Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Woman Clothed WithThe Sun, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Yes, of course they were.....it was just easier to read the English and therefore get through the videos understanding his explanations exactly since I wasn't always able to understand him, speaking in English, as great an effort as he made and was greatly appreciated.

    But if it is easy to create the English subtitles for all the new videos will such be coming out soon?
     
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  2. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    I was able to watch the astronomy video and glean much of what his theory is, although I don't speak Spanish. I think his astronomy is insightful, and he may have identified some of the very reasons behind the "signs in the sun, moon, and stars" we were instructed to look for.

    There are a few things that I would like independent confirmation on:
    1. How unique is this series of conjunctions? Is it only Year 2 and Year 2015/2016 (or is it Year 2 BC?)?
    2. The comet he refers to in 2016. Is this a known close encounter to occur, or is it just another minor comet appearance?
    Also, I still have a problem with his subsequent layering/application of these astronomical events with prophecies of Garabandal:
    1. I believe he still places the Warning on or near an expected axis shift of the earth (11/13/16). This is not consistent with the nature of the Warning.
    2. Thus he then places the Miracle as the "pinnacle" event that these signs are pointing to, and places it in April of 2017.
    3. These observations seem incorrect for several reasons:
      1. The Warning follows shortly after a Synod, and is in an even year. This means he may be right about a 2016 Warning, but it is more likely going to be January - February - or March 2016, following the late 2015 Synod.
      2. The Miracle is not the pinnacle event of the Day of the Lord, but it is instead the Triumph. The Warning and Miracle are instruments to cause conversion, prior to the Chastisement, which all precede the Triumph.
      3. Therefore, the Miracle is more likely to follow the early 2016 Warning, and thus may take place in April of 2016. (<-- A full year earlier than Antonio theorizes)
      4. The Chastisement then will likely occur between April 2016 and April 2017 (maybe November 2016 as he points points to for big events regardless).
      5. Then, April 2017 is the larger time marker of the pinnacle event, the Triumph, not the Miracle, which is again, a signpost on the way to the Triumph.
    It seems that many people point to the Miracle as the end game, but I don't think that is correct. It is an over emphasizing of the Miracle as an event.

    When Fr. Malachi Martin pointed to 2017 (...less than 20 years from 1997....), he stated that all would take place by then. And he meant the 3rd secret of Fatima Chastisements (reiterated in Akita and Garabandal messages) and then the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, leading to the beginning of the granting of the Era of Peace. All by 2017.

    Antonio's timeline is several years longer and later.
     
  3. Earthtoangels,
    I'm not sure what do you mean by "yes, of course they were" (meaning that Antonio's English videos were subtitled).
    You have written TEXT (slide-text I mentioned before) but not subtitles. The reason is clear: the slides he uses for the presentation are written in English and the voice is in English. You can turn captions on in your own device (getting automatic subtitles) but that doesn't mean that the video uploaded does have subtitles.

    At least this is what I understand as subtitles -please correct me as needed-

    Of course you can also have subtitles in an all English video to help with the accent or the pronunciation of the person speaking in English but I haven't seen any English video of Antonio with those subtitles.
     
  4. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    As to your point #1. I think there will be more of these findings in the very near future

    To your last point, Antonio's date's are stretched out past the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart (in 2017) over Satan and into the 3.5 year era of the Antichrist from 2017 -2020
     
  5. Antonio presents the 8 conjunctions that preceded and signaled to the birth of the Messiah -years -3, -2 etc, meaning 3BC 2Bc etc). THESE conjunctions, and especially the last of them were what put the Magi in motion to travel to Jerusalem.
    Here is the capture shot (if I manage to get the attachment correctly up :))
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    His point is that THESE particular conjunctions, which happened over a period of 427 days, were so special that the Magi could read and understand them as to to get to know of the birth and to meet the Messiah Jesus Christ Our Lord [Priera Venida, in Spanish means First Coming].

    Now the huge thing is that a new series of 8 conjunctions NOW, withing a period of 423 days, is pointing out in the Stars towards a NEW BIRTHING of THE WOMAN (as in the Book of Revelation), and in the current conjunctions instead of having Jupiter (the King) as the center like before the birth of Christ, they now have Venus as the center and most repeated, signalling to the importance of the role of the Woman in this new birthing as Coredemptrix in the End Times .

