30 years ago today...the world and thus Russia where consecrated

On March 25th 1984... the Consecration of the World and thus Russia... were properly Consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary... as our Lady of Fatima had requested. I thank God for pope John Paul II for his obedience to our Lady's request. Lucia said the Consecration was valid in her own writings as instructed by our Lady. If Lucia says it is so...then it is so. Who are we to argue? If you do not believe her...then one must presume she may also be lying on other matters pertaining to our Lady...right ? I believe she is being truthful and the Consecration is complete. To argue otherwise is to put ones opinion above Lucia's and our Lady's.
I know this will stir a hornets nest...but 30 years on...we need to put it to rest and trust our Lady. It has been accomplished!

 

I don't think anyone here is not trusting Our Lady or Sr. Lucia. The issue is trusting that both Our Lady and Sr. Lucia said it was completed. This information was reportedly conveyed through Cardinal Bertone and this is where people have questions. I'll leave it to others to give a more detailed response, but please do not think we do not trust Our Lady. Quite the opposite.

 

There is a recent video of Chris Ferrara reading the transcript of the year 2000 Vatican news conference at the time they released what they said was the Third Secret. In the transcript Cardinal Ratzinger is asked about the efforts of Fr. Gurner towards the consecration of Russia. Cardinal Ratzinger replies that the Church must have the freedom to decide when to do the consecration of Russia and that the Church has not seen it as the appropriate time yet.

If I can dig up the video later I will.

But even Cardinal Ratzinger has publicly admitted the consecration of Russia has not yet been done according to the transcript read in the video.

 

Here's the video in which Ferrara reads from the transcript of the year 2000 Vatican news conference the words of Cardinal Ratzinger concerning the consecration, beginning at 48:50 but especially right at 50:00 minutes into the video:

 

I don't know if the consecration has been done properly or not but I do remember when they released the 3rd secret. I remember watching Mother Angelica after it had been read and the look she gave was so priceless. She didn't say it was not true but you could tell by the look on her face she thought "Is that it! What we've been waiting so long for."

God Bless!

 

http://allanlopesdossantos.com/2014...olics-implore-for-the-consecration-of-russia/

 

Tim....the 'proof is in the pudding' so to speak. Where do you see signs of peace that the consecration was to bring about? Please clue me in, because I don't see any fruits of the 1984 consecration being manifested in 30 years, in reference to the peace that would ensue as promised by our Lady of Fatima . Am I missing something here? To the contrary the world has never been in a more volatile state for war, anarchy, corruption as it is today. I would contend that the consecration to the WORLD did buy some time, but the time is up and now we will suffer the consequences that Father Malachi Martin was shown through a Cardinal he worked for who was given a copy of the authentic 3rd secret of Fatima, by pope John XXIII, in 1960 and talked about in some detail.

 

For those who have missed this version of the 3rd secret of Fatima as explained by God to Verne Dagenais in www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org it is worth reading. I believe it to be spot on.

09/04/07 P.M.

This is a message to clear up your confusion regarding the 3rd Secret of Fatima and the Second Vatican Council. This is an area causing division, fighting, and schism in my church. Sister Lucy had stated: The 3rd Secret of Fatima was to be released by 1960. Many traditionalist Catholics interpret this to mean the 3rd Secret is about the Second Vatican Council. This is a deception given by the Father of Lies – Satan. My Blessed Mother has revealed the essence of the 3rd Secret of Fatima through other
apparitions. It deals with apostasy and loss of faith in the Catholic Church amongst other issues. These facts have been substantiated by priests and cardinals in my church. Even at Akita, Japan, my Blessed Mother warned of apostasy and cardinals, bishops, and priests fighting against each other. Division is not from God, but from Satan. A council, called by the Holy Father and attended by the Bishops of the World, is not satanic. It was called by my Holy Spirit. Do my people think they know better than my spirit? My vicar is the head of my church and is led by my Holy Spirit. Read Ecclesiasticus 3:22. Seek not the things that are too high for thee, and search not into things above thy ability, but the things which God hath commanded thee, think on them always and in many of his words be not curious. My people need to follow these words. Stop trying to be the Pope and tell him how to lead my church. You have not been given the mission to be Pope. If you cause rebellion, schism, and rebellion against my true Popes, you are in rebellion against myself, Jesus Christ. The things which God has commanded thee are to be in obedience to His church, and to obey His church’s teachings and commandments. In my church, many voices not of me, are seeking your attention. These voices can be from priests, bishops, religious, and laymen. Any voice, which leads you to schism against my son the Pope, do not listen to them. These voices are led by their own pride, and influenced by the father of lies –Satan. For Satan knows if he can cause division in my church, many souls will be lost forever to hell.

