The Future of the United States of America.

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by padraig, May 5, 2010.

  1. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    How long? About 2,000 years, or perhaps since Lucifer was cast out of Heaven. There are lots of threads here about the coming of the AC, the mark of the beast, etc. St. Iranaeus is worth reading on this. When you read it, bear in mind that in Apostolic times there was only one bricks and mortar temple in Jerusalem where someone could take a seat. Also bear in mind that third temple evangelical Christian zionists can't be the saints who are put to flight because they don't offer a "pure sacrifice" unto God and are more likely than not to support the taking away of the libation and the pure sacrifice. https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103525.htm

    The pure sacrifice is offered now in Jerusalem in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre which is located where Jesus was crucified, buried and rose from the dead. There appears to be an alternative, called the Garden Tomb, more pleasing to the Christian Zionists


    The only differentiation that should matter to Christians is right -v- wrong. The genocide in Gaza has shown us that the political so-called right and left are equally wrong. They all worship the golden calf and have no love for God or neighbour.
     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    He saw it happening in real time in a sense.
     
  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes. He experienced it. What a grace.
     
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  4. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Is it possible to justify that the four characteristics of a false church are not yet fulfilled? The intensity of this aspects can still be increased, but apart from that......
     
  5. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    There's nothing right about ethnic cleansing or genocide. Supplying 2,000 lb bombs to a terrorist, apartheid state in support of their carpet bombing of helpless civilians in an open air prison and then stealing their land is not good. Even the most rah-rah USA crowd can't be so devoid of a moral compass that the pure evil of it is lost on them.

    Trump says there will be lots of jobs when he turns Gaza into a resort for the rich. His vision is one of a type of apartheid South Africa where rigorously vetted subservient Palestinians will be permitted to return and work cleaning the toilets in rebuilt Gaza. No fear of the chosen people washing their own loos and floors. Huckaby is likely organising Trump's friends to rebuild the Temple. They have a ready made "messiah" in Kushner. Trump doesn't qualify because he's not Jewish but he probably fancies being the the Messiah's father-in-law.

    The Great Satan is earning its reputation. But, true to form, American self styled Christians will find a Bible translation showing that they and the Jewish Zionists are the meek inheriting the Earth, and those darned A-rabs should have moved when they were told. Aren't the Christian Zionists the "saved"? Saved from what? To their eternal shame, plenty of American Catholics buying the exceptional nation nonsense will be shouting "Russia" and "China". They all would do well to ponder on the last words attributed to Julien the Apostate, the last pagan emperor of Rome and the last person to attempt rebuilding the Temple: "The Nazarene has won".
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I love the way you ended this post.
     
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  7. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    I never heard these statements anywhere can you point me to them please ?
     
  8. Yes I read the list and it was unbelievable
     
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  9. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Which statements? Trump wants the Palestinians gone from Gaza. He wants the US to rule Gaza. He has already approved yet more 2,000 lb bombs for Israel. There have been reports of Kushner selling Gaza ocean front property to Jews in America. The Isrselis already have roads and restaurants forbidden to Palestinians, similar to racial segregation practiced in the US in the past and he has never uttered a word condemning Israeli apartheid, ethnic cleansing or genocide. It's not rocket science to see the similarities with apartheid South Africa. Well, not for the majority of humanity, but maybe it's too much of a stretch for American Christian Zionists.

    Huckaby is on record saying that there's no such place as Palestine and also supporting the rebuilding of the Temple. It shouldn't be hard to find it if you do a bit of research. Some Zionist Jews even believed for a while that Herzl was the Messiah. A mass muderer like Netanyahu is more than capable of persuading a narcissist like Trump that one of his family could be hailed as the Messiah.
     
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  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

  11. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

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  12. karnala

    karnala Archangels

    It's unbelievable that Trump & Netanyahu are planning a "Riviera of the Middle East" and meanwhile Gazans are still burying their dead & looking for people missing under the rubble. I wonder if their conscience will let them sleep at night in this Riviera, knowing that they have built over the bodies of missing children, children killed in the war, children on crutches with missing limbs, children traumatised, etc? Maybe the uncounted dead will be haunting them instead in the haunted Riviera?

