Archbp Vigano: Bergoglio is an ‘anti-Pope,’ BXVI resignation invalid

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  1. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...-benedicts-resignation-was-certainly-invalid/

    Archbishop Viganò: Bergoglio is an ‘anti-Pope,’ Benedict’s resignation was ‘certainly invalid’
    LifeSiteFri Aug 9, 2024 - 1:57 pm EDT
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    (LifeSiteNews) — In a wide-ranging print interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has stated that he considers Pope Francis to be an “anti-Pope” and that Benedict XVI’s resignation in 2013 was “certainly invalid” due to its “procedural defects.”

    “The invention of the ‘papacy Emeritus’ further undermined the Petrine Primacy and opened the way to that ‘shared papacy’ — in a surreal division of munus and ministerium without any theological or canonical basis — which is today evolving into a reinterpretation of the role of the Pontiff in an ecumenical key,” His Excellency said.

    Continuing, Viganò charged that Benedict XVI’s “redefinition of the Petrine institution and his creation of the ‘papacy emeritus’ constitute the maximum expression of the heretical instances of Ratzingerian theology, and as such must be the object of a very precise condemnation, together with other heresies (well highlighted by the studies of eminent Professor Radaelli) that the German theologian never disavowed.”

    Marshall is a popular Texas-based Traditional Catholic author and podcaster. He recently sent a list of questions to Viganò, the former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States. Marshall, who released the interview in two parts on YouTube, asked the archbishop about the Third Secret of Fatima as well as the Vatican Bank, Summorum Pontificum, and a variety of other topics pertaining to the papacy and the duties of Traditional priests.

    In his lengthy response, Viganò said, “I consider Jorge Mario Bergoglio an anti-Pope — or better said, a counter-pope, a usurper, an emissary of the anti-Catholic lobby that has infiltrated the Church for decades.”

    His Excellency identified the “most dangerous” men in the Vatican today as being Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin, doctrinal chief Cardinal Victor Fernández, liberalCardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, anti-Latin Mass Cardinal Arthur Roche, and Venezuelan prelate Archbishop Edgar Peña Parra.

    While urging priests to only offer the Latin Mass, Viganò, who the Vatican recently said incurred automatic excommunication for rejecting the Second Vatican Council and Francis as the pope, argued that a “holy pope” would nullify Vatican II and “abolish the Novus Ordo and restore the Traditional Liturgy.”

    His Excellency further told Marshall that concerns over the authenticity of the Third Secret of Fatima that was revealed by the Vatican in the year 2000 are “well-founded.”

    “Beyond the anomalies and technical inconsistencies — such as the format of the paper support used by Sister Lucia — it seems clear to me that the revealed content was censored, so as not to confirm what is there for all to see: the demolition of the Catholic Church from within and the apostasy of the faith through a ‘bad Council’ and a ‘bad Mass’,” he said.

    Viganò also commented on groups of Traditional clergy who offer the Latin Mass. In one instance, he accused the Priestly Society of St. Pius X of “showing signs of tiredness.” He said that “sometimes it seems that [the SSPX’s] silence about the horrors of Santa Marta is motivated by a tacit agreement of non-belligerence, perhaps in the hope of [becoming] the collector of conservatism and part of Catholic traditionalism, once Bergoglio has eliminated ‘the competition’ of the former Ecclesia Dei institutions.”

    Lastly, His Excellency commented on the subject of sedevacantism.

    “Even if it is appropriate to suspend … judgment on the popes of the Council, it is necessary to put everything that they have produced ‘in parenthesis’ so to speak,” he said.

    At the same time, Viganò stated that “it is not possible to believe that the Lord allowed His Church to remain eclipsed and deprived of the ordinary means of Grace — the Sacraments — for over sixty years, with Bishops and priests not validly ordained and therefore with invalid Mass and Sacraments.”
     
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  2. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2024/08/1...ope-benedicts-resignation-was-certainly-inva/

    FINALLY. Better late than never. +Vigano at long last clearly states the obvious truth: “Bergoglio is an ‘anti-Pope,’ Benedict’s resignation was ‘certainly invalid’
    Ann BarnhardtAugust 10, ARSH 2024
    Now, WAS THAT SO HARD?

    This is a good step. People will cite +Vigano’s fake “excommunication” from the Bergoglian Antichurch as discrediting him, but I think at this point faithful Catholics who aren’t financially dependent upon remaining in the public “good graces” of the institutional Antichurch and are thus blinded by their own unwillingness to suffer, know perfectly well that Antipope Bergoglio and Touchme Fagnandez have as much genuine authority in the Catholic Church as Kim and Khloe Kardashian. In fact, I’m still seriously awaiting my own “official” Antichurch document of “excommunication”. I would frame it and carry it up to the Communion Rail with me every time I made a Sacramental Communion to show to Our Lord.

