I was the one who spoke to Padraig yesterday. (GREAT talking with you Padraig!!xoxox) I posted this last year, but cannot find it now. It was not my prophesy, it is two separate things. One was a vision someone told me he received over 10 years ago. Many ships were out in the middle of the ocean ready for battle. They were just about to fire on each other and then there was this HUGE light in the sky....so much so...they all hung their head in DISAPPOINTMENT...and turned back to go home. This light was like a meteor hitting a rocket or satellite and the WHOLE world will know it happened. Then I received an email regarding Major Ed Danes and his 'remote viewing' of the 'shot across the bow' or 'kill-shot' which tells of this EXACT SAME SENIREO. Its a TURNING POINT WHERE ALL THINGS CHANGE.
Jon, The other night I was reading what the Blessed Mother supposedly said about this on locutions.org. My God my God, why hast thou forsaken me. It was interesting. Basically, because Jesus was taking all the sins of the world onto his back so to speak, God had to abandon Him because He/God can not be a part of sin. Therefore, Jesus in His humanity alone absorbed the sins of the world.
Interesting. I have heard this very idea expressed 25 years ago by some friends who had become evangelical protestants (from basically no faith or practice). This was the common thought about that expression of Christ on the cross among those circles of Pentecostals, etc. My point (in asking Peter B his opinion of "why" this expression has been debated by theologians for so long, which I don't think he answered yet), was so I could appreciate if he or anyone else can acknowledge: First, that He was quoting Psalm 22 (prophetically about Himself) by singing or crying out the first line (as may have been common practice to reference a Psalm), which He was announcing as fulfilled at that moment. And second, is it plausible that while He was consciously making this effort to connect the fulfillment of that prophecy to Himself at that precise moment, that He was also literally experiencing being forsaken or abandoned by God the Father. Subquestion: If that idea above is even plausible, then, is it even possible for Jesus Christ, God the Son, the third part of the Trinity, the Word made flesh, to be forsaken or abandoned by God the Father??? For, in that moment of His sacrifice, His state would not change until bodily death, and yet other words he said on the cross still indicate the mystery of his oneness with the Father. I suppose this may be much of what was debated over the centuries....
I know that there are Saints and blesseds who claimed to receive information about the life of Jesus from the Blessed Mother, and they don't always agree. Here's what Blessed Venerable* Mary of Agreda says in "Mystical City of God," which she claims was given to her by the Blessed Mother. (Thanks for catching my error, Sunburst.) 684. ...My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me?" (Matth. 27, 46.) I shall give the interpretation which has been manifested to me... Christ our Savior intimated quite a different dereliction by these words of complaint, one which originated from his immense love for men; namely, from his love of the foreknown as lost and the reprobate, which during his last hour caused in Him the same anguish as it did during his prayer in the garden..."
cont. He grieved that his copious and superabundant Redemption, offered for the whole human race, should not be efficacious in the reprobate and that He should find Him self deprived of them in the eternal happiness, for which He had created and redeemed them. As this was to happen in consequence of the decree of his Father s eternal will, He lovingly and sorrowfully complained of it in the words: "My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" that is, in so far as God deprived Him of the salvation of the reprobate..."
And that corroborates with this taken from the the Hours of the Passion by Luisa Piccaretta The fourth word: « My God, my God, why have you abandoned me? » Suffering Jesus, while pressed to your heart and abandoned in you, as I number your pains I see that a convulsive tremor comes over your most holy humanity. Your members are struggling as if they were going to separate from each other. In the midst of the contortions for the atrocious spasms, you cry out: “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” At this cry, everyone trembles, the darkness becomes thicker, and your petrified mother turns pale and faints. My life, my all, my Jesus: What do I see? Oh, you are close to death. The pains themselves, so faithful to you, are about to leave you. Meanwhile, after so much suffering, you see with immense sorrow that not all souls are incorporated into you. On the contrary, you perceive that many will be lost, and you feel the painful separation of those that separate themselves from your members. Having to satisfy the divine justice for them as well, you feel the death of each one and the pains they will suffer in hell. So, you cry out to all hearts: “Do not abandon me! If you want more pains, I am ready, but do not separate from my humanity. This is the pain of pains. This is the death of deaths. All the rest would be nothing for me, if I did not suffer your separation from me. Please, have pity on my blood, on my wounds, on my death! This cry will continually ring in your hearts: Please do not abandon me!”
I'm not sure exactly what you mean,..but the above quotes are taken from the Hours of the Passion as given to Luisa Piccaretta and I posted it because it corroborates with what Kathy posted by venerable Mary of Agreda. Are you familiar with the Hours of the Passion?
There are some things we just don't know, and great, inspired minds have pondered them for centuries. Many Doctors of the Church give opinions on such things, which are often conflicting. Propagate is a strong word. I think it's fine to share locutions of holy men and women, as long as they are properly sited as to source. We are free to believe them or not. (Since I'm not a theologian, I welcome correction or a better explanation.)
