Its fun thinking about what is going to happen in the future. But I would be careful not to get to hung up on a particular series of events happening. It is better to hold such things very lightly. Sprinkle such things with loads of, 'Maybes', 'Perhaps' and 'Could be's'. Lightly, lightly, lightly and keeping a good sense of humour about it all when it doesn't work out as maybe we thought it would. Not to tie things down too much.
IMHO we are not at the total end times, otherwise known as the Second Coming of Jesus. IMHO we are at the end of an era, end of times. So if we are there, then that invalidates your interpretation.
Im not following. Using allegory to assign modern popes and bishops to Old Testament characters is exactly the kind of arbitrary interpretation the Church warns against. 1 Samuel 4 was not revealed by God as a prophecy about Benedict XVI or Pope Francis, and no Catholic authority teaches this
Yes, of course I could be wrong about certain particulars. But that the two people in question are the two Beasts is certain. And the Holy Pope arises in the context of those Beasts. They are antipopes. A true, legitimate Holy Pope cannot come from them. The only real Cardinals that remain are the few that BXVI appointed. I am not on here trying to get credit for figuring it all out. No one knows me. I am not looking for any credit. I say what I say because the "religious deception" is real and has been around for some time. Benedict XVI is the remedy to that deception. When he shows up (however that happens) everyone must listen to him. He will show the way out of the mess that the Church is in because he is the true and LAST Vicar of Christ before the Second Coming.
I brought up Heli because Padraig said that it was unlikely for a 98 year old to have any impact on important events. I showed that Sacred Scripture speaks of Heli, who was exactly 98 years old when those events happened to him. That is undeniable. My own further interpretation of that Chapter reflects my fallible belief that Heli is a figure for Pope Benedict. This is just a single example in the Bible and private revelation that align with Pope Benedict and his role in the final stage of the end times. But it is pointless for me to even bring up those other references to someone who closes his mind to the allegorical/figurative method of interpreting the Scriptures. If you will look at CCC 675-677, you will see in the footnotes the Scriptural references used to build the teaching in those sections. The Church authorities used the allegorical/figurative hermeneutical method to arrive at their own summary. I follow the exact same methodology. And, as I said, if you will read St. Paul and the Church Fathers, you will see the same interpretive methodology used throughout the Bible, including books that are thought by the ignorant to simply be historical accounts of past events. With most of the Church Fathers, I think they are recounting real historical events in the lives of real people in the past, but the narratives are created in such a way (by the Holy Spirit) to pre-figure later real events.
Think about the times when Jesus walked the earth. Most of Hebrew-speaking people were expecting the Messiah in those times (think of Simeon in the Temple). But, almost no one recognized Jesus as being the fulfillment of the Scriptures. Even the Apostles had a hard time believing it. Now, fast forward to our times. The Scriptures need to be read in a way that avoids over-literalization, but respects the words on the page. The words speaking of wars and famines and diseases should be read BOTH in their literal meaning AND in their spiritual meaning. So, spiritually, the "wars" are battles in the Church over doctrine and the liturgy, the "famines" are the lack of access to the true Sacrament of the Eucharist (but not to its counterfeit), and the "diseases" are the viruses of sin that spread among Church members influenced by "the world" more than by "the Word of God." So Jesus said pay attention to the "Signs of the Times." Those signs are all around us...inside the Roman Catholic Church. It is the final "apostasy" the CCC, St. Paul and Our Lady warned of. In Scripture, there is only one "end times." And it is that short 7 or so years (Daniel 9:25-27) that Jesus and the others were talking about.
I’ve just finished watching the full video now, with an AI-generated dubbing from YouTube. I found the point about the “holy pope” reigning for only three years interesting. This is close to the length of the ministry of the two martyred witnesses, who will preach against the Antichrist for three and a half years. The rumors about a proposed liturgical reform that was supposedly presented to the pope—and that would invalidate the words of consecration—also caught my attention.
The "Signs" are discussed in Luke 21. The discussion begins with a question about "the temple," and Jesus's answer applies both to Herod's Temple and to the Church in the End Times. Note that Jesus did not come "in a cloud" in 70AD. That will only happen at the Second Coming. Jesus tells us to "watch" and "pray" that we are "not seduced." He is describing the end times events so that when we start to see them we will be on high alert. 5 And some saying of the temple, that it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said: 6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying: Master, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when they shall begin to come to pass? 8 Who said: Take heed you be not seduced; for many will come in my name, saying, I am he; and the time is at hand: go ye not therefore after them. 9 And when you shall hear of wars and seditions, be not terrified: these things must first come to pass; but the end is not yet presently. 10 Then he said to them: Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 And there shall be great earthquakes in divers places, and pestilences, and famines, and terrors from heaven; and there shall be great signs. ... 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves; 26 Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved; 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty. 28 But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your heads, because your redemption is at hand. 29 And he spoke to them in a similitude. See the fig tree, and all the trees: 30 When they now shoot forth their fruit, you know that summer is nigh; 31 So you also, when you shall see these things come to pass, know that the kingdom of God is at hand. 32 Amen, I say to you, this generation shall not pass away, till all things be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and the cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly. 35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye, therefore, praying at all times, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that are to come, and to stand before the Son of man. And St. Paul describes the same end times situation in 2 Thessalonians 2: 1 And we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of our gathering together unto him: 2 That you be not easily moved from your sense, nor be terrified, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by epistle, as sent from us, as if the day of the Lord were at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, 4 Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God. 5 Remember you not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now you know what withholdeth, that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then that wicked one shall be revealed whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth; and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming, him, 9 Whose coming is according to the working of Satan, in all power, and signs, and lying wonders, 10 And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: 11 That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity. 12 But we ought to give thanks to God always for you, brethren, beloved of God, for that God hath chosen you firstfruits unto salvation, in sanctification of the spirit, and faith of the truth: 13 Whereunto also he hath called you by our gospel, unto the purchasing of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle. 15 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God and our Father, who hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation, and good hope in grace, 16 Exhort your hearts, and confirm you in every good work and word. Those who believe that a true Pope can state that "All religions are paths to God. I will use an analogy, they are like different languages that express the divine," as Bergoglio did and Prevost confirmed, has spiritual blinders on. Anyone who thinks it is okay to treat active sodomites as welcome at the altar rail need their divine radar recalibrated. These are the signs. We have a few years left, but we need to prepare of the Warning now.