    +Vigano makes several excellent points in this statement.:

    -A holy Pope would/will declare Vatican II a failed council and declare it null

    -A holy Pope would/will abrogate the Novus Ordo Mass, obviously

    -The Third Secret almost certainly regards a “bad council and bad Mass”. Again, pretty obvious.

    -+Viganò calls out the SSPX for their sloth and effeminacy for playing nicey-nice with the Bergoglian Antichurch. Hear hear!

    -Viganò rightly shoots down 1958 Sedevacantism, and then uses a turn of phrase which I REALLY like and will use myself: “Even if it is appropriate to suspend … judgment on the popes of the Council, it is necessary to put everything that they have produced ‘in parenthesis’ so to speak,”

    That’s exactly right. Everything in this past Vatican II/Novus Ordo/Bergogkian Antipapacy epoch will obviously all go “in parentheses” for all of history. It’s clearly a state of emergency exception.

    Do click over and read/watch the whole thing.

    And shout-out to Dr. Mazza, NonVeniMark, and all of the other people of good will who have been beating this drum for going on a decade now. This is no time to back off. Quite the opposite. We must lean FORWARD into this momentum. We must never let up, because as I’m sure you’ve noticed, evil never lets up, never relents. We must match and exceed evil’s effort until evil is completely crushed under Our Lady’s heel.

    Let’s GOOOO!!!

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...-benedicts-resignation-was-certainly-invalid/
    If you’re interested, I have three videos on the Bergoglian Antipapacy: Part 1 (ARSH 2018), Part 2 (ARSH 2019), and Part 3 (ARSH 2023). My Bergoglian Antipapacy page with links and timestamps is HERE. And here’s my Part 3 video from last year, which is a stand-alone presentation for those just getting up to speed on how the Bergoglian Antipapacy happened in the first place back in February-March of ARSH 2013.

    As always, I hope this helps.

    Pray for the Petrine See, vacant these 588 days and counting, and for the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

    St. Lawrence, St. Matthew, St. Andrew, St. Peter, Our Lady of Copacabana, pray for us!

    Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us!
     
  3. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I’m biased, I admit. Here’s one of my honey dippers and my latest mahogany, hard maple and walnut bowl, on Ann’s kitchen counter:
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  4. Clare A

    Clare A Powers

    I’m giving Archbishop Vigano some slack since everything he says seems to my ears to be from the depths of grief. He was sidelined for telling the truth about McCarrick and he’s seen all manner of dishonesty and lies in the Vatican, especially concerning finances. He feels frustrated, betrayed and outraged.

    However, the words ‘baby’ and ‘bathwater’ come to mind. For instance, with hindsight, I think Ratzinger was wrong to resign but he wasn’t a heretic. I think Vigano is right about a lot of things but to my mind he goes too far. We should pray for him, like many orthodox priests he has been isolated and cancelled.
     
  5. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Agreed. Pray for everyone in this, the father of lies is prowling about. Feed our enemies spiritually and take the blessing of the children of light. God will sort it out.

    Matthew 5:43-48
    “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

    Romans 12:19-21
    Revenge not yourselves, my dearly beloved; but give place unto wrath, for it is written: Revenge is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. But if thy enemy be hungry, give him to eat; if he thirst, give him to drink. For, doing this, thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. Be not overcome by evil, but overcome evil by good.
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Good post.
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    How strange, I was walking through the forest there now thinking about Pope Benedict and his resignation.

    I used to harbour a bit of a grudge against him for sliding off and letting Frankie slip through the door

    But now, looking back on it I have much, much more sympathy with him . The huge evil we are up against is just so huge and overwhelming. At the start I used to rant and rage against it myself at first. But then I caught myself on and went quiet and just prayed. My ranting and raving did no good at all.

    I can see poor Pope Benedict may have started to see he was in an impossible position in the middle of these fiends from hell, the poor man.

    I had no idea how bad things had gotten how much power those people had

    But poor Pope Benedict did, the poor man.
     
  8. AED

    AED Powers

    His resignation opened the door wide for all to see the layers of corruption. I remember Malachi Martin being angry that JPII did nothing to stop the disintegration of the Church. Finally he decided JP II made a decision that nothing could be done. Only Our Lady could fix it. M. Martin emphatically did not agree with this decision but he said he understood it. What bothered M. Martin the most was the terrible loss of souls.
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Poor Pope St John Paul had Parkinson's and was having the most horrible , painful debilitating death which left him crippled. So he died ,I believe , a Victim Soul, nailed to the Cross for the Church.

    the same with Pope Benedict.

    the same with Mother Angelica.

    The same with Cardinal Pell.

    all Victim Souls for the Church.


    ......and many, many more.

     
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  10. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Scary, but something to really think and pray on.....they all kept to the Way of the Cross......wonderful examples for those who will be called to follow that particular path.
     
  11. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    I didn't know Malachi said this. I came to this same conclusion when I found out SJPII said the following.

