Locutions to the World

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  1. Someone is trying very hard for me not to be able to post the April 15 2015 LTTW. Hmm...I wonder who?

    Please read them so as to be prepared.
     
  2. Well, here goes a try:

    Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World" with Msgr Esseff's comments

    Revealing the Great Secrets (cont'd)

    Apr. 15: 6. Casting New Fire Upon the Church

    Apr. 16: 7. The New Sacred Waters

    Apr. 17: 8. The Bride Awakens

    Apr. 18: 9. The Inevitable War

    http://www.locutions.org/category/revealing-the-great-secrets/
     
  3. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Somebody please get Msgr Esseff to read this!

    Russia Says No to One-World Government
    Prominent American conservative thinker and author William Lind explains why the West is ganging up on Russsia

    William Lind: Yes, of course. The United States and the EU are being hurt by the sanctions also. Russia has very strong foreign currency reserves, and it owes about 800 billion dollars to Western banks, with much of that starting to come due. Now, because of the sanctions, Russia is not going to be able to roll that over by borrowing more in the West. Obviously, what Russia can do in that case is say that it is suspending payment on all loans due to institutions in countries that are participating in the sanctions until the sanctions are lifted. Suddenly, the sanctions will hurt Europe much more than they hurt Russia, because Europe will have another massive banking crisis on its hands. There was a news flash last week about Russia and China buying a great deal of gold. This points to another way the sanctions can backfire. The rest of the world, and not just Russia, is getting tired of the United States trying to dictate to institutions, particularly banks, in their own countries, on what they will do, as if they were American institutions in complete disregard for their national sovereignty. One way to destroy this entire sanctions tool, not just in the case of Russia but also in regards to other countries, is to move trade to a gold basis instead of a dollar basis. The the role of American banks will become irrelevant, because trade will be completed in gold.

    Victor Olevich: Is Europe able to act on its own, independently of U.S. foreign policy goals?

    William Lind: No, Europe at this point is still very much in Washington’s orbit. It would not be an exaggeration to say that the EU is an American satellite. Europe is too afraid of American wrath to take any Russian offers. It is rather a matter of taking logical steps dictated by the situation. The debt problem I talked about before will certainly get Europe’s attention and bring home to them that an anti-Russian policy could have much greater consequences for them than its likely to have for Washington. In this sense, Europe’s interests and America’s interests are divergent.

    Victor Olevich: Russia has warned about the dangers of toppling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since the beginning of Washington’s campaign against his government. Has Putin been proven right by the latest events surrounding ISIS?

    William Lind: Yes, absolutely, he has been proven right. The United States policy in the Middle East is so stupid that there is a very real danger that we may find ourselves simultaneously fighting all three parties – the Islamist rebels in Syria, the Assad government and Iran. It takes real talent in foreign policy to fight everybody at the same time, despite the fact that they are all fighting each other. The only chance for stability in Syria and for the preservation of the state in Syria is the Assad government. The Washington policy makers want Assad overthrown because he is not part of their globalist scheme. We witnessed a similar situation in Libya, where the overthrow of Muammar Qaddaffi led to the disintegration of the state and a permanent state of chaos.

    Victor Olevich: What is behind the massive LGBT rights propaganda campaign in the West? Why is this topic given so much attention, while more pressing subjects are ignored?

    William Lind: This is part of the ideology of the ruling class here, which in fact is a variant of Marxism. It is the Marxism of the Institute of Social Research, of the Frankfurt School, which translated Marxism from economic into cultural terms. This, of course, is completely different from the Marxism of the old Soviet Union, which was economic rather than cultural. The goal of cultural Marxism since 1919, when it was conceived independently by Lukacs in Hungary and Gramsci in Italy is the destruction of Western culture and the Christian religion. Lukacs, when he became deputy Comissar of Culture in the Bela Kun government introduced sex education into Hungarian schools, because he knew that if you destroy the sexual mores of a society, then you have taken a giant step towards destroying its culture as a whole. The Hungarian working class was so outraged by what Lukacs did that when Romania invaded, it refused to fight and the Bela Kun government was overthrown. Cultural Marxism has developed further in the 1930-1950s and is very much the state ideology now in the West. The fact that President Putin is causing Russia to reemerge as the most conservative of the great powers, as Russia was in the 19th century, enrages cultural Marxists and makes Russia their number one enemy.

