Thank goodness, I found the passage about our , 'hidden name' , here it is here: Revelation 2:17 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat.And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it" Well this hidden name which we to be given in Heaven is our angelic name if you like. Whereas I believe because the angels have always been in heaven they always have had their, 'It does what it says on the box', names. So, for instance Saint Michael has always been ,Michael'..it has never been hidden. Notice that at Medugorje Our Blessed Mother refers often to the children as, 'My angels' . So we are a lot more like angels...or will be........... than we ever guess...
Thanks- I looked up Edward and since it has something to do with guarding the kings treasure and implies money instead other types of wealth, I'm thinking Edward is not it. I'll keep at it though and see what my Angel tells me, maybe I'll come up with something more along the lines of "It does what it says on the box" instead of a traditional English name. He is probably relieved as I was planning on calling him Ted :lol: I'd love to know my own angelic name. I probably need to get more into my prayer for that. I'm missing contemplative prayer in my life. It's probably Ted :lol:
Kathleen, here is what I found for your meanings: "Edward is used chiefly in the English and Polish languages, and its origin is Old English. The name's meaning is guardian of riches. Two-element name derived from the elements 'ead' meaning wealth, blessed ; 'weard' meaning warden, guard." To me, that sounds like a fine angel-name. Especially for your angel, Kathleen. You are a guardian yourself, a protector (a guard protects), I get that impression anyway by what you do and how you feel about others. Fitting that your angel would be a guardian of the wealth - the blessed, which is you. And of course to be a protector for you as well. Also, looking at the name map created at this link, your angelic name may very well be Ted!!! (why did it come to your mind…?) Since it is a derivative of Edward! (amazing) http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Edward I came here tonight sheepishly considering posting what happened to me today, but thinking that it would seem too soon to get the answer, and I didn't want to appear boastful or something. BUT Kathleen, you got yours already too, and, well, I got mine...I got the name Carroll. It makes so much sense to me now that I think about it, as this name has been around me all my life, but no person close to me has this name. NEVER, NEVER, have I ever thought of this name in this way before today. But I think it was being told to me over and over, I just wasn't getting it. Today I saw it in a movie that was also speaking to me personally about my other dilemma, working at the cemetery or with the light bulbs. I got a lot of messages today. Last night I went to sleep praying a rosary for myself (which I seldom ever do). I prayed to God to please give me an answer to my work dilemma as I have to make a decision now...and also I prayed for God or for my angel to please show me his name. I asked for God to somehow do these in a way that I would be certain of both answers. I asked that he do them together so I knew for sure he was talking to me. I know not to expect to actually hear a voice, because for me I don’t think this will ever happen. He talks to me in some kind of visual way. Well, He did it! He did it through a movie, within minutes of each other, and both things came at me just like Matthew Kelly says, "It will knock you over!" I was in a place I should not have been today, and it came when I least expected it. So I am quite certain it is my answer. Carroll is Germanic in origin, also very significant for me…it means Man, or Free Man. Not sure why this is significant for me specifically, but I am a free person…I lead an independent kind of life. I guess I will have to pray about it. I am sure the meanings will come to light more now that I have recognized it. I don’t think angels need to have Hebrew-origin names, but I do think they must have a name that has a deep meaning to the person they are assigned to. Then Padraig, you gave me the final affirmation that I was getting a real message today. You mentioned in your post something very odd: “the names of angels as being like the lettering on trucks, kind of like, 'It does what it says in the box'...a description of what God made them for...always reflected at some point in Scripture.” My first real message that I knew was from God last year, the one that got me to Medjugorje in March of this year, was provided to me as something written on the back of not one, but two trucks! You saying this thing about trucks confirmed that I should write this post, and that I should believe it. As for the angelic-name thing, I think now that perhaps our angel’s name is special to the type of person we are or the mission we are supposed to take on. Like you said, it does what it says, or it helps us to do what it says? Maybe we are given our angel’s name (its meaning) on the white stone, maybe this is our angelic name offered to us. Maybe they are one in the same, maybe we are just getting our signals crossed about it here on earth. For one thing, we will never be an angel, so why would we be given an angelic name to replace our name? I think that the angelic name we are given is the gift of knowing our guardian angel’s name, and of understanding completely what this means for us, what its purpose is for us. It is a part of us , though it is our angel’s name. I am babbling now because I’m having trouble verbalizing what I have in my head. Sorry about that. Do you see my thoughts, though?
