Trump & Vance Humiliated Zelensky

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by MedjugorjeFan, Feb 28, 2025.

  1. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Well things are lining up for a big war in Europe. Same old playbook. Several countries including the UK are sending soldiers and ammo to Ukraine to push back Russia. The Uk is building a missile plant in Northern Ireland to send 5000 missiles to Ukraine. Over a billion dollars is going to Ukraine not by NATO but by European countries, UK, Germany, Italy, France and others. They are poking the bear. They want the US on board and are sending an envoy to talk to Trump. Perhaps that is why the US is not mentioned in prophesy. This is very grim. Things are starting to move fast. I found a timeline on MSN.
     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    This is so disheartening. Does the UK have the money to do this? I got the impression that economically things are a bit sketchy. And Germany too. Shaking my head.
     
  3. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I have seen several horrible videos of these gangs rounding up young men on the streets in Ukraine and forcing them into vans. Zelensky will not be happy until our sons are sacrificed on Ukrainian soil, he's mentioned this repeatedly. My heart goes out to the people of Ukraine who suffer because of this wealthy dictator puppet. I have seen many reports alleging that Zelensky was coached by Susan Rice and Obama just prior to the meeting with Trump at the Oval Office. I would not be surprised in the least if there was an attempt made to sabotage the proposed agreements and mineral rights deal. Evil business.
     
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  4. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    There's nothing good about Zelensky. From his offshore bank accounts to his sleazy song and dance acts, presiding over the destruction of his country and now trying to get all of Europe into a war that can't be won, the most appropriate adjective for him couldn't be used in polite conversation.

    When they finally replace him with some other puppet, he can move to the US or Israel. His countrymen who survive this disaster will be suffering for decades.
     
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  5. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I suspect that they are hoping to keep it going until Trump's term ends. They might even be hoping that they only have to drag it out until the US mid-term elections in two years.. If the Democrats get a majority in the House or Senate, they should be able to resume the flow of money and weapons with the support of Republican never-Trumpers. I get the sense that the never-Trump crowd are dusting themselves off and getting ready to start over again.
     
  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    No the UK does not have the money to give to Ukraine. The UK is in great economic difficulty.
     
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  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Although Starmer & Co. are very keen for war, I think Zelensky's problems are going to begin at home. According to a report in Zerohedge, Netanyahu is lobbying the US to retain Russian forces in Syria, presumably as a buffer against Turkey. This, to me, represents a strong indication of how the wind is blowing. If Israel is pivoting to Russia, it is likely that a grand realignment is in prospect and the pace of events means that everything will be in place long before the mid-terms. The US MIC will be happy enough selling over-priced weapons to a Europe that is broadly incapable of producing her own. However, this could be in the context that if Starmer attacks Russia, the US will side with the latter, or at least keep well out of it. Zelensky appears to have outlived his usefulness as far as the US and Zionists are concerned. He kept Russia preoccupied and reduced their threat in Syria; now, things have changed, the US is in the process of mending fences with Russia, simultaneously reducing the threat of China, and Israel needs Russia in Syria to quell Turkish ambitions. I don't think this is a narrowly Trumpian policy. There are many powerful people in the US, I suspect, who are very uncomfortable with the neo-con strategy. As many, if not most of the neo-cons are Zionist Jews, it is possibly a sign of their falling out of favour if Netanyahu is signing up to the new New World Order.

    Meanwhile, the chihuahuas in Europe are talking about 'feet on the ground' and 'planes in the air', which would effectively be a declaration of war on Russia. I would think that little will happen, once the yapping dies down. The Russians and Americans are already re-establishing diplomatic and ambassadorial relationships. If the chihuahuas decide to go on the attack, expect the Catholic prophecies to be fulfilled.
     
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  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Starmer has given £2 billion this week. That man is fit for anything.
     
  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I think they're bluffing. If they do what they're threatening, it will be a declaration of war, in defiance of a combined US-Russia peace effort. In such circumstances, there could be an Oreshnik landing in Belfast. Not to mention wholesale slaughter of non-battlefit Europeans, who haven't really fought since 1945, on the ground and in the skies.
     
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  10. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Well, yesterday I saw a report on German mainstream TV about how the EU ‘unfortunately’ does not have the capabilities to continue the war against Russia without US help.
    Mention was made of the lack of its own large transport aircraft for the rapid transfer of military equipment and the lack of its own air defence capacity.
    Above all, however, US satellite data is necessary for various military activities which only the USA can provide. Starlink also plays a role. Apparently the provision of such data has already been restricted by the Trump administration.
    So I think we are well on the way to ending this conflict.
    If our EU idiots still want to continue in kamikaze style, they are very limited militarily.
    I think Irlmaier said that the Russian invasion would come as a surprise and would progress quickly up to a certain point ‘people sit in the pub having a beer and tanks roll past outside’. This scenario is no longer entirely improbable, but you can also read words from Starmer and Macron today that indicate that they realise that without the USA there is only peace.
    I think Trump will manage peace in Ukraine, but it will be interesting to see how he continues in the Middle East...
     