    Victor Olevich: What can Russia do to support healthy conservative forces in the West that oppose cultural Marxists?

    William Lind: I think Russia should do what it is doing right now – showing people in the West that you can resist cultural Marxism, that you do not have to think that it is the inevitable way of the future, and that a country can decide to retain its traditional way of living and believing.
     
  4. MMM

    MMM Guest

    On many levels I see the Pope's actions and words markedly different if not opposite at times to the words from LTTW. We are called to follow the leader given to us by Jesus Himself first and foremost. Should we fall in line with these private words supposedly by our Mother even backed by Msgr Esseff ahead of the Pope? I'm going with the Pope.....he is battling to save souls of all kinds and not labelling entire populations as enemies like LTTW.

    I've read most of these LTTW and they just don't speak to me....if feel they have more of a fortune teller vibe that prophetic one. I've read the words secret and secrets, the phrase speaking more clearly and new this and that 100's of times now. Marian secrets from the past were a big deal now they are daily yet don't seem to reveal much. Why does she always have to state the need to "speak more clearly" yet seemingly not any more clear? Just me? New fire, new snowfall, new hope, new manifestations, new sacred waters, new phase.....and begin again, let us begin again, we will begin again.....:0)

    If after almost 5 1/2 years of almost daily words from our supposed Mother you'd think the site traffic and readership would have exploded worldwide, nope.

    I love Mary, she is my mother and protector so no disrespect is intended for her or anyone here that believes them.
     
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  5. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    Is this a failed prophecy?:

    206. The Convulsions of 2012

    Dec 26th, 2011

    Mary

    ...
    When the fever reaches its highest pitch, convulsions take place. The body can no longer retain the fire. That is what you are seeing, the first convulsions, like the beginning pangs of birth. If these are the first convulsions, what will the final convulsions be like? What destruction must happen until these evil forces are spent and people realize that so much has been destroyed?

    The Convulsions

    This is what faces mankind in the year ahead, the convulsions of war, economic collapse and massive destructions. These are inevitable unless man listens to me. I say this now so that as the convulsions continue people will remember my word and will gain a measure of hope. They will say, “Our heavenly Mother foresaw all of this. She warned us that this would happen. We must go to her and find refuge in her Immaculate Heart”.
    The convulsions will begin in the Middle East. The uprisings have removed the obstacles to Satan’s plan. The forces of Muslim radicalism can now be joined even more. They will begin to claim control of countries where they had been suppressed. They will have access to more money and to a more open communication. As the American influence lessens, they need not fear any military might coming against them.

    No economic collapse and allegedly no massive destructions in 2012.
     
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  6. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    I try to resist commenting on these 'messages' but the latest has Our Lady actually saying:

    The money supply has so greatly increased that the true value of the dollar is hard to reckon.

    How can anyone seriously believe that comes from Our Lady? But I know earthtoangels does and I suppose he is not alone...

     
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  7. picadillo

    picadillo Guest


    I suppose that is "one of the secrets" she is revealing. How does LTTW square this "secret"? I thought it was Russia doing this?


    US Airstrikes Kill Hundreds of
    Civilians in Syria and Iraq


    By Stephen Lendman
    8-3-15



    US warplanes began bombing Iraqi targets in June 2014. Last September, US Syrian airstrikes followed. Washington falsely claims it’s waging war on the Islamic State (IS) - with pinpoint accuracy against positions and fighters targeted. Just the opposite.

    Bombing aims to destabilize Iraq and Syria more than already. Infrastructure sites are struck - not IS fighters as claimed. America is its de facto air force.

    US Central Command (CENTCOM) in charge of the air campaign falsely claims few civilian deaths at most - saying pinpoint targeting avoids them, one of the many Big Lies proliferated in all US wars.

    Civilians are considered legitimate US targets. Hundreds of thousands were willfully slaughtered since Operation Desert Storm aggression against Saddam Hussein in January 1991 alone.