Well I read somewhere that after we die our Guardian Angels do not leave us but say right beside us for all Eternity so we must be very,very closely linked in this, like brothers or sisters...so we are all close family. So if we are so close to ourangels in Heaven I suppose we muct be very alike in many ways and this is why the angels are so fond of us, the ones that guard and direct us. Also maybe, I don't know but a great saint like, say Mother Teresa of Calcutta or Padre Pio must have had very big angels watching over them since they will have such high places in heaven and their angels will stand their right alongised them!! Just a guess. I wonder if we might not be angels, though, when we die? As I mentioned Our Lady referred to the children at Medugorje as, 'My angels', I do not think she would do this lightly.
I think we'll be heavenly bodies but we won't get the wings :wink: I haven't gotten any other angel names since my first attempt and Edward came clearly to my mind when I asked, so I'll stick with it for now. He knows what it means to me anyway, so I doubt he would be offended by my calling him that. Its rather exciting to think of really large angels that might guard a church or a city or a saint. WOW! So MC, AKA Carroll, what did you decide to do about work? Just curious, Ted
LOL!!! Well, Ted, I guess I got distracted and didn't finish that thought did I? So - it was told to me yesterday to leave the cemetery, I’m sorry, Padraig. I know your vote was for it, but I am devoting a lot of time and making no money, and it seems to be more of a burden to those I am talking to about preplanning, than it is a help. Everyone I talk to is either on unemployment or not working or they have no way to really do this now. And since they hired another guy I don't get all the "at Needs" either, and there's not enough of those a week in our community to make a living for one salesperson, let alone two. The big thing personally too is that it limits my freedom to do other things with my free time and with my family. It is taking up weekends and evenings for no real gain. If I were to really jump in to this, it would take up way more nights and weekends than I feel I can give, and I find I am praying a lot less too. I have lost a lot of my prayer time. My bulb sales job is much more flexible and I can control it much better…but I do need to work harder at it than I had been. Maybe if nothing else, the cemetery job has shown me this. That I had it pretty good already. I will not burn the bridge, though. Perhaps there will be a place for it in my life later, but not now. The economy is just too bad here. The other sales guy is an old-hat that they hired back, and he isn’t making many sales either. I have done a lot of marketing work for them and hopefully they can use what I’ve done to help along the way, but there Is no pay for this, the position is commission-only so if I am not making sales, I am not making anything. I actually miss the driving of my other job, which amazes me. But what I think I really miss is the rosaries I’d say and prayers and the churches I used to visit in my travels. There is a light customer in Dekalb that I still have not seen to give her a rosary from Medjugorje that I brought back for her. This whole thing has been driving me crazy, but the more I ponder it, the more I feel good about the decision. Connie & Carroll
You make me feel a little guilty as I have a good job I enjoy unlike so many others. My nephews for instance have left college and cannot find good work, like tens of thousands of others. They say over here 50 students are applying for every job. But it will force people to reconsider their priorities. God is leading us somewhere else..a really radical somewhere else, we are only at the very,very beginning of a very,very long road. I would say if we came back to the world in say forty years or less we simply would not recognise it. I have to keep reminding myself that God is in the driving seat, He knows where He is going even if we don't and its to somewhere wonderful..with plenty of time for prayer.
Mom's Calling??? Another thing happened just about the same time I made the decision to stop working for the cemetery. My mom called me, and ANOTHER old aunt, one I would least expect to become part of this (she and I have never been close...at all), called and asked if my mom and I would please give a talk to her ladies’ morning prayer group at our Church on Aug. 18 about our trip to Medjugorje! We ran into her at the store a few weeks ago when we were shopping for little Adam's welcome party, and the Holy Spirit grabbed my mom and she talked and talked my aunt's ear off about the trip. I was quite amazed at how much my mom talked, actually, and what she now knew and said. Well, it gave fruit. Of course my mom said she "couldn’t" do a talk like that, but I could…well I told her, "not without you at my side". I can do it, I have spoken in front of small crowds before, I used to do training schools and the like. I know she will do a lot of the talking (but it will be another first for her, at 78!). I will put together some visuals, video and photos. Here we go, a new adventure! And I will be able to take the time off easily as my time will be in my own control again with the light bulb job only…Hmmm. Maybe we will end up organizing a trip...with all these prayer-group ladies! You just never know what is in store. I better converse with Carroll about this... :?
Wow- things sure do blossom when you get on the right garden path! I'm happy for you, especially that you will be able to say more Rosaries while you travel. I used to travel and pray too. Its a wonderful opportunity to be with God. Good luck with the talk. It sounds like you will have a real good time talking about the trip. I hope you can organize another. How wonderful Edward and I will pray for your success :lol:
I work in a hsopital, MC. I have been working there for three years now, doing clerical work in Health Reocds with the most lovely people. I was out of work for a few moths back then and finally went round to the Poor Clares Convent right beside me and got the nuns to pray for me. I got word of theis job a couple of days later..a real miracle.
