Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    War seems to be on the horizon. I was wrong last weekend, but now the situation is far more serious…

    Latest information:

    -China calls upon its citizens to leave Iran

    -BREAKING: The U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem calls upon its citizens to leave Israel, if possible as soon as today, while commercial flights are still available

    -NEW: A huge amount of U.S. Air Force assets are currently stationed at Ben Gurion International Airport in Israel, a supposedlty 'civilian' airport


    NEW: The USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier and its strike group have arrived off the coast of Israel

    BREAKING: Major Israeli cities, starting with Be'er Shebaa, have opened public bomb shelters

    BREAKING: Today, hundreds of reserve IDF soldiers were called up for service to the air defense command

    Intentional sabotage by US sailors in the toilets of the "Gerald Ford" aircraft carrier to avoid war with Iran

    Douglas MacGregor, a retired U.S. Army colonel, said from his sourcs in navy that some sailors on the "Gerald R. Ford" aircraft carrier, out of extreme dissatisfaction, deliberately stuffed undershirts into the toilets to disable the sewage system.

    It seems that American soldiers don't want to die in the war for Israel 9,000 miles away from American shores against Iran, which has done nothing in foreign policy to threaten the USA...
    Negotiations on the American side with Iran are handled by Witkoff and Kuschner, two Jewish multi-billionaires and pro-Zionists... It is not difficult to conclude where this is leading. US elections don't really make sense if someone from Tel Aviv runs your politics and in doing so, he bribes politicians, blackmails and intimidates them.



     
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  2. Explosions being reported in Tehran. Looks like it’s started.
     
  3. Missiles heading towards Israel from Iran now.
     
  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Those seemingly absurd taunts that "Trump is Hitler" turning out to be not so off the mark. This only hours after reports of progress in the talks with Iran. I'd wager that Netanyahu attacked because he didn't want the talks to succeed and forced Trump's hand, which, despite all his bluster of 'annihilation' and 'obliteration', is not the most auspicious way to start a war.

    Trump states his intent to wipe out Iran's missiles. Did he do that the last time? My memory was that Iran attacked Israel with impunity for twelve days, despite complete US/Israel air-dominance over Iran. Now Trump says he expects that he will wipe them out this time, despite the loss of a functional Starlink and the death/imprisonment of most of Mossad's (accidentally typed 'Missad'-hope that's an omen!) agent network in Iran.

    God help the Iranian people.
     
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  5. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Let's see how quickly and extensively it escalates. US bases in Bahrain are reportedly already under attack.
     
  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Iran very quick off the mark. Severe damage reported to be already done to occupied Palestine. Houthis have announced closure of the Red Sea. On our bikes!
     
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  7. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I think I’ll head to the gas station soon so I don’t get hit with a 100% price increase… Although I have to admit, these weekend attacks seem strange to me.

    It’s one thing to attack a small country; it’s another to attack a country of 90 million people that has lived in isolation for 50 years, full of tunnels and mountains, and expect to achieve victory within a day and a half…

    What happens on Monday — a ceasefire until next weekend? If that really happens, then this is a dangerous performance. Bibi stays in power, Iran proves that the Americans and Israelis are their enemies and the regime gains support, Trump and his friends profit on the stock market, and the military-industrial complex is satisfied.

    If, on the other hand, this continues, then it’s a very dangerous situation.
     
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  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I have read a credible report that Iranian sources say that Israel were unhappy with the direction of the talks and launched an attack, forcing Trump's hand. Due to the suddenness of events, the US were insufficiently prepared for the Iranian response and several US bases have been rendered unusable, at least in the short-term.

    Saudi Arabia, UAE, Nigel Farage have all declared a willingness to join the attack on the US/Israel side. It appears that Iraq have joined Iran. A lot of hands have been shown.

    Good news for the Green Party in the UK, for one. Much of the British working class might abandon Farage.
     
  9. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I was reading the comments on the Daily Mail about the aggression, and I can’t believe that this represents the opinion of the British right, since the vast majority seem pro-USA in this aggression. It’s possible that the comments are being manipulated, because the ones under Nigel Farage’s post are completely different.

    As a nation, the British had around a million people protesting in 2003 when Tony Blair and George W. Bush attacked Iraq, so I strongly doubt that war — from which they gain no benefit — is in the interest of the British right.