    In his book titled “A Little Matter of Genocide: Holocaust and Denial in the Americas 1492 to the Present,” Ward Churchill explained:

    After four centuries of systematic slaughter from 1492 - 1892, "the US Census Bureau concluded that there were fewer than a quarter-million indigenous people surviving," in America, reduced to at most 3% of their original numbers.

    Millions were "hacked apart with axes and swords, burned alive and trampled under horses, hunted as game and fed to dogs, shot, beaten, stabbed, scalped for bounty, hanged on meathooks and thrown over the sides of ships at sea, worked to death as slave laborers, intentionally starved and frozen to death during a multitude of forced marches and internments, and, in an unknown number of instances, deliberately infected with epidemic diseases,” Churchill explained.

    Shockingly, "every one of these practices (continues in new forms). The American holocaust was and remains unparalleled, in terms of its scope, ferocity and continuance over time," - systematically erased from the historical record, suppressed by denial or silence.

    Chris Woods is an investigative journalist specializing in conflicts and national security issues. He heads the “Airwars project - aimed…at tracking and archiving the (US-led) air war (falsely claimed) against (the) Islamic State, in both Iraq and Syria.”

    His data “draw heavily from US and allied militaries” - as well as reporting on “credible allegations of civilian casualties” from eyewitness and other sources.

    Take all Pentagon and allied military reports with a grain of salt. They have no credibility whatever. This article focuses solely on Airwars.org reported civilian deaths.

    It tracks CENTCOM-led Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTF-OIR) in Iraq since 2006 - estimating up to 1,250 civilians killed, likely many more not included in its count.

    After less than one year of largely US airstrikes in Syria, it estimates over 400 civilians killed - citing 57 incidents with documented evidence of noncombatant casualties, suggesting many more unknown ones.

    It lists 5,866 airstrikes to date - 3,591 against Iraq, another 2,275 targeting Syria. It neglects to explain premeditated aggression in both cases - despite the US-controlled Iraqi regime allegedly approving the campaign. It continues without Syrian authorization.

    Given this number of airstrikes if accurately counted, far greater numbers of civilians were likely killed plus many more wounded.

    At the same time, the report states “(d)espite claims by the US-led coalition that its airstrikes in Iraq and Syria are ‘the most precise and disciplined in the history of aerial warfare,’ there are clear indications from the field that many hundreds of non-combatants have been killed.”

    Given longstanding US practice of considering civilians legitimate targets in all its wars, the report likely way undercounts noncombatant casualties in Syria and Iraq.

    Likely many thousands were killed or wounded - numbers increasing daily. The Air Wars report cites one strike in December 2014 killing 58 noncombatants in Al Bab, Syria.

    Another in February 2015 killed farmer Ibrahim al-Mussul and his two daughters near Shadadi, Syria. An eyewitness said “(t)heir bodies were shredded. We found Ibrahim’s hand next to the house, and we were still collecting bits of flesh and body parts into the early hours of the following morning.”

    Air Wars Syria researcher Kinda Haddad said “(c)ivilians are dying in unacceptable numbers as a result of military action by so many different actors in both Syria and Iraq.”

    Washington bears full responsibility for waging multiple regional wars of aggression - ongoing for the past generation with no letup.

    Millions died from war related casualties, post-combat violence, illegal Iraqi sanctions, starvation, untreated wounds and diseases, exposure to the elements and overall deprivation.

    In total, among history’s greatest crimes - genocide against multiple populations to further America’s hegemonic madness, criminality on an unprecedented global scale, continuing with no letup with perhaps the worst to come if Washington dares confront Russia and/or China militarily.

    Previous articles discussed lunatics running the Washington asylum. They may destroy planet earth in their maniacal crusade to own it.

    Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

    His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

    http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html

    Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com.

    Listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network.

    It airs three times weekly: live on Sundays at 1PM Central time plus two prerecorded archived programs.
     
  8. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    I reckon our Lady has picked up a Southern accent:):LOL:
     
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  10. Latest: July 31st: Because oil is coveted by so many, Satan has used it in the past and will use it even more in the future.