    Here I'll try to post the corresponding capture shots:
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    This is the comparison of conjunctions before the first coming and in our time:
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  6. I was agreeing with you about the English text along with Antonio's speaking in English. That's why I stated that I could move along with the text (which was very helpful) while not having to more slowly decipher his English speaking which I wasn't always able to understand. Either way, any English help in order to get his facts exact is helpful. So if English subtitles are easy to do (as stated) that would be very helpful for these latest videos.
     
  7. The comet he refers in 2016 is also a parallel to a comet in the year -2 or 2BC.

    Comet in 2BC at the maximum display of the tail it signals to the womb of Venus -the birth of Christ.
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    He considers an UNEXPECTED confirmation of his hypothesis this 2016 comet that in its maximum display of the tail it signals to cancer, the constellation of transformation -the crab grows by change of the hard shell. Antonio interpretation of cancer is as symbol for the 144000 first fruits in the Book of Revelation, who get a transformed body before the full harvest of all the rest.

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  8. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    I get that he is trying to cover additional years. I think I just theorize a different Warning - Miracle - Chastisement - Triumph sequence:
    • By taking away his assumption that the Miracle is the major 2017 event in April, (and thus also the need he has to fit the Warning in late 2016),
    • I arrive at an early 2016 Warning and an April 2016 Miracle......(because 2017 is the Triumph, following chastisement in late 2016).
     
  9. As for all you points here, Jon, obviously you haven't followed Antonio's explanations on the English series of Sacred Astronomy and End Times. I just can't show you point by point what are Antonio's hypothesis and how your assumptions don't correspond to his explanations. You don't get his tread of thought and investigation from one video, there are about 40 videos by now.

    Anyway as a general response I'll point out that the main clue for dating is the Sign of the Woman, the Miracle, the conjunctions in the stars PLUS the RESTRICTIONS of Garabandal (1: martyr of the Eucharist day, and 2: the day of a joyful event for the whole Church). These two restrictions make for: the 1st to happen twice in the millenium [2017 and the year 29 hundred and something] ; and the 2nd restriction: only once in 100.000 years this is how small chance it has to happen. And that date is April 13, 2017. This is the "cornerstone" of his structure, the astronomical event that is at the very bottom or root of his hypothesis and theories. You can go back to his 3rd video of the series.

    Everything else comes afterwards from that start point. Again, you can go back to watch the series and find out how he finds the date for THE TRIUMPH OF THE CHURCH and satan being chained for 1000 years
    at the latest on December 21, 2020.
    Then he works on the week of years of Daniel going back from that date, 2020, and goes finding the astronomical matches, plus the events of the Passion of the Church according to the parallel between the last 7 days of the earthly life of Jesus, and the 7 years that precede the Second Coming and Triumph of Christ.
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    As to the Warming AFTER A SYNOD, you are taking for granted that the Synod is the coming October Synod, which is only THE SECOND PART of the extraordinary Synod of 2014.

    October 2016 is set for an ORDINARY Synod of the bishops. So that objections you have doesn't apply either. It could very well be the Synod preceding the Warning in November 2016 according to Antonio's hypothesis.

    The TRIUMPH is obviously the pinacle, it is the Coming of Christ to start the New Era of Peace and the inauguration of the Kingdom where "Thy Will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN" in 2020 or before.

    The Miracle -2017, centenary of Fatima etc- corresponds with The Sign of the Woman of Revelation 12. It is not the final triumph of Mary but will show Mary to the whole world and will be a triumphal display in the heavens. And then all will know that is Mary who will lead the Church into the definitive Triumph (2020 or earlier) to meet and welcome the triumphant Christ. The Kingdom will bring the joint Reign of the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts of Jesus and Mary "for a thousand years" before the End of Time (singular time), that is the very end.

    You have to give time for the three and a half years of the reign of the antichrist, who is around but not yet openly.

    So as you see there is much more to the dates of Antonio's hypothesis.
    Hope this helps at least a little.

