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Ren,

Are you serious? There is only one way to read this without twisting its meaning? Pope Francis is from the devil. Very anti-Catholic if you ask me. Please wake up.

 

Whoa.................! Hold on....... you have a lot of quotes and a lot of prophesy PLUS your own input there....

Lets take this one by one...shall we??
First off, I have never heard of this prophesy by St. Francis. I HAVE heard similar by other saints and blesseds however...
1. You have to set aside all the so called prophesy and statements by the sede-vacantists that all popes after John XXIII are false. Its a lie. PERIOD. ITS A DECEITFUL LIE TO SAY THE HOLY FATHERS WERE NOT VALIDLY ELECTED.

2. Jesus has PROMISED that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. We WILL ALWAYS have ONE validly elected Pontiff. IF THERE IS A POWER STRUGGLE--IF WE SEE as we have seen BEFORE in history, where a King elects a Pope, a 'false church' elects a pope--it ain't the real pope is it??? NOPE.

3. You need to read more good orthodox websites that quote what Pope Francis is REALLY saying. NOT some tabloid (although many have gotten it wrong lately huh?) What I see is the holy Father 'spending himself' --pouring himself out to show ALL --that we are ALL sinners---NOT ELITISTS! The Catechism of the Catholic Church says THE CHURCH WILL BE CRUCIFIED.... crucified....CRUCIFIED! Before it is purified and RESURRECTED.....this is NOT pretty!!

Let me help you here. I see what you are seeing and I understand this. We have to be very careful here because the evil one would love to mess with our heads...(seriously)...If I said to you that we were called to all share food and all our worldly goods to help one another that would be a good thing right? No one would go hungry etc. THIS IS WHAT THE CHURCH TEACHES. However, Communism teaches that there is NO ONE above another, all will work for the greater good of the state and all will get the same --you sacrifice all for the State, which feeds you....How is that different??

The difference is that what the Church teaches is voluntary and out of the goodness of our hearts in gratitude for what God has given us. NOT because we have to. The Pope is NOT lying and he is not all mixed up. The evil one is creating chaos and fear.

Jesus said at his Sermon on the Mount when he taught the Our Father to all who were there, "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven." The ONLY way this can be done is if ALL are under one shepherd ONE PERSON AT A TIME. Our Lady at Medjugore said, "All those who were living their faith and loved God with ALL THEIR HEARTS AND SOULS" were pleasing to God. Man has divided and God unites. She also said, "The Catholic Church holds the FULLNESS of truth and faith." This is biblical!!

AND--------THE CATECHISM TALKS ABOUT THE JEWS CONVERTING FIRST (that goes with the 'may all be one senerio...)
674 The glorious Messiah’s coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by “all Israel,” for “a hardening has come upon part of Israel” in their “unbelief” toward Jesus.569 St. Peter says to the Jews of Jerusalem after Pentecost: “Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for establishing all that God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets from of old.”570 St. Paul echoes him: “For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?”571 The “full inclusion” of the Jews in the Messiah’s salvation, in the wake of “the full number of the Gentiles,”572 will enable the People of God to achieve “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,” in which “God may be all in all.”573 (840, 58)

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THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH.


Malachi Martin did not say that the Pope of the end times would be full of the devil....I have listened to the exact tape many times....what he did say was this: RIGHT OUT OF THE CATECHISM!

The Church’s ultimate trial


675 Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.574 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth575 will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form ofa religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth.The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianismby which man glorifies himself in place of Godand of his Messiah come in the flesh.576 (769)

5. Rome becoming the seat of the Anti-Christ. Hasn't happened yet. Are there wolves in there? Yep! Do they want to bring down the Church? Yep! Are they trying to influence the Holy Father by advising him NOT to Consecrate Russia to our Lady?? Yep! Yep! BUT......its not the Holy Father who is evil here. Pope Leo XIII was given the vision of Satan talking to God about destroying the Church within one Century and God gave him the 20th Century....many researchers have said that that time did not start until the apparition of Fatima which was 1917. Others argue it was at 12:01 Jan 1st, 1900. NO ONE KNOWS. What we DO KNOW is that our Lady appeared more times in the 20th Century than all the other centuries put together, AND that the request at Fatima WAS NOT DONE.


We also know God the Father gave us TWO --very HOLY POLISH Popes as bookends for the 2oth Century. Pope Pius X and John Paul II. S00000.....it aint over till its over. I have vagely heard of Pope Pius X having a vision, but its not well known I think, if it is true at all.


