US Instigating War with Russia

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Nov 22, 2024.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Very conveniently, it seems Israel have occupied the Golan Heights. For their 'defense', of course.

    All seems orchestrated. Performed behind a barrage of media lies.
     
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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    In the Times of Israel, of Dec. 4th, is an article expressing a requirement for lebensraum, due to Israel's 'exploding population' (the poor Gazans have certainly been 'exploding'). Either the Jews have lost their sense of irony, or their famed chutzpah has gone off the scale.

    https://archive.ph/1yPRU#selection-1003.5-1003.56
     
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  3. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    The fact that it is orchestrated can hardly be refuted.

    The ‘purified’ head of the jihadists gives an interview on CNN and is portrayed as a ‘liberator’ in all Nato-media.
    Does the FBI bounty still exist for him?
    https://x.com/USEmbassySyria/status/864144602584035328

    This Islamist group serves as a tool for the geopolitical interests of the West.
    Just as various predecessor Islamist groups were used.
    (The emergence of Al Quaida /Isis/etc. through Western support is well documented)
    One only need to pay attention to when our media declare fighters as rebels/freedom fighters and when as terrorists.

    The situation in the Middle East as a whole is always complex.
    Removing Assad from Syria serves a wide variety of interests.
    Geopolitically/militarily, of course, it weakens Russia and Iran. (Scott Ritter/Macgregor's assessment of the military strategic impact is certainly interesting)

    It is no secret that the HTS Islamists were backed by Turkey, the Kurdish fighters in the north-east by the USA and the entire operation by Israel.
    The USA/EU/NATO use it to weaken the opposing forces geopolitically.
    Israel thus weakens Hezbollah and Iran.
    Arab states are heterogeneous and artificial constructs. Part of the plan to realise a ‘Greater Israel’ is to divide Syria, for example, into its sometimes rival cultural groups.
    (Greater Israel: an Ongoing Expansion Plan for the Middle East and North Africa)
    Messianic Israelis simply want as much chaos as possible.
    Turkey/Erdogan is being lured by the prospect of becoming a bigger player.
    Among other things by installing the gas pipeline from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria (!), via Turkey and selling gas to Europe.
    (South Pars - It is by far the world's largest natural gas field)

    Erodgan is playing a double game, but so is the West. In the end, the South Pars pipeline may end up in Israel.
    On the other hand, the Israelis are securing access to the Leviathan gas field (I know I'm cynical), so maybe that's enough for them (Leviathan - the largest natural gas reservoir in the Mediterranean).

    But I think it's always important to keep in mind that everything that happens results from the supernatural battle of good versus evil.
    The prince of this world realises with increasing desperation that his time is running out. He wants to drag as many souls into darkness as he can.
    This phase will be unpleasant for all of us, but we faithful have powerful weapons at hand.
     
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  4. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    just out of interest: Do you understand the German word ‘lebensraum’?
     
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  5. Pax Prima

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  6. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Long video, maybe I will see through it.
    Is it about pro-Western or anti-Russian governments being established everywhere in one way or another?
    Moldova, Georgia, Romania - if governments are not anti-Russian, they are labelled undemocratic and either they get a colour revolution or new elections.
    The new elections in Germany and probably soon in France are also to take place so that no disruptive elections take place in important countries next year.
    A new pandemic is also being planned for 2025 - microbiomes in the gut could be the target.
     
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  7. All the world is a stage...
     
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  8. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Sorry, I just watched the first 5 min. There is a letter from an anonymous Romanian official which states that the cabal is essentially looking to use Romania as a possible pathway to war. The war being a pretext to stop elections from unfolding.
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    I do. It has associations with Hitjer's aggression.
     
  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Yes, and the context, hence my reference to chutzpah, or what we would call in Ireland, "neck".

    I suppose it should come as no surprise that the continuously-proclaiming victims of the Holocaust should adopt the words of the perpetrators, since they've already deployed their actions.
     
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  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Could there be a trade-off? Russia gets Ukraine and US/Israel get Syria.

    Europe seems the big loser, here. France, having already lost its African colonies, must now absolutely forget its connections with Syria. Europe will have to take the surge of refugees.

    As for the other front, the Romanians are being prepped for the next round of cannon-fodder, something the S. Koreans were too astute to allow happen.

    Whether Russia holds on, or not, to her Mediterranean naval base in Syria will reveal a lot.
     
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  12. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    From what I read, they haven't succeeded in Georgia. And S.Korea is a major failure for them. It's hard to see Macron surviving for much longer in France. I don't know if Trump is on board with all this-I saw a tweet under his name calling out the terrorists in Syria for what they are-anyone know if it's genuine or not?

    Anything can happen, now, I think.
     