    Today: Russia, while still digesting its meal of Crimea, is taking another bite at expanding its sovereignty by laying claim Tuesday to the North Pole and a large area of the Arctic Ocean — an area involving oil and gas drilling

    ......If the decision is accepted by the U.N. Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, Russia’s boundaries by land and sea would expand by 1.2 million square kilometers, or about 463,000 square miles.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/5/russia-demanding-ownership-north-pole/

    And a responding comment: Lord sake's, don't send Kerry to negotiate or he'll give them Alaska, too!

    ha!
     
  11. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    Come on, earthtoangels, it's easy to argue about politics but how about responding to Our Lady's supposed statement, "The money supply has so greatly increased that the true value of the dollar is hard to reckon." Do you really think such words could come from our Blessed Lady??
     
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  12. And people of the Fatima locale didn't think she knew what she was talking about either when she kept zeroing in on Russia.....they didn't have a clue as to the geo-political repercussions of our Lady's "new way of talking" then either....since they had no daily natural/cultural understanding of what she was talking about or even of her approach in speaking. And the local pastor was adamant that she wouldn't refer to herself as an "event"...."The Immaculate Conception". And she was speaking as well about another war. She isn't known as the "Seat of Wisdom" because she conforms to only the limited expectations of the choir of the day! And you don't seem to acknowledge her statements in these messages about her recognition, herself, of "speaking in a completely new way". She talks of how she was seen in silence while on earth because that is what the Father wished. Now is the period of her power and full recognition of her relation to modern events....to be seen as "the Woman Clothed with the Sun" finally.....and she's not supposed to comprehend the most vital things that control us today when even the economists are warning about the collapse of the dollar? She's not a plaster statue with some Mona Lisa smile to be discerned. She's moving out strongly to let her children know that she is in tune with their major concerns and is with them as their only true refuge.

    BTW, Happy Birthday to Blessed Mother!! :)
     
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  13. Peter B

    Peter B Powers

    I don't want to be polemical here, but the point doesn't so much concern subject-matter (after all, some of God's utterances to the Hebrew prophets are intensely socio-political) as a lack of elevation in Our Lady's alleged discourse. If you take time to look at the mystics either ancient (e.g. St Bridget of Sweden) or modern (e.g. St Faustina, Luisa Piccarreta or Don Gobbi) who have attracted the greatest attention, though not always unanimity, on the part of members of the Magisterium, you will immediately notice a certain sublimity of tone on the part of the Lord or Our Mother. Their use of language has a hieratic quality to it which can even appear a little old-fashioned at times. It can be extremely intimate and personal but is not familiar in the sense of being akin to our 'everyday', down-to-earth speech (this is logical given that Jesus and Mary have been in heaven for nearly two millenia!). This quality is not consistently present in LTTW, just as it is lacking in, say, the alleged locutions of John Leary, and this to many of us is a tell-tale sign of an intrusion of the locutionary's own subjectivity. If you take a look at the English translations of some other contemporary sources mentioned on this forum who have drawn much positive comment such as Sulema, Luz de Maria, Javier Viesca or Marie-Claire Liberatore (a.k.a. 'Fille du Soleil) you'll quickly notice the difference in elevation that I'm attempting to describe. Or just start reading Pelianito's blog over at pelianito.stblogs.com , for that matter.
     
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  14. Well, a lot of reality here, reflecting the very disappointing truth of the matter re: the past, more preferred "hieratically" delivered messages....um, still being delayed by action required and full seriousness in acceptance, esp. by the Church (thus the need for a new thus more "grassroots" appeal)!:

    Mary’s New Way of Speaking to the World....June 15th

    I reveal my ways so you can walk my road. My ways are surprising and, without my revelation, you would never see or understand.

    In my apparitions, I revealed my ways.
    However, many times my messages did not go forth. They were delayed or held back. So, I must use these new means of communication because the time is so short and my messages are so important. [IOW, these messages place the greatest emphasis on her past visits, by name, esp. those pertaining to current times.... which didn't seem to bear the desired action and are still begging to be taken seriously]

    Many do not realize that the average person
    [non "choir" members...mine] needs daily light. They are no longer surrounded in a culture of light. They no longer enjoy the full light of faith. They are subjected to so many teachings, coming at them in a hundred different ways. They need a daily word that is readily available, always contradicting the word of the world which they hear all day.