    Edit: I just corrected the typo in date of the Miracle April 13, not the 14 as I had it before-
     
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  10. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Mmm..hope you don't mind me using this thread in this way but I miss the comments on Aviso's old blog of a contributer from Australia called Camilla. She stopped commenting on that blog but she was into this type of sacred and mystical indication and I wondered if she ever looked in on this site. So 'hi Camilla' if you see this and send me a pm.
    I have come across this kind of sacred astronomy and end times before on a site called ice540.com by Casey Brenner which indirectly led me to my first visit to Garabandal in 2013 even though the predictions on that site at that time were not accurate. Casey was into MDM which put me off.
     
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  11. Leo

    Leo Principalities

    WCWTS and Andree, I would appreciate your thoughts on a question I posed to Antonio earlier today:
    Could it be possible that these first fruits (i.e., the 144,000) are part of the first "true hosts" that Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta writes about in volume XI, March 3, 1912 and on December 17, 1914? Quoting Rev. Joseph Iannuzzi in "The Gift of Living in the Divine Will in the Writings of Luisa Piccarreta": With the free consent of the soul's human will Jesus removes from it all that is not holy, pure and upright, and fills it with all the blessings his Divine Will contains (cf. Luisa Piccarreta, XVI, October 16, 1923). After having informed, weaned and perfected the soul, for as many times as it accomplishes its acts in the Divine Will, Jesus consecrates it into a living host (cf. Luisa Piccarreta, XII, June 20, 1918).
     
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  12. Johntum Ergo

    Johntum Ergo New Member

    Hi Everyone. This topic caught my eye, so I decided to join the forum. The date of Mr. Yague's research for the miracle was identified by a mystic priest more than 40 years ago. The conjunctions of the planets/stars coincide with the prediction of the holy priest. I learned the date April 13, 2017 from the video at this link:

    Anyone else know anything?

     
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  13. I think this is very insightful, Leo, thank you for sharing it here.
    Antonio knows of Luisa Piccarreta and the Divine Will and has mentioned it several times in his videos but there is nothing in them even close to your point. But who knows, you may have made him think about it.

    Antonio has an extensive explanation of the anthropology behind his hypothesis around the First Fruits and also about the characteristics of the human nature "after the End Times". He basically distinguishes the Times in before -where there is death- and after -where "death is no more" as in Rev. He speaks, rather, of Transformation -as St Paul has it: "not all will die but all be transformed etc."

    Now recently I read a quote from Luisa -which regrettably I don't remember where it was- where the Lord told her that in the New Era He will expand the life-span as in the times before the Flood.
    And if the Era of Peace is called "Thousand Years" in Revelation, it might be just the same to say that there is no death as to say that humans will live to 900 - 1000 years old like Methusela and other Bible patriarchs (Gen 5).

    Now see what Jesus tells Luisa here (Vol 20-Oct 22,1926):
    The Kingdom of my Fiat will enclose all goods, all miracles and the most sensational prodigies; even more, It will surpass them all together. And if ‘miracle’ means to give sight to a blind person, to straighten up a cripple, to heal one who is sick, to raise one who is dead, etc., the Kingdom of my Will will have the preserving nourishment, and for whomever enters into It, there will be no danger that he may become blind, crippled or sick. Death will no longer have power in the soul; and if it will have it over the body, it will not be death, but transit.
    ... whoever lets himself be dominated by It [the Divine Will they live in], will be subject to no evil. Therefore It will have no need to make miracles, because It [the Divine Will they live in]will preserve them always healthy, holy and beautiful – worthy of that beauty which came out of Our creative hands in creating the creature.
    The Kingdom of the Divine Fiat will make the great miracle of banishing all evils, all miseries, all fears, ... this in the soul but also in the body there will be many modifications..."


    Antonio, who apparently is an expert in Thomas Aquinas theology, explains that human bodies in the New Era - and also the First Fruits or Primicias- will be similar to the Risen Christ before the Ascension, which he calls a transformed body -in expectation of the fully glorified body of Christ in Glory.