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This is absolutely false and by believing this I fear you fall into satan's trap. WE CANNOT GO BACK. What Pope Francis is doing is showing the World that the Church is a MERCIFUL CHURCH....A FORGIVING CHURCH...A CHURCH OF LOVE AND SALVATION...AND A CHURCH FOR ALL. This IS IN FACT WHAT CHRIST TEACHES. Its time. Its not a time for fear! We have to LOVE the homosexuals into wanting to know what is right and wrong (because the world says they are right to be sexually active) The Church TEACHES that we are to treat them with LOVE AND DIGNITY. Read it in the Catechism! That goes with all the others that we want to ostracize and forgo loving. We WILL BE JUDGED on how much we loved---NOT on how well we hid and kept our neighbor out of our lives and condemned them. We must be very, very careful here NOT to compromise our standards and love with the world's TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE.


Pope Francis' example of hugging the afflicted, kissing the untouchables, giving dignity to homosexuals who are doing something good and decent for the world and with their lives is SO HOLY, SO LOVING AND SO MERCIFUL!


I hope this helps.

 

Pope John Paul II showed the world the FACE of the Church. He was the most beloved and most traveled Pope in the History of the Church. He was a model priest, bishop and Pope. He also showed those who were so boxed in by 'pomp and circumstance' that laughing and visiting those who are against you (Jews, Muslims etc.) is a GOOD THING. Sure shit was happening within the Church under his feet...but he WAS guided by our Lady and he accomplished what he was suppose to do. He assured us in his suffering and confidence, BE NOT AFRAID! He rolled us into the 21st Century and he bravely asked the world for forgiveness for the Church's sins...something I'll never forget. I was in awe.!

Benedict XVI gave us all his brilliant mind could give. He 're-ordered' the Mass the way it was suppose to be and corrected what was wrong, he in his quiet confident way gave us quotes and encyclicals to help us understand the times we are living in RIGHT NOW. He was severely persecuted from within (he gave us many signs to show us) and from the get-go knew he was the prime target for the masonic infiltrators wanting to take him down one way or another. I would vote him into sainthood TODAY....he is the epitome of priesthood, prophet and king--what we are all called to. All that for a guy who didn't want to be pope in the first place! My favorite quote written on the wall in my kitchen:
“Dear friends, may no adversity paralyze you. Be afraid neither of the world, nor of the future, nor of your weakness. The Lord has allowed you to live in this moment of history so that, by your faith, his name will continue to resound throughout the world.”

Pope Francis --"Since many of you do not belong to the Catholic Church and others are non-believers, from the bottom of my heart I give this silent blessing to each and every one of you, respecting the conscience of each one of you but knowing that each one of you is a child of God."

"It is true that going out on to the street implies the risk of accidents happening, as they would to any ordinary man or woman. But if the church stays wrapped up in itself, it will age. And if I had to choose between a wounded church that goes out on to the streets and a sick, withdrawn church, I would definitely choose the first one."

"Leaders of the Church have often been Narcissus, flattered and sickeningly excited by their courtiers. The court is the leprosy of the papacy."

"The Son of God became incarnate in the souls of men to instill the feeling of brotherhood. All are brothers and all children of God."

"We must not reduce the bosom of the universal church to a nest protecting our mediocrity."

"Unrestrained liberalism only makes the strong stronger and the weak weaker and excludes the most excluded."

"I sincerely hope I can contribute to the progress there has been in relations between Jews and Catholics since the Second Vatican Council in a spirit of renewed collaboration."

"A church without women would be like the apostolic college without Mary. The Madonna is more important than the apostles, and the church herself is feminine, the spouse of Christ and a mother."

"A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: 'Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' We must always consider the person."

"Despite the slowness, the infidelity, the errors and sins it committed and might still commit against its members, the Church, trust me, has no other meaning and goal but to live and witness Jesus."

"First of all, you ask me if the God of Christians forgives one who doesn't believe and doesn't seek the faith. Premise that - and it's the fundamental thing - the mercy of God has no limits if one turns to him with a sincere and contrite heart; the question for one who doesn't believe in God lies in obeying one's conscience."

"Agape, the love of each one of us for the other, from the closest to the furthest, is in fact the only way that Jesus has given us to find the way of salvation and of the Beatitudes."


These words are of an anti-christ?? NO WAY!

