Here it comes...

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by kathy k, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    You know Miker as a guy in the industry I could go on and on about how the future looks bright as corporate profits and expectations are on the rise and how inflation is low and GDP is rising and the market on an earnings (PE) basis is cheap historically at 17x forward earnings vs 19 as the avg over the past 25 years etc etc but the reality is that it is all smoke and mirrors. Those things I mentioned are true but how can they matter when the US economy sits as one of the worst in the world as far debt levels and current account deficits etc. Sure you can say that it doesn't matter when the US owns a printing press to issue treasuries and then print their own money to buy them as well as the fact that US is the last game in town as far as how the world thinks in finances. When there is panic in the stock markets of the world they all buy US bonds and dollars which makes no economic sense given the US is house of cards sitting in sand on a windy day, but that is what happens. Yes I agree this bubble can only stay afloat so long and then it must fall but sadly it will take global disaster to make the whole house of cards fall and that is where I think we are headed. It is all phony and propped up but what do you do? Go to cash? Bonds? gold? what is the point, when it all collapses it will all be worthless except the gold but the moment you try to barter or trade with your gold you just put a bullseye on your back. Play the game while it is here to be played then leave it in the hands of God.
     
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  2. MMM

    MMM Guest

    ezekiel 7:19

    19 Their silver shall be cast forth, and their gold shall become a dunghill. Their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord. They shall not satisfy their soul, and their bellies shall not be filled: because it hath been the stumblingblock of their iniquity.
     
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  3. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Amen mmm
     
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  4. Torrentum

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  5. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I think the best thing to invest in today is a few good garden hoe's, some seed, a yard pump and maybe a milking goat (y)
     
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  6. Everywhere I look I see technology and big brother invading our lives so much its like a never ending treadmill of 'hurry, hurry! get on!'. I want to get rid of my computer and my TV and my phone. The family would have a fit! We are all sucked in like the consumers we are! When reading The End Times by Maria Valtorta, Jesus says this:

    Aug. 18th 1943 The overcomers of Apocalypse 2:7


    Jesus says:

    “ I continue to explain to you the passages that I think timely.

    It is said: ‘To the one who overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life…’ That thought has been applied to Me.

    “Yes, I am the tree of eternal life and give Myself to you people as food in the Eucharist, and seeing Me will be the overcomers’ joyful food in the next life. But there is another meaning unknown to many, precisely because many who comment upon Me are not ‘overcomers.’

    “Who is an overcomer? What does it take to be one? Works ringing in heroism? No, then those who overcome would be too few. Overcomers are those who overcome thinin themselves the Beast that would like to get the upper hand of them. In truth, between the dreadful but brief martyrdom assisted by supernatural and natural factors, and the secret, unknown and constant struggle, the one of greater weight on God’s scales—or at least the one of a weight of a different, precious kind—is the struggle.

    “No tyrant is worse than the flesh and the Devil. And those who can overcome the flesh and the Devil and turn their flesh to a spirit and the Devil into a loser, they are the overcomers.

    But to be such they need to have given themselves totally to Love. Totally! Those who love with all their strength keep nothing for themselves, and keeping nothing for themselves keep nothing for the flesh or for the devil. They give their God everything and God gives those who love Him everything. “…….
     
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  7. Elsewhere in the book Jesus says that the BEAST is political power at the devil's service. Elsewhere Jesus explains that Babylon is the whole Earth.

    ..."And you do not always have the strength to remain faithful, because you have spirits not fed on love and Gospel. You bend to human slaveries, you who consider obeying God's commandments to be unworthy of human beings. And for a man or several men you lose God's most beautiful gift: free will. You are puppets moved by one or several men. You could have been, in this life and beyond, free beings of the kingdom of God your Father.

    "Move away, break away, as much as you can, from the laws of the Beast. Leave the Beast. Its doom is already sealed. When God's ax chops off the horrible Beast's parts which torture the Earth and and the forerunners of the Unity of Evil (NWO?) which will devastate the Earth, see to it that you are very far from them as they hurtle down to the abysmal furnace as the rotten limbs of this manifestation of dread.

    Babylon, which is now arising and will have its climax of dominion, shall be succeeded one day by holy Jerusalem. See to it that on that day and on the endless Day you be not marked with the mark of Babylon's mighty, of the lesser lucifers, of Satan's offshoots and outgrowths, see to it you be marked with the holy, unmistakable, glorious sign of the Son of God." (through consecration!!)

    THIS WAS NOVEMBER 19TH--1943 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  8. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Might be changing the subject but...have you ever noticed it looks like everyone is praying. It looks like they are worshipping. Sometimes, i wonder about that(n)
     
  9. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    Can you explain?
     
  10. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Look around...everyone, has their hands clasped in deep concentration.
     
  11. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers


    check, check and check but unfortunately the HOA won't be too happy with a goat ha ha. Maybe when I need something the Lord will send me an animal for my needs like he did for Abraham!
     