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  13. Steve79

    Steve79 Archangels

    Russia Today presents the Russian point of view quite authentically, I think.
    On RT, various academics analyse the events in Syria in such a way that they arose from discontinued internal Syrian processes. And that the terrorists were well organised, Assad not.
    For example, they used drones to capture Aleppo. The Syrian army was totally unprepared for this and panicked. The Ukrainian military on the ground brought war/drone experience with them.
    Iran is seen as the main loser, as it is more on its own. Also because Hezbollah is weakened. If radical Sunnis take power in Syria, they will become enemies of Iran.
    Turkey is seen as the main winner because it is gaining in importance as a regional power.
    For Israel, it depends on who actually takes over the government.

    If there was a deal, it would rather be Russia gets Ukraine and the US/Israel gets Syria to isolate Iran, i think. But I don't know if Russia would sacrifice Iran in such a deal.
    As you say, if they get to keep the naval base, that would be an indication.
    And from what I've read, Trump could get serious against Iran.

    Europe is the big loser on many fronts. They simply do not pursue an independent policy.

    Georgia is still embattled. It is possible that the elected president will survive the protests.
     
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  14. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    There is no way that a territory swap was agreed between the Russians and the globalists.

    Syria unfortunately lost its oil fields, 80% of which are in the area controlled by the Kurds under the US. The Syrian army, like the Arab world, is quite corrupt and heavily bribed. Most of the strike forces were made up of Iranians and Hezbollah. In the north you have the Turkish occupation, in the south there is the occupation of Israel, which has often rocketed Syrian facilities. In the northeast you have Kurdistan under the Americans and two proxy armies, the Syrian opposition, which are former Al Qaeda units and ISIL, which are financed by the Americans and Israel. Assad simply depended on the Russians, the Iranians and Hezbollah.

    He did not control the sources of income and it was a matter of days before he would have to step down. I think that agreements were made on both sides. First, Turkey and Israel/the US agreed that the Syrian opposition (Al Qaeda) would remove Assad. However, the Russians have agreed with the Turks that the process will go smoothly because Assad no longer intends to remain in power. The Russians will withdraw except from two bases (Tartus, Khmeimim) from which they control the sea, which is the most important. Assad was granted asylum in Moscow and flew to Russia via Turkey, the Syrian opposition will not touch the Russian bases, and the rest will be evacuated with the help of the Turkish army via Turkey to Russia.

    Israel has of course entered Syrian territory about 15 km, especially along the border with Lebanon in the south where Hezbollah is located. The Americans just yesterday carried out about 75 attacks on their ISIL pawns because they no longer need them. So their former allies such as Hussein or the Taliban become unnecessary or enemies from today... Every day, over 60,000 barrels of oil leave Syria in the area where the Americans are, heading towards Iraq and Turkey, where it is resold. It is estimated that Syria has been damaged by over 110 billion dollars since the beginning of the war. Now, I think this was even a Russian plan because keeping Assad didn't make sense. A corrupt army that has no finances, nor does it hold any energy sources, it was a question of when it would fall. However, Kurdistan is a problem for Erdoğan, and HTS, i.e. Al Qaeda, will not stop in an area where there is no profit. I expect a conflict with the Kurds soon. HTS will want to get to the oil fields, and Erdogan will get rid of the Kurds.

    The Americans will have to finance a lot more and will have a lot more problems because a new front is opening up for them. The Russians have now shifted the burden of the conflict to them.... Not to mention that they already wanted to stage a coup against Erdogan in 2016, and now Putin has probably agreed with Erdogan in an agreement to expel the Americans from that area. The biggest losers are the Iranians, but they could wait, as in Iraq, for the Kurds and Al Qaeda under Turkey to be exhausted to that extent and then take power. It wouldn't be the first time.. The Russians have kept strategic positions, they have taken the burden off themselves and withdrawn part of the army for Ukraine and securing power at home. This is an experienced army that has been through battles. They have opened a new front for the Americans and probably made it more difficult for them to extract oil. I would say that the Russians are the bigger winners than the Americans who will be drawn even further into the conflict.

    And I would say that this was not done by chance by the Russians just as Trump, who is not interested in Syria, is coming. Because watch out, Trump has already withdrawn the army from Syria except for a small one that was guarding the oil fields, he is a president who wants to avoid war. So it is unlikely that the Kurds will get the support they need, and now Erdogan has helped the opposition and now the Russians, i.e. Assad, have not resisted and allowed the Turkish army and the Kurds to come into contact, and since Assad is no longer there, and the Americans have supported both factions (the Kurds-SDF and the Opposition-Al Qaeda), who then needs the American army and an increase in armaments...

    This means that the Americans will have to enter the war or retreat and lose their position and oil fields. The Russians practically gave them a ready-made act, secured their position in Syria and got away without major losses.
     
