Hi all I've a query on the Medjugorje secrets that I hope someone here with more medj knowledge will know: I watched a YouTube video where Mirjana spoke of announcing the secrets. Will the seers announce all the secrets in advance, or just some?
Only MIRJANA will announce the secrets. She was to choose a priest to announce the secrets to all. She has chosen Father Peter .....I don't know how to spell his name. M
Though I think it is possible that a few of the secrets are very close together in time, so I suppose it is possible sometimes she might give two at a time. For instance the Illumination of Conscience and the Great Sign. ..which I believe are more nor less side by side.
This is interesting. Thanks for your replies. I mistakenly assumed that only some of the secrets would be announced. I assumed some of the secrets would take place way way way off in the future, in our grandchildrens time. The reason I asked this, is because the YouTube video listed the following secrets: 1. Upheaval in the world. 2. Illumination of conscience. 3. Visible Miraculous sign 4. Unknown 5. Unknown 6. Unknown 7. 1st chastisement 8. 2nd chastisement 9. 3rd chastisement 10. 3 days of darkness. Is this list pure speculation or can anyone verify that the list above is accurate? Where did it come from? If it is accurate, then it would appear that the 10 secrets are the most incredible treasure trove of fulfillment of many many Catholic prophecies up and down the centuries. It also exhibits incredible overlap with Garabandal, but if the secrets are to be announced by Mirjana, then the chastisement must happen within her lifetime. What does Garabandal day about the time period between the miracle and chastisement? Again, and I'm probably wrong here too, I assumed it would be an indeterminable, but likely very long time.
Mirjana is the visionary who has been given the 10 warnings for the world. Ten days before each of the warnings, she will advise the priest she chose for this task (Father Petar Ljubicic), who will then pray and fast with Mirjana for seven days. Then, three days before each warning is to take place, Fr. Petar will announce to the world what, where, and when the warning will take place. Fr. Petar has no choice, and must reveal each warning. After the first warning, the other two will follow in a rather short period of time. That interval will be a period of great grace and conversion.The only secret the visionaries have told about is the permanent sign which will be left on Apparition Hill. After the permanent, visible, supernatural, and indestructible sign appears on the mountain where Our Lady first appeared in Medjugorje, there will be little time for conversion. For that reason, the Blessed Virgin invites us to urgent conversion and reconciliation. The visionaries have mentioned that the seventh secret has been mitigated due to fasting and prayer from people. On a side note, Deacon John Martinez asked The Blessed Virgin about the warning and the Blessed Virgin told him the warning would come out of Medjugorje and that Medjugorje is the completion of Fatima.
Thanks hope. So you have any clarification on what "out of Medj" means? Fascinating stuff. Not far away too I might add.
I did ask Deacon John about that and that was his answer-He asked the Blessed Virgin about the warning and the Virgin told him the warning would come out of Medjugorje and that Medjugorje is the completion of Fatima. I have prayed about it and several things came to me but no"word from God" to me on it.
When I first heard about Medjugorje in the 1980s, my plan was that when the First Secret was announced, I would run to Costco and spend three days buying supplies. Sadly, I am not so far advanced in faith and trust that I might not do that now.
I saw Fr Petar Lubovic at a Marian conference in Long Island several years ago....He doesn't like to talk about it or focus on it. Apparently, the secrets are written on a heavenly parchment that Mirjana has. This parchment she must give to Fr Petar to read at the appropriate time. Only a few people have ever seen the parchment. They all see something different on it....not anything written....it's heavenly like Our Lady's Tilma at Guadalupe.....amazing stuff
The only secrets we know for sure is the first is an upheaval in the world and the third is the permanent sign. Several are chastisements. The rest is speculation. However, I do agree that the second secret will be the warning. the warning is a great mercy in and of itself, but to have it pre-announced is an even greater mercy. So, yes it also makes you think of how long the 10 secrets will take to unfold given Mirjana's age, which I think is in her mid to late 40's. So, that might rule out chastisements that overlap generations. Also, there may still be some form of communication system in place if these are to be announced worldwide. But who knows...lots of speculation...we will know soon...very soon...
Incredible, a warning of the warning. I'm assuming that the warning and visible sign are the same events spoken of by Conchita of Garabandal? Will the miracle at the pines happen simultaneously to Miraculous events in Medj?
The way I envision it (and this is all my personal speculation): The first secret is announced and that it will occur in 3 days. A great upheaval in a part of the world, like a damn breaking. It gets lots of news coverage and people will go to the site. Not because they believe it will happen...but to belittle the people who do believe it will happen...a great opportunity to minimize and marginalize catholics...CNN will be all over it. The event will happen and everyone, including those in the media, will be shaken. The second secret is announced and that it will occur in 3 days. This time it is the warning. People will take it very seriously since He got their attention with the first secret being fullfilled. The warning happens as predicted. The third secret is the sign...and then the rest...which is anyone's guess what those are. I personally believe that the prophecies of Garabdendal will converge with the secrets of Medjugorje. That is just my personal opinion.
I personally think that: 2nd secret: Warning of Garabandal. 3rd secret: It might occur on the same day of the Miracle of Garabandal. 7-10th secret: Chastisement of Garabandal.
I remember that father Petar Ljubicic said that the first secret has something to do with Medjugorje itself...
How hard it is to wait and will the wait be worthwhile? Will we really know if the events of Medjugorje are worthy of belief or will it be up to us to decide....still. I hope the decision is clear and I hope we are given clear reasons for the verdict and clear explanation of the sentence.
I believe in Medjugorje for 150% and I will "stick" to that whatever will happen in future. I was 6 times there and I just know... no questions, no doubts, no reasons, no explanations, no official verdicts are needed. You just know... in your heart. Nor will I forget that moment when Mirjana looked at me after she had an apparition on the hill. An interview with her regarding the secrets: http://www.spiritdaily.net/mirjanainterview.htm How can anyone ever say "will the wait be worthwhile ?" God never deceives. He will always surprise beyond our imagination. For that, we only have to read the Bible or simply look at our beautiful nature. People think: "I live, I have money, everything is fine". But then, suddenly, they become sick, and death is knocking at their door. Then they realise that suddenly everything that seemed to be so certain at the first place, can disappear in a few minutes. One has to be totally blind in not seeing the conversions that take place in Medjugorje. We have a marvellous Mother because She stills wants to come to our miserable earth... trying to touch the unbelievers in order to save them too.