As you have read, for many years Masonic and communistic forces have tried to destroy my church. Recently, in your news, masons in Mexico and Italy are openly trying to persecute my church. In your
country, the 1960’s brought in a culture of sin and relativism. This brought about a rejection of God and his commandments. This is the lie and the deception, which has caused the problems in your world and my church. It is the cry of Satan: I will not serve.

You cannot blame the Second Vatican Council for the increase in the sins of the flesh: homosexuality, abortion, murder, and all the sins of your age. You cannot blame the Second Vatican Council for the decrease in vocations, lack of reverence and attendance at the Holy Mass. The blame is my people compromising with the world, rebelling against the Holy Father, and believing the lies, deception, and the words of Satan. The problems of today had their beginnings many years prior to the 1960’s. This decade brought the problems into the open. Masonry, in all its diabolical forms, infiltrated my church many years prior to the Second Vatican Council. During those turbulent years, masons were elevated to positions of authority in my church. Those Masonic forces were unleashed from the pit of hell and caused the problems in your world today. My people, rejection of God establishes the reign of Satan in your midst. Read my word. All of these events were prophesied and are being fulfilled before your eyes. My word must be fulfilled. Satan is clever. He is much more intelligent than you. He is using Vatican II as a deceptive lie to hide the real cause for the division in my church. The real cause for the division is the pride of mankind, the rejection of God, and many in my church making compromises with Satan. He knows if the real truth was revealed, the church would be unified, and he would be defeated. This present and continuing purification is exposing the lies and deception of Satan. My church will be as I want it: humble, persecuted, and a light to the world. It will once again follow in my footsteps to Calvary, and to a glorious resurrection. To repeat, the Second Vatican Council is not the cause of the problems in my church. The cause is the pride of my people who compromise with the demon. Those who cause division and schism
in my church do not listen or follow them. For heresy can occur from many different directions. Those who deny my church’s teachings, whether labeled liberals or traditionalists, are promoting heresy. Pray for these souls. My people, The Holy Father is correcting these errors. If you would follow his guidance, you will not fall into schism and division. He has clearly defined the substance of the Holy Mass and the true meaning of my church. Continue fighting the Holy Father and you are fighting against God. The day will come when a false antipope will try and lead my church. If you are in a state of rebellion against my church now, will you even recognize a false pope? Remember, my sheep hear my voice, and I know them and they follow me. Can you hear my voice if you are in rebellion, causing division in my church? You cannot if your pride is a stumbling block in your life to my graces. Repent of your sins and implore my mercy. These words apply to bishops, priests, religious, and lay people. No one is excluded. You are either with me or against me. You cannot be a servant in my kingdom and the kingdom of Satan with your pride at the same time. Repent today. Tomorrow will be too late. Judgment is already beginning in the house of God, and expanding to the ungodly. Do not sit on the fence any longer. You want my blessing. Be submissive to my church and its teaching, and I will bless you. If you refuse to listen to my warnings, you could be deceived and spend eternity in hell. Hell is filled with bishops, priests, and religious who refused to be obedient to my church. For my word proclaims, I Kings 15:22b-23a. For obedience is better than sacrifices: and to hearken rather than to offer the fat of rams. Because it is like the sin of witchcraft, to rebel: and like the crime of idolatry, to refuse to obey. Read Apocalypse 22:15. Without are dogs and sorcerers and unchaste ands murderers and servers of idols and every one that loveth and maketh a lie. You cannot enter my kingdom with these sins on your soul. Without true repentance, you will spend
eternity in hell. My people do not give into the lies and deception of Satan. Focus on myself, Jesus Christ only, and let me lead you into the era of peace and life everlasting. These are the words of the Lord.

