What is happening? Russian planes over European skies?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by bona fide, Oct 29, 2014.

  1. bona fide

    bona fide Angels

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  2. Fatima

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  3. Sanctus

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  4. Glenn

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    I laugh when people try to convince me Putin is so Christian,and non-aggressive. Same old Russian leadership, different names ,same agenda .
     
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  5. bona fide

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    no, unfortunately neither Russia nor most of the countries by the way

    And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
     
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  6. FatimaPilgrim

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    Same in the U.S., our planes are scrambling often. Same stuff they did during the Cold War.

    But let's me throw this out there. I don't know what to believe, but if we take it at face value that Saint John Paul II did indeed fulfill Our Lady's request, as Sister Lucy said he did (right?), can we not see the fruits? The Soviet Union broke up. The people in the country went back to God (If reports are true as referenced in the article Fatima posted). Is it possible that Russia has been converted, but the leader (Putin) is still off the rails?

    I mean, just because we have a socialist leader now (Obama) does that make Americans communists?
     
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  7. There are several messages from LTTW which pertain to this matter here:

    http://www.locutions.org/?s=russia+consecration

    including this one:

    179. Open Your Eyes to Russia

    Nov 27th, 2011

    http://www.locutions.org/2011/11/open-your-eyes-to-russia/

    Mary:

    The Evil Dismantled

    By the grace of God, Alaska was purchased from Russia, otherwise that nation would have foothold in North America. A few decades ago, Russia’s influence was at a peak until I began to dismantle it.

    The popes made numerous dedications and whenever a dedication was made, I showed my response by great blessings. Yet, my request for the Consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart to be made by the pope in union with all the world’s bishops has not been made. The evil has not been attacked as I directed, so it still resides in the heart of this country which is so expansive.

    The Evil Returns

    As a result, the evil has grown back; the Cold War confrontations are being resumed. More important, the evils behind the scenes are multiplying. All of this is clearly known by President Obama but is being hidden, as far as possible, from the American people. A foolish treaty has been signed that is useless and restricts America. Have not the American leaders learned by now? Treaties with Russia do not lead to peace. Evil lurks in the hearts of those leaders and treaties are just instruments of their evil designs.

    Coming Back Into Prominence

    Now, the stage is set. Russia is clawing its way back into prominence. The goals are clear, the same goals they have always had – to destroy other nations and to co-op other nations by circumstances so that they become a world power.

    Of itself, Russia does not have the resources to dominate the world, but if they entrap other nations (as they did with the Iron Curtain), then they can lift themselves to prominence.

    The New Tactics

    The situation is new. An Iron Curtain will not work because there is too much communication. But other systems can be used. There can be a different binding and tying together. What would connect nations? The answer is selfish interests that look to the destruction of other nations. Evil has a great power to unite. When evil interests are shared by nations that are looking to rise to power, then the bonds become very strong even though the nations themselves seem very different. This is what is happening behind the scenes. So, open your eyes to Russia.


    Comment: On a few occasions, popes have made dedications and consecrations that have been followed by clear divine intervention. Now, Russia is involved in Iran’s search for atomic weapons. It has recently threatened military operations against the United States’ efforts to deploy a defense shield in Europe. Other Russian cooperation with evil will be reported.
     
  8. Putin is attempting to break up NATO and show that it is feckless, unwilling to respond strongly to Russia's provocations.

    more to your topic:

    http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/nato-intercepted-19-russian-military-aircraft-today
     
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  9. What is happening is that Russia is going to suddenly and unexpectedly overwhelm a great part of the free world as dictated by Mari Loli of Garabandal, any day now, fasten your seatbelts.
     
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  10. Andy3

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    ^^^most likely even before the end of the year given the energy embargo they want to place on Europe which would be an act of war.
     
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  11. it will all be over very quick, peace in the morning, war by the evening.
     
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  12. No World War 3 as Our Lady said. God will intervene (illumination of conscience)
     
  13. bona fide

    bona fide Angels

    Thank you all for your responses. I must say yesterday I was somewhat scared and excited with the news. I know that everything will happen swiftly but I am expecting the events (warning and miracle) only in 2016, 2017.
    :D
     
  14. bona fide

    bona fide Angels

    Agree with you. "No world war". But certainly limited battles and revolutions in Europe that will cause the pope to leave Rome.
     
  15. Ang

    Ang Archangels

    Good point fp ...Defiantly something to think about.
     
  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Who is the resource that conteded that Lucia said that JPII's consecration to the world (not Russia) was done to fullfill the Fatima request? It is from none other than Cardinal Bertone, right? There has been plenty written on this forum on his dubious past. There are plenty of other credible resources that have said that it did not fullfill our Lady of Fatima requests. Verne Dagenais messages from our Lord spoke extensively on this as one credible resourse to me. The Fatima Crusader has many other articles that seem to validate this as well. There has been many other resources such as the great mystic Blessed Elena who has said much on the furture of Russia as well, which has not come to fruition. We will all see soon enough.
     
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  17. Bret Baier is now doing a segment about this Russian provocation on FOX "Special Report". 6:41 Eastern
     
  18. Poland and Estonia et al are shaking in their boots since they, like the Ukraine cannot count on any help from the U.S......not even for weapons. After making sure that Poland and the Czechs would not have the promised missile defense systems we have the ongoing promise from Obama of even "more flexibility" for Mr. Putin.
     
  19. picadillo

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    No comment needed.


    Good news for the cold-showering, snow-covered Ukrainians... Russia has reached an interim agreement to supply natural gas to Ukraine through March according to Bloomberg. Of course, this will be paid for by more IMF loans (thank you US Taxpayer), pushing Ukraine further into debt and more dependent upon the West.

    • *RUSSIA CONFIRMS GAS SUPPLY RESUMPTION TERMS AGREED WITH UKRAINE
    • *GAZPROM, NAFTOGAZ CEOS SIGN AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT
    • *RUSSIA, UKRAINE, EU AGREEMENT TO COVER DELIVERY THROUGH MARCH
    Terms...

    • *OETTINGER: RUSSIA TO CHARGE UKRAINE $385/KCM THROUGH MARCH
    • *UKRAINE READY TO IMMEDIATELY PAY $1.45B OF GAS DEBT: OETTINGER
    • *NAFTOGAZ TO PAY $1.6B AS 2ND GAS DEBT INSTALLMENT BY YEAR-END
    Paid for by US taxpayers...

    • *UKRAINE TO USE EU, IMF AID TO PAY FOR RUSSIAN GAS: OETTINGER
    As Bloomberg reports,



    Ukraine and Russia reached an interim natural-gas supply deal in talks brokered by the European Union to secure flows before the heating season, a Russian Energy Ministry spokeswoman said.



    The accord agreed by Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak, his Ukrainian counterpart, Yuri Prodan, and EU Energy Commissioner Guenther Oettinger will enable resumption of deliveries of gas from Russia to Ukraine after they were halted in June in a pricing and debt conflict.



    Russian Energy Ministry spokeswoman Olga Golant, speaking by phone, confirmed the agreement.



    The 28-nation EU was seeking to avoid a repeat of 2006 and 2009, when disputes between the former Soviet republics over gas debts and prices led to fuel transit disruptions and shortages across Europe amid freezing temperatures.
     
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