    The corpses keep coming every day, sometimes dozens at a time, brought to morgues in the Gaza Strip after being pried from under 15 months of rubble and pulled from battle zones long too dangerous for search-and-rescue teams to reach.

    These bodies, dug up as a ceasefire took hold this week, are Gaza’s “missing,” the uncounted dead haunting families scattered by the war. For the Gaza Health Ministry, they were reduced to a bullet-point caveat beneath every daily death toll: “A number of victims are still under the rubble and on the streets, and cannot be accessed.”

    On Sunday, as a deal between Israel and Hamas paused the deadliest war in a century of Israeli-Palestinian conflict, families across the enclave scrambled to reunite with their loved ones — the living, the dead and the missing. Palestinians crowded the ruins that were once their homes, watching anxiously as civil defense teams hacked at the rubble in search of missing bodies. Each day of the ceasefire, the ministry has logged 50 to 120 recovered corpses.

    https://apnews.com/article/gaza-war...ng-ceasefire-d6bd45d1b89e12b1358ada070a449a75
     
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  13. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Yes. What Trump is propounding now is Nakba 2.0.

    Here’s what Nakba was like (Wikipedia):


    The Nakba (Arabic: النَّكْبَة, romanized: an-Nakba, lit. 'the catastrophe') is the ethnic cleansing[14] of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.[15] The term is used to describe the events of the 1948 Palestine war in Mandatory Palestine as well as the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians by Israel.[16]As a whole, it covers the fracturing of Palestinian society and the long-running rejection of the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants.[17][18]

    During the foundational events of the Nakba in 1948, approximately half of Palestine's predominantly Arab population, or around 750,000 people,[19]were expelled from their homes or made to flee through various violent means, at first by Zionist paramilitaries, and after the establishment of the State of Israel, by its military. Dozens of massacres targeted Palestinian Arabs and over 500 Arab-majority towns, villages, and urban neighborhoods were depopulated,[20] with many of these being either completely destroyed or repopulated by Jews and given new Hebrew names. Israel employed biological warfare against Palestinians by poisoning village wells. By the end of the war, 78% of the total land area of the former Mandatory Palestinewas controlled by Israel.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
     
  14. I would just like to write that if the Trump supporters would accept he is not the person that they thought he was, that would be really helpful. I have been posting here and there for many years about him being a freemason and now the snake that he is is finally slithering into the forefront so that even his staunchest supporters are left to wonder if they were supporting a snake. Remember how he would read the snake poem at many of his rallies?
     
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  15. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    I think it's too early to make a judgement. I say that as a non-American who is aware that Trump will also be unpleasant for the EU in terms of foreign policy.

    Of course it is terrible what Palestinians in Gaza (and the West Bank) have to suffer. Israel is responsible for this, and the USA is responsible to the extent that it has not prevented Israel from doing so and could have done so.
    There are signs that Trump is also allowing Israel to continue its warlike behaviour, or that he could even actively encourage it.
    As things stand today, however, I would say that Trump was instrumental in the ceasefire and that his statements on Gaza are just that - statements.

    It is clear that you can expect many things from him, from both a positive and negative perspective, anything is possible.
    Personally, I judge Trump primarily by what he does, less by what he says.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    Good point.
     
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  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    As far as I am aware, a Palestinian in the Israeli state loses his property rights if he has been vacated from his property more than six years. This is inflicted by a people that think they retain such rights after a vacancy of two millenia. Donald Trump will create an infamous injustice if he expells the Gazans to further the interests of the Zionist squatters.
     
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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The good Colonel has been vindicated in practically everything he has said, previously.

    Likewise, Archbishop Vigano has been proven correct over what he has been saying about what he terms the 'Deep Church' recently echoed by Edward Pentin at his own website.
     
  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. Two heroic men who speak out with courage.
     
  20. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I agree with you. He has been doing a great job of quickly righting many wrongs, yet his decision on Gaza has left us disappointed and confused. At the moment it is indeed a case of taking the good with the bad, and waiting for further developments to unfold. Trump has the habit of floating grand ideas before a final "deal" has been negotiated. If he truly wants peace in the Middle East any US involvement should be limited to the role of peacekeeping in the region, we have no business developing the Gaza Strip.
     
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