 

All of you raise intelligent and intriguing questions and supposed answers...yet none can suffice to answer properly or sufficiently answer Lucia's very own letters. https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/Fatima1984.htm

She clearly states in the letters...the Consecration has been accepted. Honestly...what more can be said. Either she lied or she told the truth. Lucia most certainly did not lie...nor did she lie about the events of Fatima. She tells the truth.

Call me crazy...but do you know a nuclear war was averted in 1985 because of the Consecration. Do you know that many evil priest and their dastardly deeds have been exposed and they are being run out of the Temple. Do you know that the Freemasons power over the power of Vatican finances are being shattered. Do you know that God is separating those true believers from the false. Yes...the Consecration has been made and the Church is painfully and slowly being transformed. A true conversion. Long awaited and overdue.

This isn't Broomhida the witch ( Blessed Mother) who waves the wade and everything is peachy king. This is the New Nation of Israel who worships God in Truth and Spirit struggling in the desert to reach the Promised Land.
Our Lady is holding our hand and seeks our trust. The Consecration has been made so watch and see the miracles God provides even if its not to our liking.

As for Russia...the people of Crimea have chosen freely by the majority of people to join Russia...why do we care and why do we see it as a threat. There is threat...only one generated by the "Evil Western Empire". You know ...the one that promotes any and every anti -Christian agenda it can. Look in the mirror...our governments are the "Bad Guys" in this movie.

 

Tim.... I see now where you are coming from. You are using Father Robert Fox's written statement allegedly from Sister Lucia for your position. Let me say this much. I knew and visited with Father Fox. I visited his shrine in Alexandria, SD several times. He introduced me to our Lady of Soufanieh, in which I bought her icon picture from him, which he blessed. He was my Fatima mentor from early on. It was his Fatima Family Apostolate and the Blue Army magazine that formed me, from my earliest days of my conversion, to Our Lady of Fatima. It is because of his magazine that I threw away anything that come from Father Gruner and the Fatima Crusader magazine. I believed the lie that was propagated in his magazine that Father Gruner was not even a real priest and he lies about the consecration.

Sadly, only since participating in this MOG forum, did I come about and studied extensively the Fatima Path to Peace Conference, held by Father Gruner in Canada last year, and I saw how I was mistaken about Father Gruner and the Fatima Crusader. I also found out much about Father Fox's apostolate that I did not know for nearly 30 years. I found out that his report that allegedly came from Sister Lucia, whom he did know well, was not exactly truthful. I can dig back and get this information, but will leave it up to those who doubt this, like I did, to do your own research so you can be convinced as I am now that my friend Father Fox was misleading in some ways as well.

 

Everyone seems to discredit Father Fox...ok...lets leys say it true. But no one ever mentions the letter to St Mary of Bethlehem. We have not one...but two letters of testimony from Lucia saying the Consecration was excepted. Will 3 letters...10 letters...or perhaps 100 letters ever be enough from Lucia? Yesterday marked 30 years since the Consecration...much evil has been brought to light...and the Holy Spirit is moving the Church in righting the wrongs. The Holy Spirit is stirring the Church. This period of conversion and rivers of mercy are proof that the Consecration was made.

 

You see this present moment as 'the period of conversion and rivers of mercy as proof the consecration was made'? Where is these conversions taking place currently? Conversions to what? To the acceptance of the fullness of truth within the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church? Or to sensationalism of some who think Pope Francis is changing doctrines on divorce and remarriage or homosexuality or within the media who love the free-spirit of Francis? I see very few signs of true conversions taking place anywhere and don't expect to until the great Warning takes place. We currently live in the worst of times as our Lady is constantly repeating in many prophecies today. 30 years of degradation and mass exodus of the one truth faith since 1984 is evident enough to me that the consecration as specifically stated by our Lady of Fatima in 1917 has not taken place and is forthcoming.

 

But such an interpretation of these times relies on a denial of the prophecies at Akita. Unless you believe that 'men have indeed repented and bettered themselves', then this is what you can expect to happen:

“If men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the Bishops and the priests.