 

Yes, our St. Francis of assisi prophecies said it himself, search it and read it and Malachi Martin really did agreed when he was asked a question from other people through that interviewer weather the Pope of the end times is fully controlled by the devil, and this is what Malachi said: sounds like they are being told or have read it(3rd secret of Fatima) sounds like it. That word slipped from his tongue when he was suppose to be under oath not to tell it. I know it's sad and heart breaking, our church will be crucified over again and Catholic Christians will be divided as stated by St. Francis of Assisi. Also God never said that we can break the ten commandments and if the person is not sorry how will he forgive him/her. Pope Francis is subtly deceptive, the reason? he wants all religions to be combined into one (coming soon)= apostasy, it really sounds like apostasy and that is a sign that he is not of God. Jesus's mercy is unlimited, only if we asked for forgiveness, not to the unrepentant atheist who obeys what he think is right(contrary to the ten commandments) from his conscience, for if the law of God is not on their hearts how else is his/her conscience is right?. As for the pagans the sin that they believe is murder the other ones like idolatry, adultery etc. is tolerated. Pope Francis sounds like a modernist too, he is very questionable: (atheist gets saved without acknowledging God and Jesus) is deception not the authentic teachings of God for that only means that Jesus died on the cross and saved automatically everyone who rejects Him together with the believers (really? even if atheist don't love Him?). St. Francis said that those who follows the prophecied Pope Francis ( wolf in sheeps clothing )will be drawn to error & death( body & soul) coming from St. Francis words not mine. I don't believe in Medjugorje and Vassula anymore they are unauthentic false to me imho, but garabandal I do believe. I'm very scared about this change in the church I would rather believe in God and be loyal in this times than obey to a man that is lying subtly little by little. To be fair just please choose who you'd believe & follow. The Warning will tell all and tries to unite us anyways( whats in the darkness will soon come to light). The freemasons are inside our church hindering the publishing of the 3rd secret of Fatima. peace my friends.

 

With as much charity as I can generate after reading the above, you are wrong and potentially heretical in accusing Pope Francis who was absolutely cannonically elected of being "controlled the devil". Past posters have been banned from thus site for less. I'm VERY DISAPPONTED that your post is even allowed. Maybe it's time fir me to go if this type of post us allowed here. Disgusting.

 

Regarding the first picture: this is the man that embraced the Pope at the Saint Peters Square. He said in an interview: "When the Pope embraced me, it was like Paradise. He did not even think about it if he should or not embrace me. I am not contagious but he did not know that. He caressed me on the entire face and when he did that, I only felt love".

Regarding the second picture: no comments are needed...

 

Sounds like you are a devout follower of MDM. No, that is not what Malachi Martin said. I've said enough. With all charity in love, you need to quit reading these St. Francis messages and MDM.

 

Looks to me that what we're dealing with here is an instance of confusion that has become quite common and rests on a logical error. Obviously it is true that there is a great deal of alleged prophecy out there speaking of a coming conflict within the Catholic Church (not only in Catholic sources, I might add). However, to take the example of Pedro Regis mentioned on another thread, this is linked to the idea that there will at some point be an illegitimate Pope (PR's prophecy - made before Benedict XVI became Pope Emeritus(!) - is that there will be two Popes, only one of whom will be legitimate).

What some people simply don't get is that this cannot be Pope Francis as his election was absolutely correct canonically. Theologically he cannot therefore be the one to lead the Church into apostasy as that would imply doctrinal changes, which he is protected (whatever else he may do) against making by the charism of infallibility. This is where the interpretations offered by MDM et al. have gone awry and curiously join those of certain over-zealous Protestants (e.g. Steve Quayle, even if he's trying hard and his website is still a useful source of links) in assuming that Pope Francis's perceived 'liberalism' is of the Enemy. That's a mistake which also stems from an inadequate knowledge of the historical parameters of Christian orthodoxy, which are in some respects far more generous than some have made them out to be.

My own sense (here I'm just giving my personal opinion, nothing more) is that our Adversary has once again done something quite subtle, i.e. taking some authentic prophetic words and either a) fooling people into giving them a mistaken interpretation or b) counterfeiting/twisting them in such a way as to deflect people's attention onto the wrong target (the present Pope) and away from the real problem.

 

This has nothing to do with MDM thread of course. I just post it because it is so beautiful (if you can see it...). I think it is Our Holy Mother praying in front of Her Son.
http://qmbarque.com/2013/11/19/an-a...hotograph-taken-during-eucharistic-adoration/

 

I always took it that the anti pope would nt be elected atall. That the Pope would flee Rome. This could be Pope Francis and we would not know if he was alive or dead and so the anti pope would be presented to us by some cardinals saying he's the pope and the media would keep saying he is. Becuse we are obedient to the Pope we accept this, butthen he starts saying Christ is not truly present in the Blessed Sacrament and all that and that is when the division starts. Or something like that.

