deaths as a result of the Storm

    all of this before late 2017. And, shortly after the Rescue:

    - Unification of the faithful into one flock under one shepherd.
    - Building and location of the Shrine of thanksgiving for the Rescue on Mount Meeker in Colorado.

    So, at some point, if all of this will really happen (in the specified time period), one will have to agree about the authenticity of the words given to Charlie. I've some doubts about the timings (for example, I'm sure that the long era of peace won't start in 2017), or about the fact that "only" 26 million will die as a result of the Storm, but I'm convinced that the first part of the described events will unfold just as Charlie prophesied.
     
  6. What exactly IS the "storm" in Charlie's scenario?

    Do all of these things happen in a vacuum or are they the result of heavenly intervention of the Warning .... which btw Charlie doesn't accept as presented by saints and mystics...even if one doesn't accept Garabandal's prophecies. And the fact that the Era of Peace cannot begin in 2017 (and I would say that that time, fulfillment of the Our Father and Divine Will, is quite THE biggie) negates nothing of the rest which pretty much is already out there within the daily following of the geopolitical news? And, um, that long prophesied mention of the coming "one sheepfold and one shepherd" is something new or current only? Should we then negate the many descriptions of old about the 2/3 of world's population disappearing because Charlie does not say such and "comforts" us with a number equalling about only 1/16 of just the U.S. population? I mean he's pretty much instructing his following that if they continue to expect anything like the universal Warning they shouldn't be surprised when they're shown they've (and those saints and mystics as well) just been on the wrong track. I think that's also a pretty big difference in even "sherpa" leadership! So really all you need for full acceptance of Charlie's quasi storm and rescue is just maybe a couple of those generalized coming attractions....not necessarily the specified numbers or exact dates. Looks like those can now be sacrificed to the "greater" overall cause....the anointment!
     
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    E2A,

    I'm not sure we will have the time to have a good chit chat about who was right and who was wrong in the coming months.

    Personally, I don't think anyone has the full picture and the reason is to keep us prayerful and trusting.


    It is the messages of prayer we should be listening to.
     
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    The request of prayers is the most important part in a message, indeed. But, even some nice folks like MDM ask you to pray in every message, and you know of what kind of messages we are talking about. This is not the case of Charlie, of course. What I want to point out is that, if someone makes precise statements, it would be necessary to consider the whole message, because that is part of the prophetic mission. To cite 1 Thessalonians 5:

    19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 reject every kind of evil.

    Charlie has the vital task of spreading the Word of God to the world, and it also includes the prophetic part. He has been explicitly asked to do so, as stated by himself in more than one occasion. Thus, like everyone else, he will be "judged" on the whole task. It has always been so, with any seer. I believe in what he says and I give him my support, even if I disagree about some details. I'm confident that the next events will unfold according to what Charlie described in these last few years (except for some details), but as JAK suggested, only time will tell. The most important thing, in this case, will be the reaction of the world to those events. Will men accept God or reject him? That is the question which will need an answer in 2017.
     
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    You ask what exactly is the "storm" in Charlie's scenario. We are in the storm right now. Just look at the world now, God has been removed from everything, good is evil and evil is good, Christians being persecuted, Catholic religion being attacked, and I could go on and on. Charlie's message is to: Acknowledge God - which is to trust, then to take the next right step - which is to do, and then be a sign of hope to those around you, which is to love; trust, do, love. Have you actually read any of his writings and the comments? He is preparing people spiritually to get thru these times we are living in. I believe he is real but even if he was not his message is one everyone could benefit from. As Crew Dog says, God Save All Here.
     
  10. What is the "next right step"? Shouldn't everyone already be doing that each day anyway? Our heavenly Mother has been speaking of the storms created throughout the world now for decades due to separation from God and has offered us the means to change things so we won't have to suffer greater punishments. To pray NOW for the unbelievers. Those are the "next right steps" we should have been taking for a long time but haven't. So people have to wait until a bigger "storm" to suddenly move them to do what they haven't been doing up until then? And just "acknowledge God"? If people haven't already deepened their closeness to God and dependency upon Him now it will be difficult to suddenly adapt to overwhelming pressures with just an "acknowledgement". He should already be living within you.

    Our Lady has been telling us that if we don't change now and draw closer to her Son, hearts can become so hardened that it will be impossible to accept Him when that difficult time arrives and we have to make that choice. We should have already started our preparation by getting close to our angels and asking the Holy Spirit to guide us and ask our Mother's protection which she has promised all those consecrated to her Immaculate Heart. They will be her refuges in the desert along with cenacles of prayer forming now just as that original Cenacle waited for the first Pentecost, these will await the second Pentecost with her. There is also the protection promised through the image of the Divine Mercy...miracles through that Image's Heart. We can't expect to do anything only by ourselves in such never imagined times to come. We are asked to fast NOW and pray NOW in preparation. "Put not your trust in man" The only protection will be in the two Hearts. You won't be able to pull yourself up by your own boot straps! Not to disparage anyone who has hung his/her security hat on Charlie but to offer another take on this future coming to us soon.
     
