MDM Messages

I received an email from David of TLIG (True Life in God - Vassula Reyden) regarding MDM :

Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:05:03 +0100
From: tlig@tlig.org
Subject: Maria Divine Mercy warning update

Earlier this year, a message from Vassula about the false mystic named 'Maria Divine Mercy' (MDM) was sent to this mailing list. Fr John Abberton (exorcist !!!) now sends some updated information:

"Dear TLIG readers,
Following the excellent article on false prophecy (see : http://www.tlig.net/MDMcriticism.pdf - written by a seminarian from Poland) in the recent TLIG Magazine I would like to draw your attention to the website below. It is an expose of “Maria Divine Mercy”; that is, who she really is and what her connections are to other, obviously false prophets. For example she is connected with a false seer and medium in Ireland and it turns out that the “priest” who was supporting her is connected to the false seer known as “The Little Pebble” in Australia, who is excommunicated along with the false “bishop” who has been working with him. So it turns out that the priest mentioned is actually excommunicated. I urge everyone who is still reading these false messages to read carefully the information provided on this website. Though some of the information, taken as extracts, does not prove she is false, adding everything together there cannot now be any doubt. As an exorcist I can say that following her connection with the false seer in Ireland who also acts as a medium (something forbidden in the Bible!) it is highly likely, if not certain, that MDM is acting under the inspiration of the Jezebel Spirit which, as we know, is now so powerful in and around the Churches. I beg all TLIG readers to now drop this rubbish in the bin where it rightfully belongs".

The Woman Behind the Curtain: http://midwaystreet.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/8/

Vassula's earlier letter sent on March 18, 2013 is copied below (at that time I urged David to ask Vassula for her opinion regarding MDM because there was so much confusion among the faithful and finally she agreed. Here is her answer:

"Ok. These people crave after sensationalism, future event, nothing more. This is called sensationalism. We had here in LA one lady who quarreled with Claire Mansour on exactly this issue even telling Claire that she is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit when she said to her that this woman is a false prophet especially about what she declares in her message about this Pope. I told Claire "leave her, she will wake up one day." It took 2 days and she phoned back saying she was wrong and that this Pope is so holy.
About our people they should stop reading false messages. This woman called Maria Divine Mercy is picking messages from: Garabandal, Don Gobbi, Sr. Faustina and TLIG to produce her 'messages'. As for her predictions, they came after I had written them years back in TLIG. She started only 2010. All her theory of the meteors were also taken from TLIG from the prayer of 2006 and from the articles I wrote well before 2010.
A simple way of finding how false it is, is the selection of her self proclaimed name: Maria Divine Mercy, WOW! Jesus respects the baptisimal name since baptism is one of the Sacraments of the church. A second thing: that this Pope is an antichrist and a false Pope, could they not see how he is in just a few days what sort of person he is? Third, I met him while in Argentina. He is a most kind man, simple and honest and humble. You will see what great things will come out of his hands, and I will not be surprised if he will bring forth the dates of Easter to be one.
Most of the people look for signs, events, and that sort of excitement. Instead of looking inside them and what they carry. When they meet the Lord one day, what will they have to offer him, empty hands? If they say she is recommending prayers etc. why not? If she does not, then it will be easier for being detected! Still I would say to these people who like these messages, let them free to follow a false prophet, and when they see about the Pope that they were wrong, I don't think they should come back to TLIG since TLIG has not accommodated them but had been read most probably to search for prophecies instead of changing their heart. It means that they have never appreciated the teachings of Jesus and the intimate love he has been giving us. You can pass on this email to any one you wish.
In Christ,
Vassula"

 

I will fully not believe in mdm prophecies anymore if she gets arrested or something else happens to her, for that only means and confirms to me that the hand of God is not protecting her and therefore she is a false prophet for sure. . Anyways I will keep an open mind on any catholic prophecies, it's 50/50 for me. I hope God will forgive me if I'm really on the wrong side, because I really do seek truth. To me that little pebble guy is so evil, very evil. As for the new pope, for me I'll just wait 50/50 . I'm a bit torned.
Why is the website called XenForo now?

 

The name has not changed , that is the new software program.

 

Any link to William “The Pebble” Kamm, should set off alarms in your head ! Would God associate a true messenger with this evil person,use COMMON SENSE !
READ THIS: http://midwaystreet.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/8/

 

Vassula Ryden is NOT church approved.
There was a recent article in the Women of Grace blog giving details.
So Vassula commenting on MDM is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

There has been extensive discussion of Vassula Ryden already on this forum which I don't wish to repeat but which you can consult by entering her name in the search engine. It is correct to say that she is not church approved, although she does have the public support of several Cardinals, but it should be stated that in any case the only alleged visionaries currently receiving locutions who can claim any degree of official Catholic Church approval are Edson Glauber and his mother Maria da Carmo connected with the approved apparitions in Itapiranga (and even there the approval only applies to the public phase of the apparitions 1994-1998). It is also true that the 1995 Notification regarding Vassula Ryden remains in force, but it also needs to be read in the light of the extensive dialogue in 2004 between Mrs Ryden and the CDF (Prospero Grech and the then Cardinal Ratzinger) whose proceedings can be found on the internet and which I have read alongside all 1550 pages of the pdf of 'True Life in God' and specialist studies by writers such as neurologist Philippe Loron. Whether people feel that these messages are authentic or rather the result of 'private meditation' is up to them, but the position of the Church - which is certainly not one of unequivocal condemnation, contrary to what is being circulated by a number of websites - does need to be reported accurately.