Pope Francis I think is our true Pope.

Elisa - the picture is almost unbelievable. I think it is our Mother praying before her son just to make sure we understand he is truly present in the Host. Somethig to remember if we start being told he is not.

 

I know that I was biting my nails as to who was going to get elected. Had it been Bertone' I seriously don't know what I would have done. I understand this two popes business, but just like Found Soul and Peter B. have said, ITS NOT FRANCIS!!

Surely everyone understands that the U.N. is organizing the WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES....This the NWO religion. All to be ONE.....and that is what I tried to explain in my long writing. The evil one has in every way created TWO parallel churches. MDM is messing with people's heads (along with other visionaries). Mark Mallett explained this the best and the 'compromises' the 'new' church will offer. AS THE TRUE CHURCH IS BEING CRUCIFIED AND MARGINALIZED AND PERSECUTED because we just don't fit in anymore do we??

Right now I am reading "The Jesuits"-the Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church by Malachi Martin. I simply CANNOT put it down. It answers SO many questions! Go to your local used book store and get it for a few bucks. It will help alot in understanding where we are now and why.

 

The Jesuits were the teachers of the church and they betrayed her years ago. That is why Martin left the Jesuits. Our current pope was ostracized by these same heretics.

 

I just can't read this stuff and don't know why I do. It makes me so angry. All I ever see when I see a picture of Francis or ever think of when I read what he says is LOVE and JESUS. He reminds me so much of how I feel Jesus would address the world when talking if he was here addressing the world. Evil can be quite crafty and deceptive but for me they can't be this loving and Christ like. Maybe it is too early and maybe I am wrong but I don't feel wrong about Francis and that is all I need. You may say Francis wants all the world to be together and one and I would say yes you are right and don't all of you feel the same? Don't you think Jesus wants us all together and one as his children? Isn't that why we are the Universal Church! Don't we all want to be all together as children of God? You may say this is one world government or order but for me that is the deception. One world government is not one world church. Sadly, we know this can never be and we know how the story ends but it is inspiring to see the Pope trying to bring the world together and bring the whole world to Jesus! May God bless his efforts always!

 

Andy, I am with you. I realize my reply the other day might have be less than charitable but I'm becoming increasingly frustrated by so called seers who attempt to tell us that God or His Mother are telling them that Pope Francis is an anti-pope or under control of the devil. When I see these statements I can't let them go anymore.

 

"I will not be surprised if he will bring forth the dates of Easter to be one." - I'm not clear what this means.. what does she mean ?

 

Looking at the history, the pattern that emerges is that the evil one tends to work by hijacking/infiltrating institutions (remember - he's not a creator...) and diverting them from their original legitimate goals by inducing 'mission creep', cunningly exploiting any possible loopholes in the structure.

Whether we're talking the European Community (which was initially set up after a retreat at a Benedictine monastery), the UN (whose Declaration of Human Rights was largely shaped by the great Catholic philosopher Jacques Maritain) or Vatican II (for which Our Lady called a decade beforehand in the approved apparitions of Amsterdam), the story of the hijack is more or less the same.

I fear this also applies to the World Council of Churches despite the many people of goodwill within the organization; if you see what happened in its early decades, the Eastern Orthodox (led by Georges Florovsky, one of the 20th century's theological greats) really tried to keep the WCC accountable to historic Christianity - in much the same way as Metropolitan Hilarion Alfeyev is doing now, if you read his recent speech reprinted at Robert Moynihan's blog. The problem is that alongside the genuine ecumenists there are many others who want a 'lowest-common denominator' ecumenism, not the genuine reintegration of the Body of Christ that the Magisterium has consistently tried to work towards since the 1960s.

It is this LCD counterfeit ecumenism which is the real threat, and its distinguishing mark will be its departure from the deposit of faith of historic creedal Christianity. I'm pretty sure that what's coming will be a dialled-down religion stripped of its supernatural content (this is the essence of the Masonic project, which God has been calling out all these years through His prophets). I'm convinced that it will deceive many across the denominational spectrum, as in fact it is already doing so... At the same time, I'm also convinced that those Christians of all confessions who are sincerely trying to recognize the voice of the Shepherd won't be fooled, but will come into that unity for which Christ prayed in John 17, rooted in his own unity with the Father.