    And here we have a quote from Luisa (Vol12 Ap15,2019)
    "my Resurrection is symbol of the souls who will form their sanctity in my Will. The Saints of these past centuries are symbols of my Humanity; although resigned, they did not have continuous attitude in my Will, therefore they did not receive the mark of the Sun of my Resurrection, but the mark of the works of my Humanity before my Resurrection. Therefore, they will be many; almost like stars, they will form for Me a beautiful ornament to the Heaven of my Humanity. But the Saints of the living in my Will, who will symbolize my resurrected Humanity, will be few.
    ...Now, if my Resurrection symbolizes the Saints of the living in my Will - and this, with reason, because each act, word, step, etc. done in my Will is a divine resurrection that the soul receives; it is a mark of glory that she undergoes; it is to go out of herself in order to enter the Divinity, and to hide within the refulgent Sun of my Volition; and in It she loves, works, thinks - what is the wonder if the soul remains fully risen and identified with the very Sun of my glory, and symbolizes my resurrected Humanity? But few are those who dispose themselves to this, because souls, even in sanctity, want something of their own good; while the Sanctity of living in my Will has nothing – nothing of its own, but everything is of God; and in order for souls to dispose themselves to this, to stripping themselves of their own goods, it takes too much. Therefore, they will not be many.

    Much to ponder and to pray about.
     
  14. Thanks Johntum Ergo, and welcome to MoG.
    I've never heard of this holy priest before. I understand that he is just describing the contents of Garabandal and adding the date of April 13, 2017 as the date of the Miracle from his own insight/locution or whatever.
    Is this correct?

    It is very striking to see the solid foundation of Antonio behind this same date. Sounds like a confirmation.
     
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  15. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    One more confirmation: I think I mentioned this in another thread, but the site "A Catholic Jew Pontificates" has a blog entry,
    Garabandal Miracle 13 April 2017 ( Passover 5777): A Hebrew Catholic Speculation
    which also makes a connection to April 13, 2017. As the title suggests, it is the date of the Jewish feast of Passover. The year in the Hebrew Calendar is 5777 -- "5" represents the Hand in Jewish numerology; "777" is the number for the Seal of G_D, so the year 5777 can be seen as the Hand of G_D. Given the ways observant Jews use to avoid writing the name of G_D, it can also be read as "The Hand of Miriam (Mary)".

    BTW, I recommend going to this site soon. He's finishing up a series on a Hebrew Catholic view of Mary in John 1. Very interesting and insightful! I have always felt there was something in the Gospel texts I was missing because they were Jews writing (mostly) to a Jewish audience. John is writing (mostly) to a Gentile audience, so he makes things a little more explicit.
     
  16. Johntum Ergo

    Johntum Ergo New Member

    Yes, that's my take on it too. He had the gift of prophecy, so it does make sense. Very interesting that Antonio's research comes to the same conclusion. And like Muzhik mentions, there are other possible connections. I guess we pray on it.
     
  17. It seems to me that several significant sources might come together around aspects discussed in this thread. Although their contributions are from different perspectives it might very well be the "diversity" that is part of truth depending on the aspect that is emphasized but where there is no opposition.

    A new thread has been open Antonio Yagüe's presentations in English where we can express interest in having Antonio's videos subtitled into English. The thread opens with a survey about personal interest. Antonio will see the number of people interested and that will possibly influence the reality of having that task pursued.

    If you are interested, please express your opinion in that survey and thread http://motheofgod.com/threads/antonio-yaguees-presentations-in-english.7606/
    Thank you
     
  18. miker

    miker Powers

    I had never read this information about the Ark being hidden in a cave by Jeremiah. But, it's connection to Mary, as THE Ark of the Covenant is solid Catholic tradition. So, if under Jewish tradition, the Ark is to be found again before the coming if the Messiah and all the Jews will be converted, it seems very plausible that the Great sign could be Mary herself appearing. Perhaps she and the heavenly hosts will be carrying the Ark? After all, Mary was the Ark who brought Jesus into the world the first time; why wouldn't Mary play a key role in heralding His coming again?

    http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-end-times-revelation-of-ark-of.html
     
  19. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    I think the video of Fr. McNamara is certainly persuasive that the date may be April 13, 2017, but remember he says in it a lady told him that, not that he had personal independent verification. I just don't want to see someone have his or her faith shaken by believing there is independent confirmation of a date, in case that predicted date turns out to be in error.
     
  20. Leo

    Leo Principalities

    Antonio's reply to the above question:

    Antonio Yagüe 8 hours ago
    Yes. Why not? There are many ways to describe the same facts
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