 

For your information : http://www.tlig.org/
Please note that Conchita met Vassula Reyden. See photo below.
Glenn could perhaps confirm this ?

 

I can also inform you that Vassula Reyden will come to speak in the big Church of the sanctuary "Banneux" (where Our Lady appeared) in Belgium on February 1st, 2014, with authorization from the priest of the sanctuary and the local Bishop.

 

May I just add three things to this regarding V.R. and other visionaries:
i) Belgian Primate André Léonard had Vassula Ryden address the 'Maranatha' pilgrimage to Israel this summer that he led together with Vicka of Medjugorje
ii) Another public supporter of V.R. is Bishop Jozef Punt of Amsterdam-Haarlem, who on May 31, 2002 gave the official Church approval to Ida Peerdeman's visions (Our Lady of All Nations)
iii) Myrna Nazzour of Soufanieh/Damascus, who no longer receives locutions but whose apparitions were Church-approved (although she is Greco-Catholic they technically fall under Orthodox jurisdiction as her husband is Orthodox), will be a guest speaker at the True Life in God anniversary event in Los Angeles next week. That Myrna N. would do so - two decades after their first meeeting - seems to argue strongly against the view put about by some of TLIG's critics that Vassula's contact with MN was merely a case of ingratiation.

Of course nobody is in any sense obligated to take any notice of Vassula, but these are the facts whose significance you are free to judge for yourselves.

 

I hope this all will not turn into an endless discussion, again. Look at this picture: animals have more peace than we have.

 

Elisa & Peter B
We have more in common than what divides us - love to you both.



I think that a part of the reward in Heaven will be to know the answers to all these questions.
May we seek and find.

 

Amen and Amen! Peace to you.

 

Elisa, from what I know Conchita and Vassula are not friends, this was a photo op and Vassula took the picture. Who wouldn't want their picture taken with her .

 

Ok Glenn, thank you, but it does not say either that Vassula is her ennemy, does it ?

 

No, it doesn't.

 

This is one of the problems I've had to also take on with MDM followers. They want to link her prophecies to Garabandal's, but I inform them , MDM has no connection to Garabandal because of her lack of obedience to the Church authority, and calling Pope Francis a "false Pope".

 

I just want people to read this and study it without twisting its meanings, to be fair. And to be fair with each other, lets put the mdm messages on the side for awhile. And I hope that you'll read with an open mind/heart. Fair enough? now here goes.
This is for us Catholics. About Pope Francis: In St. Francis of Assisi's prophecies for the end times, I thought St. Francis said this: The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death. Who else could this man be? not coninically elected? and if we follow that pope we will be dead( Body & Soul)?. St. Francis also continued: Those who preserve their fervor and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. But the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head, [Christ] these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy. I would rather die than to accept false doctrines & we would also know who are the remnant church because they are the people who will get injured by persecution of other Christians. (The Pope right now is going back & forth with truth and lies, all mixed up= confusion. I would run away if this Pope would mix all religions into one which as far as I can remember, the Mary in medjugorje teached (all religions are good and pleasing to God). Doesn't sound true, sounds more like apostasy, correct me if I'm wrong.. I thought that Malachi Martin said in an interview in 1998 audio about the 3rd secret of Fatima that the Pope of the end-times will be fully controlled by the devil, Malachi also mentioned a hint that that time from 1998 it will happen less than 20 yrs, which is right now. About the Anti-Christ Our Lady of La Salette said (Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the antichrist) & who else would let him in our Catholic Church. And the Pope that will die a cruel death is benedict 16th(Joseph Ratzinger) in Fatima message according to Pope Pius X who had similar visions as the Fatima kids, Pope Pius X said his successor would have the same name as him( Joseph). And the devil will try to destroy the church according to Pope Leo 13th but Jesus said it's not possible (the remnant church is the people who will not accept the lies of the new doctrines ) this is the church that Jesus meant(undestroyable)not the building. The changes that Pope francis wants in our church means that it's not good enough in the past? what I remember is that Jesus Christ's words doesn't change. Just want to point this out since I cant deny this approved prophecies of St. Francis, Fatima3rd secret, La Salette and Pope Pius X & Leo 13th. Peace ,to the warning we will all know if who we're following is of God. Peace.

 

Are you claiming that Pope Francis was not canonically elected and is controlled by the devil?