The Decline of Our Republic

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by Mario, Aug 24, 2024.

  1. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Americans fail to realize that at it's inception the USA was never intended to be a Democracy, but rather a Representative Republic. In a Democracy the majority rule. A Republic tempers this, at least in our Constitution, via two representative bodies which share authority with an Executive branch. Thus, voters can't run amuck via a direct ballot. But this is no longer the case.

    Consider the overwhelming current attempt to shove abortion down our throats via the vehicle of State Propositions. Rather than debates and bills presented in the Senate and House nationally, and the corresponding legislative bodies in the States, those pushing this evil agenda are bypassing the very structures designed to prevent a decline into a democracy.

    Propositions were concocted in the late 19th century, but now are being utilized in every level of government. But with mass media shaping the minds and hearts of the general population, crafty propositions have now become the means of implementation of all sorts of godless agendas.

    Concocted to limit the power of political bosses embedded in political parties, it emerged at the beginning of the 20th century. They have now become the means of bypassing representative government, and is currently being used to shove unlimited abortion down our throats. They are a form of unchecked democratic manipulation and threaten the foundation of our Republic.

    It ultimately is a vehicle of disguised destructive power.:cry::cry:

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    From wikipedia:

    In the politics of the United States, the process of initiatives and referendums allow citizens of many U.S. states[1] to place legislation on the ballot for a referendum or popular vote, either enacting new legislation, or voting down existing legislation. Citizens, or an organization, might start a popular initiative to gather a predetermined number of signatures to qualify the measure for the ballot. The measure is placed on the ballot for the referendum, or actual vote.

    Initiatives and referendums, along with recall elections and popular primary elections, were signature reforms from the Progressive Era (1896–1917) when people sought to moderate the power of parties and political bosses. These powers are written into several state constitutions, particularly in the West. Initiatives and referendums constitute a form of direct democracy.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2024
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  2. Mario

    Mario Powers

    The destruction of our Union cometh quickly!:cry::cry::cry::cry:
     
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  3. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Not quite. Stay hopeful. Trump may turn this around. God willing.
     
  4. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    RFK Jr’s speech today was an eye opener.
     
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    My blood pressure skyrocketed over this latest attempt to shove abortion down the throat of the State of Missouri via a clever, but deviously presented Proposition. God bless this judge! The purveyors of death will stop at nothing! We must realize that abortion is fuel on the fire of demonic activity!

    Let God arise and His enemies be scattered!


    God bless the Thomas More Society:

    As our lawsuit lays out, Amendment 3’s new “super-right” to “reproductive freedom” goes far beyond abortion and would repeal essentially all of Missouri’s state laws and constitutional provisions regulating reproductive care and technologies—including gender transition surgery and genital mutilation.

    That repeal would include the “Right to Life of the Unborn Child Act” and the “Infant’s Protection Act”—which is the state’s partial-birth abortion law.

    STOP MISSOURI AMENDMENT 3
    Proposed Amendment 3 would also eradicate state laws that protect unborn children at viability and from abortion based on discrimination (such race, sex, and Down syndrome), and Missouri’s prohibition on the abortion of late-term, pain-capable, unborn children.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2024
  6. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    I am so upset I have no prolife candidate to vote for. Except JD Vance. It’s shocking that abortion has become the main governing issue.
     
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  7. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    If you go on FB and search for Springfield Ohio you will be horrified. 20000 Haiti immigrants have been dumped on this small town. There are ten people to a bedroom. They are killing local pets and ducks in the parks to eat. Kamala wants their votes to keep the state blue so is flying them in. Read it and weep. Happening all over the country.
     
  8. Mario

    Mario Powers

    :eek::eek::eek::mad::mad::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

    These are evil days!

    Fast and pray! Just this week I've been convicted to fast more rigorously: deny the flesh so as to combat the flesh and the devil.

    We are in the days of the ultimate confrontation between the Church of self-sacrifice vs. the devil and worldly powers.

    Let us put on the full armor of God!
     
  9. Mario

    Mario Powers

    A great clarification on how a Catholic should discern how to vote in political contests where the candidates fail to fully adhere to authentic Catholic teaching:



    Lord have Mercy!
     