    They also need to know that I am with them each day, that I pour out my love and truth each day. So, let no one claim that these daily locutions are not needed. Each day they bring light. They open the window of heaven so everyone can breathe new air. They lift the person up, like their daily cup of coffee.

    They pierce the darkness. They are relentless, never giving up, always believing that mankind can be saved and always trusting that the heavenly Father will provide what is needed.

    .....
    These locutions are my surprising light which has caught the Evil One off guard. They will become a blinding light, easily able to be grasped by my little ones but a source of confusion to Satan.

    Love the great apparitions. Treasure all of my messages. Give thanks for the messengers whom I have chosen, especially my beloved Sister Lucy who struggled for such a long time to reveal the Fatima gift. Do not lament. See what I am bringing about, a new way of my speaking to the world.

    So, see....your Mother even understands your own misgivings about her "methods";)

    Even with scriptural foundation for a new approach.....when those who were "formally" invited to the feast found all kinds of excuses not to give all that much attention to the propriety, or importance of such invitations, the Lord of the feast ordered instead those of the highways and byways (anyone you find) to be gathered up and brought in! harrumph!

    Suppose I go beyond the form then and take a chance due to the obvious and desperate truth of our times....now so short.

    July 8: Mary:
    I am speaking now, before all the events happen, so my words can be recorded and believed. They will be believed more after the events than before. Even then, it will not be too late. However, the time is very, very short. I prophesied that 2015 would be the year for the beginning of the events and that October 13, 2017 (the 100th anniversary of Fatima) is a very important date.

    2012: Jesus: This is what I am searching for, workers in the vineyard, filled with new faith, who believe in a new harvest and new wineskins. ....... Behold, I will make all things new for all who can be filled with new faith.

    A diamond to be found in the rough for sure here!!
     
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  15. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    I feel compelled to add a further personal view about these LttW messages. Unlike Peter, whose views I greatly respect, I am actually very doubtful of the authenticity of most of the many 'locutionists' whose messages are regularly posted on this forum. But the LttW messages come into a different category for me. While most of the other messages posted on the forum are, I believe, largely coming from the minds of the writers, I cannot escape the strong feeling that the devil is more involved in the inspiration behind the LttW messages. There is, for me, an overwhelming sense of the vanity of the writer of the messages that makes reading them unpleasant.

    Many years ago I promoted some false messages on the internet. I was convinced of their authenticity until something happened that showed me how wrong I had been. And after I had been 'uncoupled' from the 'locutionist' I was able to recognise the same 'vanity' that I now see in the LttW writings. I don't expect anyone to be particularly interested in what I've just written but somehow it has got it off my chest!
     
  16. I don't know... I don't think we've come to a stage yet where we can call them false. But I'm always open to hearing others' reasons of concern.

    What I do think is that it's often necessary in message transference, for the messenger to express what they "get" -- what they see or hear or mentally absorb -- using their own personal language. Some special words will come to them that aren't the messenger's everyday words, but other "revelations" will need to be relayed using their own. That's not a problem for me to keep in mind as I read a message.

    I do wonder about this person, often cited, who's supposed to be going to get the world's attention in the future -- I'll watch that especially carefully and hope I discern it rightly.

    But I don't have any problem with the word reckon, knowing what it means -- it is appropriate enough, whether it's from the messenger or from the source.

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  17. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    It is too early to determine whether these Locutions are true or false. In a few months, we'll know more.
     
  18. Stressing the great importance that heavenly messages have for all mankind and what the repercussions are (have been) when they are not received seriously or they are "simply"neglected. Unfortunately people must learn the hard way...and never seem to learn from history. And yet our Mother still offers hope while understanding what it will take before the world can be made ready to receive her help:

    Here is the latest message from "Locutions to the World".

    Title The Two Forces (cont'd)
    Aug. 6: 5. The Fires of Peace

    http://www.locutions.org/2015/08/5-the-fires-of-peace/
     
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