Yes, three years is the approximate length of time of the reign of the Antichrist, according to Scripture, the Church Fathers, and private revelation. The Holy Pope's word will be the guide for the Two Witnesses, who time overlaps with the reign of the Antichrist. We discussed this with the Don Bosco, Venerable Old Man of Rome prophecy. The "liturgical reform" is likely Prevost's proposal to replace the TLM with the Novus Ordo in Latin. This will be the Antichrist's peace plan to bring about unity in the Church. The Traditional Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (the Tridentine Mass) will be discarded and replaced with a counterfeit. https://religionunplugged.com/news/2025/10/2/pope-leo-urges-latin-mass-unity
Previously you asserted that Bergoglio was not dead. Or that somehow he would be back on the scene. Honest questions: Do you still believe that also? If not, why not? If you were incorrect about Bergoglio, why do you feel you are correct about PBXVI, or that anyone here should give credence to these theories?
You have “found” these in sacred scripture. But no saints, doctors or fathers of the Faith have previously found them. So it’s more likely your own personal biases and interpretations of these scriptures, one not supported by any other insight on these scriptures over the last 2000 years. I’m sorry to be harsh but I do believe you may be leading our MOG readers and lurkers astray.
Agreed. This is only the beginning of the end. First comes a minor chastisement and the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, a Great Monarch and Holy Pope, some period of time where the Church is restored and the final evangelization occurs. THEN comes the AC, the 2nd Coming and the end. We’re still at “riots and war” stage. Be at peace, folks. Long long way to go yet till the end. Triumph of the Immaculate Heart comes between 3DD and Age of Peace. Prophecies say the minor chastisement will be so severe many good Catholics will think it’s the End Time major chastisement. Regardless I believe Bergoglio and our current claimant to the thrown are part of the minor chastisement.
I am comfortable being wrong on that. The prophecy could have already been fulfilled with Bergoglio's near death in the hospital and his short recovery after that. I don't know for sure. One of the two of them, call them what you will, Antichrist or False Prophet, have already or will fulfill the prophecy of Apocalypse 13:3 and 13:12. I am sure of that. The important thing is that there is a deception that takes place. That deception has to do with the two Beasts, as John describes. The First Beast is honored by the Second Beast. This seems to suggest that Prevost (the second Beast) honors Bergoglio (the first Beast) by continuing his agenda.
I don't think anyone is going to be led astray once they read the part where PBXVI is alive in waiting and is the angel who comes down from heaven in Rev 20:1-3.
This makes no sense either, I was staying out of it but this stuff is all non-sense. If the beast is dead and in the lake of fire, then the whore of Babylon is also dead, which clearly isn't the case.. As well, the two prophets would also be dead, but you claim they are yet to arrive. You really need to work on the congruency of your theory against the REV timeline.
Well, I don't know exactly what you are referring to when you say "found them." Certainly, many of the interpretations that I have mentioned can be found in the writings of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church. Let's take the interpretation that the Antichrist sits in the "Temple of God" and that "Temple" is interpreted as the Church. Both Augustine and Aquinas (and some Church Fathers) agreed on that interpretation in 2 Thessalonians 2. The CCC uses the Scriptural passages in the footnotes as the basis of CCC 675-677. These, for example, are clearly not my personal biases.
You are claiming - ie, you’ve “found” - that these scriptures apply specifically to Bergoglio and the current occupant of the See. That’s only your personal interpretation of scripture. It’s fine to hold these pious beliefs but there is nothing more to support these claims than there was your claims that Bergoglio would be back on the scene soon after his death. Until your prognostications gain a higher success rate, the readers and lurkers must evaluate your pontifications accordingly.
The general consensus among American Christians, even some committed Catholics, that we are on the cusp of the coming of the AC, is simply wrong. It’s influenced by American Evangelical Christianity and dispensationalism, and they get EVERYTHING wrong because of their interpretation of Scripture, which is completely off target due to their anti Catholic biases, presuppositions and total ignorance of the totality of traditional Catholic prophecy. That totality points to the timeline I posted. (One way to discern the validity of any modern “Catholic” prophecy is if it deviates from established traditional Catholic prophecy.)