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  11. CrewDog

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    I give Charlie credence primarily because he reinforces what I have come to believe over the past 25 years .... and that is: The SHTF Moment is coming ... and now, 2016-18, looks like IT!
    Have Ya heard the latest new coined expression "New Normal"? I'm sure it was coined by What Me Worry Lefties that figure that Evil "Rich People" will pay for it all, God is a myth. Government is the all knowing, loving and protecting entity. Worldwide Evil's root causes can be laid at the feet of the self-righteous religious types with all their do-n-don'ts... Old Normal. The Western World is in collapse ... period! The massive public/private debt can't ... ever .. be paid off. Crime, Bastardy, Drugs, Sloth ... all The Vices ... are up indicating ...Big Time and ALL The Virtues in a graveyard spiral. Don't get me started on Red Stars & Black Crescents Rising. Soooooo .... play the Lefty What Me Worry Stooge and get your throat cut or make preparations/plans as best ya can and, maybe ... perhaps? .. ya might not get your throat cut and make it through The Storm!!??

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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    An interesting comment from Charlie:

    I will have a column about this tomorrow. I have talked about it before but not made it explicit. The thing is, if we are to confront Jihad and China, we will have to have a functioning society – which we currently don’t have. Part of me thought that was obvious…but I have been dealing with this stuff so long that I know some of what is obvious to me is not to everybody. Meantime, I did not want people to get caught up in timelines, as that leads to the wrong focus. So I have let it be for a time…but if you step back and think about the sequences I have already described, you will see there must be a substantial restoration of civil society BEFORE we can confront the greatest furies of the Storm.

    https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/we-dont-need-no-stinking-fig-leaves/#comment-79973

    This mean that, according to Charlie, before the final battle against Jihad and China, the current society will have to collapse, only to be rebuilt few months later so that the confrontation with those greatest furies of the Storm will be possible. Incredible that all of this (collapse+rebuild+confrontation) will develop in just few months, and before late 2017.
     
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  13. CrewDog

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    I think it will be part societal collapse (already occurring) and societal revolt due to inept/corrupt Government, economy implosion, terrorist attacks and crime/disease/backlash brought about by illegal immigration. It, simply, is not hard to imagine IT happening, US/EU, ............. tomorrow!! Get Prepared ..NOW!!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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    https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2016/07/11/return-of-the-king-the-restoration/

    The following is an excerpt from Charlie's 7/11 entry:

    That is why I pray that the fullness of collapse and the beginning of the Restoration be accomplished before the Year of Mercy comes to a close, that as many as possible might be recalled to life before we must face the challenges of Islam and China. But I know that God knows far better than I how it must be – and that He wants all His kids back, so will order things in the way that reclaims the most souls to Him.

    Charlie is holding on to his fourfold scenario: collapse-restoration-Islam-China and then the Rescue in the fall of 2017. The schedule is getting crowded, but God can get a lot done on short notice. Let us not grow slack in our prayers.

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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    I totally believe this will happen.
     
  16. What is Charlie's "collapse" he wants to take place this year and what then is his "restoration" after that "fullness of collapse"? So what is the cause of this first "fullness of collapse" if it doesn't already involve a mixture of war, terrorism (Islam), and natural disasters? He doesn't include the Warning as described by approved mystics including St. Faustina or Garabandal....so just how do all those he mentions get "recalled to life" without the world scale "correction of conscience"? What then will also need to be "rescued" in 2017 if the fullness of collapse has already taken place in 2016? And of course what also is missing in his "scenario" is that necessary visit to Moscow by the Pope and that invasion into Europe of Russian Communism before the Warning that he doesn't accept....but then that's Garabandal's message and he doesn't accept that either. Very confusing.
     
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    Garabandal isn't approved so maybe the things spoken there don't apply... Just a thought.
     
  18. I'll accept the personal judgement of such gifted discerning saints as Padre Pio and Mother Theresa re: that private revelation....and the local Bishop's statements re: Charlie's! No comparison when it comes to trustworthiness.
     
  19. Anyway, the lack of logic involved in the questionable "scenario" of Charlie's I asked about above still isn't answered.
     
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    Those are all good questions earthtoangels. Charlie, you, and I agree that we are in a Storm. Generally speaking, Charlie seems to have never attempted (Should he?) to line up his scenario with other private revelations. He has not denied Garabandal, but has cast doubt on the "literalist"approach that we hold in its regard. To tell you the truth, I believe Charlie is honest, sincere, and says it like it is. His predictions will obviously be proven true or false in just fifteen months. Meanwhile, let us live the sound mantra of his mission: Acknowledge God, take the next right step, and be a sign of hope to those around you.

    That much I can do!

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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