“The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see Cardinals opposing Cardinals (happening now http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/), Bishops against other Bishops. The priests who venerate Me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres (other priests). Churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises, and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

“The demon will be especially implacable against the souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of My sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will no longer be pardon for them.

“...Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary. I alone am able to still save you from the calamities which approach. Those who place their confidence in Me will be saved.”

 

When I speak of conversions I speak of conversion of hearts. To me the flood gates of Divine Mercy where opened when John Paul II proclaimed the Sunday after Easter Mercy Sunday. It is an incredible grace...give a sincere confession and then mass and pray for the pope. You will be forgiven and all temporal punishment is wiped out. Did you hear this...all temporal punishment is wiped out. I can only hope to die after Mercy Sunday!
The Ocean of Gods Mercy is open to any and all...incredible! Only the Conscrecration could have opened this flood of Goodness and Mercy upon the world. How many souls will avail themselves of this incredible grace? After the Warning and Miracle it will be the healing balm for this wounded world.
Can you not see...have you not heard...the God of our Salvation is saving the world.

We have become so myoptic in the West...as if the Spirit of God was silent in the rest of the world. God is moving powerfully in South America, Africa and Asia. We have become so fixated on our own sinfulness and failure...we have become imprisioned by our own self importance...yet the Power of Gods Holy Spirit is changing the World. I find my own self often seeing only the negative in this Western World...forgetting Gods Love and Mercy is for the whole World.

Our Lady calls us from disaster...that disaster that comes to mens hearts when they do not respond to Gods Mercy.

Russia will stir the pot...hopefully we recognize the time of our visitation.

 

It ain't no rosy picture. This present age is much worse than the time of the Flood, when the world was purified by water. So great is the sin of the present age that purification will come by fire (Akita) if man does not repent.

30 July 1987 message Medjugorje our Lady stated 'Children, darkness reigns over the whole world'.

25 Nov 2001' hatred reigns in the world'.

 

Tim... the flood gates of God's mercy have always been open. Divine Mercy Sunday is a gift for the Church to those who participate in it. Few do. Churches are empty all over the world. Our Lady has been calling us to conversion since La Sallette in 1846. No one listened then and a million died from famine as Our Lady foretold. Our Lady of Fatima came in 1917 with another message and a peace plan....few have listened. She came again in Garabandal 1961-65....few listened. She came again in 1981 in Akita, Japan with more dire warnings.....few listened. She came at Kibeho, Africa, gave 12 years of preparation and because no one listened 1 million died in 90 days.... Do you see the pattern?

Just because God open's up the flood gates of his mercy, does not mean people are standing in line to receive them. Because the consecration of Fatima did not take place as our Lady requested, instead of peace, we are now facing the greatest evil of global war ever. Russia will indeed stir the pot and they are doing that right now in the Ukraine. It will escalate from there into a global conflict there will be no stopping. This is what our Lady has been saying....but few are listening.

 

South America becomes less and less Catholic losing souls to Protestantism and secularism. Venezuela is on the point of civil war, corruption is rampant in most of the sub-Continent which is the source of supply for the US and Europe of deadly drugs by men who are happy to kill their customers as well as their competitors, aided by corrupt police and officials.

Aids is rampant in Africa, most governments are corrupt and care little for their poor though accepting billions in mostly misused and misappropriated aid. Think of Zimbabwe where evil rules as it has done for decades.

China is still in the grip of an anti-Christian Communist government that is also rampantly corrupt and where civil rights are strictly limited. India is a mess where there is supposed to be free education but the budget is stolen and hardly any free education is supplied.

Where is this place where men and women have surrendered to the Holy Spirit and Jesus reigns?

 

Fr Gruner will be speaking at the Bayside Anniversary banquet on June 22

http://www.smwa.org/eAlert/2014_03_29.htm

 

Does it look like Russia has quit spreading its errors to you?

For a detailed explanation that Our Lady's request at Fatima has yet to be satisfied, see:

http://www.devilsfinalbattle.com/content2.htm

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Is Bayside valid? I thought I had read that it was not, but do not know enough about it.