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    Steve79 Archangels

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  12. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    I came across this, this morning..
    It absolutely stunned me. Does anyone know of this priest?
    I would greatly appreciate the thoughts of the MOG people on what he is saying, for it seems to me like a rant. I actually commented on it in the comments.... I probably shouldn't have spoken against a priest. I'm just out of mass and I'm full of regret..

     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Priests should be very wary of getting involved in politics. Their role in life is to perform the consecration at Mass and administer the sacraments. There can be exceptions, such as Fr Malachi Martin, but this requires a great deal of wisdom, experience and research, not to mention great discretion.

    We all are fairly well aware of the events in the Oval Office. The only thing really unusual about them is that we are aware, as I'd expect far more heated exchanges regularly occur, but are not usually conducted in public.
     
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  14. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I think that he's in Glendalough but not with the local parish. Glendalough is covered by Laragh parish. He seems to run a ministry out of his house. Maybe he's retired from parish work. He doesn't have a Wicklow accent.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    I've listened toa few of his talks. But I tried to listen to this but I am confused. Is he talking about Pope Francis?+
     
  16. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    I keep thinking about Catholic prophesy. A small war in Europe with millions killed. The US will suffer a huge earthquake that will separate the US. (The New Madrid fault). China would invade the US from the west coast. Russia would come to our assistance. The three days of darkness. The warning when things are at their worst. I do know earthquakes have increased 400%. Time is picking up speed. Corruption is being exposed. I can see the separation of good and evil everywhere. Paying close attention …
     
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  17. Yes agreed. Alot of prophecies I have read over the years mainly speak of the US having its war with natural catastrophes. Earthquakes, flooding and fires everywhere it seems.
    And don't forget that asteroid they speak of.... all we can do is pray, sacrifice and follow the Blessed Mother and Jesus' warnings. We cannot live in fear...that is one of the reasons I don't get too hung up on reading alot of prophecies. I would rather live in today with God's help..trusting in Him.
    Prayers, hope and don't worry!!
     
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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Today at my Holy Hour as I was finishing I " randomly" opened the Bible to Mark with a description of what to look for at the end times. I felt in a way like I was reading it for the first time.
     
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  19. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I don't know. The whole Oval Office debacle looked staged. Zelensky will fit easily into any role but Vance seemed to be acting out of character. Lindsey Graham met Zelensky beforehand.

    I think that Maersheimer or Jeffrey Sachs said that the Lobby has leverage in Russia. Putin was reputed to have had a good relationship with Netanyahu. I'm reminded that Starmer is the replacement for the head of the Labour Party whose ouster was engineered by the Lobby after he said there should be a Palestinian state. While Trump gets credit for the Gaza ceasefire the Israelis have stepped up the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank. Trump's deal with Sheldon Adelson was recognition of the Golan as Israeli territory and moving the embassy to Jerusalem. He delivered on that deal. The condition for Adelson's widow donation to Trump's campaign was support for Israel getting the West Bank. It looks like he's delivering on that deal now.

    Putin can't afford to fall out with Erdogan because Erdogan controls access to the Black Sea. I reckon he despises Erdogan. There was something shady about the head choppers taking over Syria. Didn't the USAF provide air cover for them? Trump doesn't want war with Iran. Netanyahu does. Putin has influence with Iran but China also has interests there and the Lobby has no influence in China

    Alistair Crook says that only NATO can legally provide security for the EU. Our own neutrality has been flushed down the toilet. Apparentky, Putin has set his sights on invading Lisdoonvarna. Look up this thread and you'll see evidence that people believe such nonsense.

    When people quote Catholic prophecy they conveniently avoid mention of what Jesus told Lucia of Fatima when He said that Russia would be consecrated late (not too late as many say). Jesus said that the Immaculate Heart of Mary will save Russia. "It has been entrusted to her". Our country has no such guarantee.
     
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  20. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    JD Vance is a Marine. They are tough, and he was coming to the defense of Pres Trump. If you know his upbringing they are very strong willed people. Plus JD Vance is much younger than Pres Trump. I didn’t feel it was staged, I thought it was a huge surprise to them. And on the world stage in the Oval Office. For Z to call the Vice Pres “JD” was a total dressing down in a world of propriety. Just like his black spy suit. It was if Z wanted to run the show. Totally bizarre. I agree with Pres Trump we don’t want to go into that Viet Nam. *my observations*


     

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