  12. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I don't follow and have looked around often and don't see much prayer. I feel like the scene in the train station with Gabriall Bossi and the Lord in France when she was praying and the Lord gave her great thanks and told her she was the only one praying and talking to the Lord in that entire busy train station. I hope you are right but I think of that often and always make sure to be talking with the Lord especially when I am in a crowd of so many souls so that I know at least one person is giving him glory, praise and love but I am also asking Him to poke another on the shoulder so there will be at least 2! Just two days ago I was in a meeting with a client and her entire team: attorney, CPA, advisors, trusted son, etc. This is a Jewish family with so much wealth and I think she is a wonderful treasure of a woman and yet after 90 years she stand so strong on her politics and liberal beliefs and has funded planned parenthood for many many years. It always saddens my heart. In the middle of this meeting after hearing a story of what I can't remember, I just felt the urge to call out to Our Mother and prayed the Hail Mary. I got to thinking that this was probably the first time ever, Our Mother was thought of in this home and hopefully that little prayer helped bring Our Mother into everyone's heart.
     
  13. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Andy, I see you're in the business. Against my broker's advice, I went all cash last Friday. He tried his hardest to talk me out of it, but I'm pretty sure the Storm is a coming to the market as well and at least it was "something" material I could do while also preparing spiritually. Now what to buy with those dollars. Seed for sure. Not sure what else. praying about it daily and waiting to be led to the answer.
     
  14. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I have been buying things for years and personally went to cash and US short term bonds (the dollar and the US bond are the last game in town before global collapse in the paper assets category) back in April but at the end of they day it does not matter. Use some cash for stuff needed now if inspired to but at the same time I feel that with full trust in God then the stuff does not matter unless we are to provide for others with it.

    Mathew 6:
    [19] Lay not up to yourselves treasures on earth: where the rust, and moth consume, and where thieves break through and steal. [20] But lay up to yourselves treasures in heaven: where neither the rust nor moth doth consume, and where thieves do not break through, nor steal.
    [21] For where thy treasure is, there is thy heart also. [22] The light of thy body is thy eye. If thy eye be single, thy whole body shall be lightsome. [23] But if thy eye be evil thy whole body shall be darksome. If then the light that is in thee, be darkness: the darkness itself how great shall it be! [24] No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. [25] Therefore I say to you, be not solicitous for your life, what you shall eat, nor for your body, what you shall put on. Is not the life more than the meat: and the body more than the raiment?

    [26] Behold the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor gather into barns: and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not you of much more value than they? [27] And which of you by taking thought, can add to his stature by one cubit? [28] And for raiment why are you solicitous? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they labour not, neither do they spin. [29] But I say to you, that not even Solomon in all his glory was arrayed as one of these. [30] And if the grass of the field, which is today, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, God doth so clothe: how much more you, O ye of little faith?

    [31] Be not solicitous therefore, saying, What shall we eat: or what shall we drink, or wherewith shall we be clothed? [32] For after all these things do the heathens seek. For your Father knoweth that you have need of all these things. [33] Seek ye therefore first the kingdom of God, and his justice, and all these things shall be added unto you. [34] Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.

    [24] Mammon: That is, riches, worldly interest.
     
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  15. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    Yep, totally agree and that's what I told my wife and thankfully neither she nor I look at money as anything more than a necessary evil to provide for our family. I told her I don't think we'll ever get to use most of that cash, but at least it's liquidated and we now can start to react quickly if and when . . .
     
  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I know little or nothing about economics; bit isn't a lot of this bubble to do with greed?
     
  17. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Greed and necessity from the US government to operate. The US like any country needs cash to operate daily budgets. They usually sell Treasury Bonds promising interest to the holder of the bond to get the cash needed. In the past few years foreign governments have not wanted to buy US bonds since the rates were so low and out national debt level was so high. So what the Federal Reserve has done is print new dollars putting new cash in circulation and using that cash to buy their new bonds they are issuing. It is economic long term suicide because it is supposes to devalue your currency, but when you are the US and the dollar is the world reserve currency you can get away with this. There are of course very simple solutions to this problem and that would be to lower government and stop wasting so much money as we do.

    That is probably enough of economics for now. At the end of the day the US is broke and the world knows it. We are a house of cards built on sand with a storm out at sea working towards shore. Since China used to be a large buyer of our debt they pretty much own the US and in the past few years they don't want our worthless paper in bonds and instead have been buying or owning and operating our infrastructure, ports, land, etc.
     
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  19. Kclark

    Kclark Principalities

    We see signs every where but things our on Gods time.... What if it is another 1000 years before the warning or chastisement?
     
  20. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    You are right: all signs point to this being the end of the age. All around us, evil is coming to full measure. As for the warning, who knows? Regardless, the end of our personal age is coming for sure. The death rate is one each.

    The chastisement is here. God never changes, and He has a long history of allowing people to reap what they sow. With our collective pride, worship of false idols, and slaughter of the innocents, we have sown the wind and are now reaping the whirlwind. Strap in tight, in the Immaculate Heart of Mary!
     

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