  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I have heard it suggested that the Syrian Christians, Alawis and Shias may congregate in the area around the Russian bases, forming a state that will give them protection from a potentially fundamentalist Sunni state. This might gain recognition also from Turkey, who are keen to see some of their millions of refugees return to Syria, and many of these might feel safer away from the terrorists. I have also read suggestions that things ran out of Erdogan's control, with the Islamists only meant to gain control of Aleppo. What do you think?
     
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  16. Indy

    Indy Praying

    I can't believe what just happened in Syria and Damascus. Syria is being dismantled. Those people must feel so powerless and abandoned.
     
  17. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Latakia is that area and according to the 2010 census there are over 80% Alawites and Christians. Now maybe even more, and there are Russian sea bases. As far as I have seen, even HTS (that opposition) allowed members of the Syrian army to go to that area. I guess it was all an agreement because there was no real fighting...

    Realistically, HTS gains nothing if it attacks that area. It should be said that the murders of Christians through ISIL and Al Nusra were financed by the West in order to overthrow Assad and cause a migrant crisis towards Europe. HTS is now under the Turks. Erdogan's goal is to get rid of the Kurds because the entire east of Turkey, meaning Anatolia, are Kurds, they make up about 30% of Turkey and have a higher natural increase than Turks who have the same number of births as Europeans. This area continues from Turkey to Syria and Iraq, and it is an area that one day could potentially be a new state for the Kurds who do not have their own state. So Erdogan is afraid that the same thing that Spain fears will happen to Catalonia could happen to Turkey, separation from the mother country. A new state of Kurdistan that is loyal to the US. That's why his goal is to use HTS to expel the Kurds, and in return he will promise them oil fields.

    Now HTS could be joined by ISIL, which the Americans turned their back on. Aleppo is not that important now, and HTS doesn't even have many fighters to be able to control such a large city, let alone enter into some conflicts.
    They go towards the oil fields and the Kurds who have American support and protect the oil fields because that's where big business takes place. It's all a big robbery...

    The Alawites have announced that their defense is ready, for now they have a promise, but together with the Christians they have a solid line of defense in Latakia if something goes wrong.

    And like I said, it's just starting to unfold. The moderate opposition (HTS) attacks the Kurds....

     
  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    There are many other potential conflicts emerging. Turkey, a powerful NATO member might find itself in an existential disagreement with the United States over the Kurds and might also like to get its hands on that oil. I wonder if a hankering for Ottomanism might make it difficult to cede Damascan Syria to an Islamic rabble? There is also the attraction of being within striking distance of Israel, again posing a risk of conflict with the US. And there is the risk of a Russia that has emerged triumphant in the Ukraine looking longingly on Constantinople, making that naval base seem all the more threatening. Interesting times...
     
  19. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c...t-says-its-a-good-thing-because-israel/330544

    This is the classic opinion of the Jew, he is a "conservative". It doesn't matter if Christians are being killed, but if this meant that Iran and Hezbollah were weakening, then the "sacrifice" of Christians is justified because Israel comes first.
    Imagine the situation if Iran and Russia put a Christian at the head of Syria, but because of the influence of those two powers, it poses a danger to Israel. Do you think the comments would be similar ?!

    I don't have a problem with Jews putting Jews first because I know what they are like and that they only look out for their own interests
    , but I do have a problem with Christians putting Jews before the interests of Christians. Unbelievable that all these years no one has asked the question what about the Christians in the Middle East and why no one protects their interests, why it is important that Assad, the Iranians and Hezbollah fall who are the enemies of Israel and that the radical opposition that kills Christians is funded by the West countries that are based on Christianity... In the West, all these years we have been hearing about Islamophobia and anti-Semitism, but no one has lifted a finger for the Christian community that has been there for 2 thousand years.


    American presidents in a Christian country are competing to be more flattered by Israel, and these christian communities, which no one cares about, are not mentioned, nor is the suffering they are going through from Bethlehem, Nazareth to Syria, Gaza and Lebanon...

    Maybe in this earthly life it means little, but at least they are authentic Christians. Because in that World in the Middle East, only someone who carries God deep in his heart can bear witness to Christ, be abandoned like Jesus, persecuted and remain firm in his convictions.
     
  20. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The realignments that we see on a global scale are frightening, each day brings us closer to doomsday. I fear for my children and grand-children in the coming tribulations all we can do is pray, pray, pray -

    There was a lovely reading on the Scriptures today that gives us reassurance that Christ is always close to us in the good times and bad.

    He is like a shepherd feeding his flock,
    gathering lambs in his arms,
    holding them against his breast
    and leading to their rest the mother ewes.

    Isaiah 40
     
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