Oh, that does sound like a job to love. Others that I know who work in hospitals love their jobs also. Your angel and apparently some great nuns are really looking out for you!
Momscalling, I've so much enjoyed this conversation on angels and such. I have a friend named Joe Spadaro who is convinced that his angel is named Samuel. Joe has often asked his help while working on his car. So confident is Joe in Mechanic Sam, I've asked my guardian angel to ask Samuel's assistance at times. They have not failed me. 8) As to my angel's name, I have yet to pursue that question. Hmmmm... I believe you've made the right choice in exiting the cemetary work at this point. I think Saint Joseph is a great help in decision-making. Remember how Gabriel had to re-direct Joseph when he was on the verge of making a wrong, but honest choice( Mt 1:20-25). I am confident that any of us who sincerely try to discover God's will, shall ultimately be directed to that best choice. Saint Joseph understands this perfectly and will be a wonderful companion in any discernment process. Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
I love Padraig's answer to the question of knowing your angel's name...just ask him! Sometimes we want things to be complicated and mysterious...when in reality it couldn't be more simple! Kathleen and I got our answers just as simply as this, and I can't speak for her, but I know I am not worthy of this kind of information. I would love to hear answers in an audible voice, but then perhaps that is reserved for those who have already proven their faith more than I have...after all, he does want to be sure we do have faith to believe the things that are not physical to us. Today in our priest's homily, he said, " Faith is proof for what cannot be seen" I could add "or heard" to that statement. Oh how true. If only the world would treat faith as something tangible, as a tool like this, it would be such a better place to live here on earth.
MC- I'm totally not worthy. I asked at the name came to me in my head out of the blue. Was not what I was expecting- so I really don't know, but I'm sure he'll forgive me for calling him something polite and nice like Edward. I sure wonder though. I'm talking to him more as a result of this all so I think this is all good. I recommend everyone try to get closer to their angel and ask for protection. I think we need it more than ever and its comforting to have a name for someone that you know is there for you. God gave us the angels. I think its really sad that we (OK- I mean 'me' really) have lost touch with our faith so much that we forget they are there or don't connect with them. So Edward is with me while I pray. I ask him to help me focus (I've a bit of ADD) and chat with him while I'm puttering about. Its nice, Kath
I didn't know where to put this so I did a search for Vocation on this site and up came 'Avril and the little old nun.' What a fascinating thread. It got my attention at first because Avril was my ex wife's name. Secondly because a Sister Theresa was a patient of mine who led me to the carver of Our Lady of Akita (Kiwi version). I have already posted the various stages of this carving. Like yours my Avril and Theresa were real good sorts always busy helping others very loyal and not at all judgemental. Funny how life takes you. Avril's second name was Banks and years before I met her I had contact with an SSPX woman called Banks who was a great help to me. She gave me a poem by an anonymous contemplative Carmelite from an old, out of print book entitled "God and Rosanne." THE VOCATION Call me, dear Lord, When breaks the day along the hills and misty grey melts into gold, While in my eyes, the freshness of the dawn still lies, Call me, dear Lord. Hold me, dear Lord While glows the red of life's sweet rose, While overhead the white clouds dream above the hill And noontide lingers, hushed and still, Hold me, dear Lord. Call me once more when fades the rose And the first breath of evening blows, When the first shadows mar the gold and twylight gathers, fold on fold, Call me once more.
This is something completely new to me - I never knew that before. Perhaps, our new names in heaven will be connected to how we have fulfilled our mission on earth: Here are possibilities for a few of my favourite saints: Padre Pio - alter Christus (in the image of Christ) Mother Teresa - Amore Signifer (Love bearer) St Therese of Liseux - Incesum Dei (perfume of God) John Paul II - Veritas Signifer (Truth Bearer)
The name on our stone, apparently is based on scripture. So it describes who we truly are, as the Native American Indians tried to sum up the spirit of the person, a la , @Dance with Wolves'. I get the from St Elizabeth of the Trinity. She said her own name was, 'In praise of His glory', which is itself derived from a Pauline text: Ephesians 1:6 Spiritual Blessings …5He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, 6to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. 7In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace… You can see how right this name was for Saint Elizabeth since her charism, her vocation, her life's work was to praise the Trinity.
I once read that Our Lady's real heavenly name is not Mary. Mary is her earthly name. Her real heavenly name is..... Full of Grace! This is told to us in the Gospel of St Luke, by the archangel Gabriel, who addressed Mary by her real name; Hail, Full Of Grace, the Lord is with Thee.