  10. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I think our nation is toast personally. Oddly enough, I have been doing the Bible in a year and I have been in Ezekiel and Jerimiah the past 2 weeks. This is completely about the destruction of Israel to Babylon. The parallels are so similar. It feels like to me that nothing can stop the destruction of the USA because this country has abandoned God for so long. Our crimes of abortion and trafficking deserve God's just chastisement. With all this being said, I am not that fearful because I trust in our Lord and the graces he can give when meeting evil regardless of what happens to myself. My only fears are what will happen to my family and friends and the fear they will endure. My constant prayer is for them to be sheltered under the Precious Blood and safe within his Sacred Heart. I don't have much hope in Trump and have gotten to the point where I don't trust him either. I don't think he will win because nothing has been done to stop the cheating that occurred in the last election. All this rings true in my heart because like Our Lady warned at Fatima and once again in more recent years at Akita, we have not turned back to God so God will use the rise of communism to punish the US and the world. Maybe it can still be stopped and we can hope and pray it does but I don't see the people in this country on the whole willing to fast, put on sackcloth and repenting. Evil seems everywhere and most who do claim to be Christian are truly lukewarm ones. Sure it can only take a few devout individuals to change God's mind, but this all seems biblical to me, meant to happen and it must all get worse before the Warning comes. If you believe in such an event. I do believe in it because it gives me great hope for the future and just seems logical that God would give the world one last great chance of his great mercy. Please don't take this as gloom and doom and be down but give glory to God and trust in Him and strive to do his work every day in your life. Most importantly shed your fears and trust in the Lord of mercy and grace.
     
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  11. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Well said, Andy!

    Jesus, I trust in you!
     
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  12. Mario

    Mario Powers

    This election will reveal how thoughtfully Americans are approaching their right and duty to vote this fall. Ten States will have cleverly worded propositions about reproductive rights that mostly make abortion available up to birth. These propositions actually change the respective States' Constitution which is the supreme law of each State. They are:

    Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, and South Dakota.:mad:

    Interestingly, Nevada also has a 2nd Proposition which would limit abortions!(y)
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2024
  13. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    For those that could stomach that so called "debate" last night, man the demons definitely came out during the abortion part of the debate. It just fires me up whenever you see such hatred around this topic. When you call this "health care" shame on you. Health care for whom? Not the poor innocent child you sick people are murdering to offer up to your god!
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

     
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  15. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    I like how he mentioned that the spirit of python is dominating currently and to keep our eyes on Christ.
     
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  16. Heidi

    Heidi Powers

    Yes, I agree with you. I don’t think Trump will win, and even if he does, it won’t stop wha is coming.
     
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  17. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Correct, it will not matter who wins, there will be fighting and chaos throughout the country. Keeping my focus on Christ
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The Orthodox are convinced that World War 3 is about to start and are quite resigned to it really. They appear to me to be far more open to Prophesy than we are. It is interesting that Our Prophecy tends to focus on Marian apparitions ; theirs focuses on recent Orthodox saints. Which raises an interesting question...why is the Mother of God appearing so very infrequently to them but coming very,very regularly to us?

    Medugorje is a good example. The Orthodox have never their entire history seen anything like it. They have a huge devotion to the Theotokos too. They should be very, very open to it, but somehow it never seems to happen.

    When Our Lady does appear in Orthdoxy it appears to happen as private visions to individual saints. There is nothing at all like Fatima..at least as far as I can tell?

     
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  19. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    A close family friend of mine is a local mayor. Every week he gets reports from local sheriff department about what is going on. Keep in mind I live in a fairly rural area of Kentucky but also not too far from a large city in Cincinnati. What I learned yesterday was rather alarming. Crime is way up in his small city and it is crime from immigrants here illegally or on work visas. The work visas are Russian males ages 21-35. The illegals are from Venezuela and they have taken over different areas around his city and surrounding cities. The sheriff told him to never travel out without being armed right now and to prepare with food, medical supplies and water because he says he expects some very rough times beginning next year. He also said this is happening all over the country especially in the Midwest where you wouldn't expect this to happen.
     
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  20. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Is the answer to this a rather simple one? They left the Catholic church. Sure we recognize them but at the end of the day, they did indeed leave the church her son established.
     
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