    What’s frightening is that you seem to be choosing between left-wing extremists who would carry out mass migration, legalize sodomy, and ban religion, and right-wing pro-Zionists for whom any aggression or killing of innocents especially by Israel is acceptable; who use religion for manipulation and personal interests, distorting God’s word, and who are equally involved in pedophile networks that traffic and abuse children.

    It’s like choosing between the plague and cholera.
     
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  10. Nigel Farage is just controlled opposition posing as a conservative. He lost my trust when he told all British citizens to get their covid vaccines during the pandemic. Boris Johnson also used this same playbook.
     
  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It is reported that the Muslims have gained control of the UK Green Party. While the Pakistanis are generally vile, they're not likely to support the 'Woke' narrative. The Muslims were denied all clout in the Labour Party by the Jews, so if they find another way of expressing their political views, they might at least present a counter to the extreme left and the Zionists who control Labour, the Conservatives and apparently the Reform Party.

    What a terrible state the countries of the West are in.
     
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  12. miker

    miker Powers

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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I have heard from a different source that the carrier has been hit. I don’t understand how it can be described as an ‘escalation’. The US/Israel attacked a sovereign nation in the middle of negotiations that were reported to be gaining some agreement. Surely, the charge of escalation lies only with the US/Israel? If the Iranians have struck the Abraham Lincoln, this is a logical consequence of Iran having to defend itself.

    On the other hand, the bombing of a schoolgirls elementary school in broad daylight, with 57 little girls dead, and rising, might be thought of as an escalation. There are further reports of a bombing of a near-by medical clinic, something straight out of the Gaza play-book.
     
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  14. miker

    miker Powers

    I think war is awful, period. I’m not defending what the U.S. or Israel did — in fact, I’m troubled by it. My use of the word “escalation” was descriptive, not partisan. I’m concerned about the conflict widening, wherever responsibility ultimately lies. I genuinely hope it ends quickly.
     
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  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I appreciate you personally don’t wish war upon anyone, but I’m puzzled as to how there can be any doubt about ultimate responsibility.
     
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  16. miker

    miker Powers

    Peace my friend. Im shutting this down with you.
     
  17. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Their interest is to turn the entire West into multicultural chaos. Just look at how, in the last ten years or so, the mayors of two once-prominent Western cities , New York City and London — have become Muslims.

    The “woke” agenda serves only to destroy the West, though it ranks below mass migration, since migration permanently changes the ethnic makeup of Western countries. For globalists, it’s a win-win situation — they finance everyone. Muslims are generally more passive because the religion itself is such that people are accustomed to dictatorship; after all, it spread by the sword from the beginning and the system is structured for totalitarianism. As such, they are a useful tool against the West: on one hand their own countries are destroyed, and on the other they are massively imported into Europe.

    When the U.S. and Israel bomb the Middle East, it is portrayed as desirable and justified — as fighting regimes, terrorism, and so on. When people enter Europe illegally, financed by Western money, and ordinary citizens rise up against changes in their communities, school and university quotas, the construction of mosques — then it is labeled Islamophobia. In other words, anything that leads to chaos is the West is considered good.

    However, what interests me most is that nothing is hidden anymore. In the past, things were masked; now everything is out in the open and people have become accustomed to it. Billionaire and political elites abusing and trafficking children for decades — normalized. The U.S. abducting a foreign president from his palace and selling their oil — normal. Bringing an Al-Qaeda leader to head Syria and rolling out the red carpet for him at the White House — normal. Attacking the second-largest Islamic country in the world without any reason, 9,000 miles from the U.S. coast — normal. Killing over 70,000 people in Gaza, all civilians — normal. Arresting people for praying outside hospitals and institutions — normal. Bombing ancient Christian churches, hospitals, and mosques in Syria, Lebanon, and Iran — normal.

    I sometimes feel that if tomorrow they went after the Vatican City and the Pope with airplanes, people would eventually accept that as normal too.

    A complete eclipse of reason there is no longer a shared perception of good and evil, only how each side interprets events.
     
  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Sorry, miker, I'm just cross and I shouldn't be taking it out on you.
     
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  19. Great idea...for our own peace, we must do that..let us not have to prove our knowledge...and instead turn to prayer...
     
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  20. miker

    miker Powers

    Thank you for saying that. I get it — this stuff is heavy. I’m not upset and I too am sorry that I contributed to upset you. I’d rather we keep talking as friends and brothers than let world events divide us. Prayers for peace.
     
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