    Still, John Paul has also expressed himself in a calmer way with regard to the "Third Secret." In May 1991 he visited Fatima, and during a homily, told his listeners: "This is not an old world that is coming to an end, but a new one that is beginning."
    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/is-the-end-near-2664


    He was resigned to everything that was going to happen.
     
  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Although I am a bit baffled. I assume both Pope Benedict and Pope JP knew about McCarrick ...and left him in place?

    Or am I wrong?
     
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  13. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://nonvenipacem.org/2024/08/11...s-not-affect-the-nullity-of-the-renunciation/

    “The fact that Ratzinger may have subjectively believed that he abdicated from the Papacy does not affect the nullity of the Renunciation”
    Mark DochertyFebruary 29, 2024
    (From the TM/+Viganò interview. It is important to point out that Pope Benedict’s purported resignation was not only invalid, but very likely invalid for multiple reasons. -nvp)

    What do you think of the munus vs. ministerium argument that Benedict XVI did not truly resign?

    The Resignation of Benedict XVI, due to the procedural defects and the canonical monstrum that it produced [of two apparent “popes”], is certainly invalid, as Professor Enrico Maria Radaelli has excellently explained. The invention of the “papacy Emeritus” further undermined the Petrine Primacy and opened the way to that “shared papacy” – in a surreal division of munus and ministerium without any theological or canonical basis – which is today evolving into a reinterpretation of the role of the Pontiff in an ecumenical key, as we see in the Study Document “The Bishop of Rome” that was recently published by the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity. A unity that is already a mark of the one true Church of Christ, which is the Catholic Church, and which Vatican II significantly presents as an objective to be achieved by interpreting dogma in a way that does not cause conflicts with the errors of the non-Catholic sects.

    The fact that Ratzinger may have subjectively believed that he abdicated from the Papacy does not affect the nullity of the Renunciation. Despite the aura of orthodoxy that surrounds the Pontificate of Benedict XVI, especially within moderate conservative circles, his redefinition of the Petrine institution and his creation of the “papacy emeritus” constitute the maximum expression of the heretical instances present in Ratzingerian theology, and as such must be the object of a very precise condemnation, together with the other heresies (well highlighted by the studies of the eminent Professor Radaelli) that the German theologian never disavowed.

    https://exsurgedomine.it/240808-marshall-eng/
     
  14. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    It’s a valid question. I knew about McCarrick in the early 2000s. I was in a small private email group with Rod Dreher, Fr. Paul Mankowski and several others whose name you might recognize. Rod was thoroughly disgusted that multiple seminarians came to him about McCarrick back then, but NONE of them would go on the record. The McCarrick scandal could have been ended in the 2000s saving many victims from his abuse if they had come forth publicly.

    The utter frustration over this in part at least eventually lead to Rod moving on from Catholicism to Orthodoxy IMO.

    Years later I spent some time with the ministry of a fairly well known priest who was proud of having been ordained by McCarrick. This was just prior to McCarrick being publicly exposed. I often wondered how even good priests could be so deceived by such a monster.
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It is something of a evil mystery.

    I will in Charity endeavor to think the best of those in Rome. Not having firm evidence otherwise.

    But the whole thing stunk to High Heaven.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. Pure and simple. Martyrs.
     
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  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    LMF, you are right. It’s the here and now that matters most. Yesterday is a memory and tomorrow is not here yet. All we have is right now. I’m growing tired of the “who struck John”. Reams and mountains of material have been written about it. I’m powerless over it.
     
  18. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Agree. It will be sorted out someday, but not, imho, directly by any of us......Hic et nunc is what we have. Pray, hope and don't worry ~
     
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  19. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Back to the thread topic.
     
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  20. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Sorry @LMF, I accidentally deleted this post of yours:
    I believe Pope Benedict knew. I also believe he did what he was able to do, given his authority "stopped at the door"; isn't he the one who said that? What baffles me was how the Canadian Bishops invited that man to speak at one of their assemblies, I believe, in 2006, after he was allegedly sidelined by the Pope.

    https://www.cccb.ca/media-release/2...es-reflections-on-involvement-in-public-life/

    As for JPII, he missed the LC mess, so it's not out of the realm that McC was not on his radar either.....But really, who knows? It hardly matters at this point. It's the here and now that matters most.

    Adding: It seems the link to the address goes nowhere now. It was ten pages long. It started out as follows:

    "Your Eminences, Your Excellencies, My dear brothers in Christ,
    I know that I don’t have to tell you how truly honored and privileged I feel in being invited to address you. I have had the joy of getting to know many of you, at different meetings, either in Rome for gatherings or when we meet together at the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus. It has always been a great moment to stand with you and to sing the splendid melody and stirring words of O Canada. I truly admire your spirit and your dedication. I wish that I could help in resolving all the questions that come to each of us in this challenging and vital sphere of Church, State and politics. We are having difficulty resolving them in my own country and even though experts tend to be more expert the farther they are away from home, all I can do is tell you what we are doing and hope that it brings some light into your own already enlightened discussions."
     
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