Peter, I believe the first generation Christians, who were mostly Jews, felt the same way. Think of how many times this passage is quoted in the New Testament; five times, I believe. Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
I regard, 'Remote viewing', as a modern form of, 'Scrying', which is plainly witchcraft in the same way as staring into crystals or mirrors and this is of course forbidden by the Church. No one should have have anything to do with it. I know that the Soviets did a lot of experimentation with it for submarine communication during the Cold War. But in my book it's still witchcraft.
Father Malachi Martin didn't think so. I would never do it however. Its something that is 'learned' not something that is a gift. Therefore, I don't touch it. Things like astral projection is something that just happens sometimes during sleep and you don't have control over it. There are those who know how to control it, and do it spontaneously, which is not something I would do. Lots of things are tempting. Remote viewing is doable and true. It has boundaries and it has to be done with a group even if said group is scattered all over the world to be tested. Lots of ways to be wrong... I'll have to look up the definition of scrying. Never heard of it. The crystals and mirrors I have heard of and boy oh boy---you DON'T want to do that! Ask any high school kid who has ever done that. My nephew did it at a party and stared into a mirror and the blessed virgin appeared weeping tears of blood. Scared him so bad he didn't look into a mirror for years!
NEW LOCUTIONS: The Heavenly Mysteries http://www.locutions.org/category/the-heavenly-mysteries/ http://www.locutions.org/category/the-heavenly-mysteries/page/2/ Explaining the power of the Holy Spirit in the Baptized http://www.locutions.org/category/explaining-the-power-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-baptized/ http://www.locutions.org/category/explaining-the-power-of-the-holy-spirit-in-the-baptized/page/2/ SPECIAL LOCUTION: The Fires of Syria http://www.locutions.org/category/special-locution-the-fires-of-syria/
AUGUST 27 Mary I hold Israel at the center of my heart. I was born in Israel and the great events of the world’s redemption took place there. The ring of protection around Israel is being stripped away and replaced by enemies. Israel’s most important protection is Jordan. I want you to pray for the stability of Jordan. The longer that Jordan remains stable, the safer is Israel and the more the demonic timetable is pushed back. If Jordan remains stable, Israel will be able to plan its own defense because everything will not suddenly collapse, leaving no time for self-defense. Jordan’s border with Israel is very important. If Jordan collapses and falls under terrorist control, then Israel’s border can easily be pierced. Attacks from Lebanon and the Gaza Strip will never have the power which an attack from Jordanian territory would have. Jordan is key to Israel’s survival. ROME REPORTS published on August 29 a visit of King Abdallah of Jordan and Queen Rania to Pope Francis:
I am having problems with these "supposed" locutions. Not one mention of the extermination of Christians in the middle east and I can't (maybe someone can) reconcile the fact that Israel supports the "terrorists" who are going to "inflict major damage" on them. The pope and King of Jordan are calling for peace while Israel/US/Al Queda wants to "eliminate" any potential threat. Which one is it? No to foreign military intervention in Syria Patriarchate Aug 302013 Prot. 412/2013D Appeal of H.B. Gregorios III Patriarch of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church President of the Assembly of the Catholic Hierarchy in Syria Damascus 30 August 2013 We renew our rejection of any foreign military intervention in the Syrian crisis. We should like to summarise our remarks over the last few days, made in various interviews on the matter. The tragic situation that Syria has been experiencing for the last two and a half years is the strongest evidence of the primary importance of seeking the earliest possible peaceful, diplomatic resolution of the crisis. However, dealing with defining the responsibility of this or that side for tragedies, massacres and the use of chemical weapons, though legitimate, is secondary. King Solomon said there was “a time of war and a time of peace.” (Ecclesiastes 3: 8) Now is the time to make peace. That is why, as President of the Assembly of the Catholic Hierarchy in Syria, and as Patriarch of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, I am adding my voice to all the statements made by most of my brother Eastern Patriarchs, several Episcopal Conferences, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and especially His Holiness Pope Francis and his representative at the United Nations in Geneva, when I state the categorical rejection by Syria’s Catholic Churches, including the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, in Arab countries and those of the expansion, of any foreign intervention in Syria and any attack or intervention of any sort whatsoever. Furthermore, we join the many countries, comprising over half the world’s population, who reject any outside military intervention in Syria. Our conviction is still sure: no victory through weapons and violence. Violence leads to violence and weapons to other weapons. The parties to the conflict will continue to fight to the bitter end, as they all have an abundance of weapons. We wonder how we in Syria have managed to cross the “red line” and fallen into the danger of resorting to chemical weapons. The answer is that for the last two and a half years, Eastern and Western countries have not stopped sending weapons, money, military experts, secret service agents and Salafist fundamentalist armed gangs of thugs and criminals, who have fallen on Syria like a destructive new flood, far more dangerous even than destructive chemical weapons, whose use on our Syrian soil we reject on any pretext whatever. Those above mentioned factors have caused the death of 100,000 victims, the forced displacement of eight million Syrians, the traumatisation of two million children, the destruction of the academic future of millions of school-children and students and the destruction of thousands of villages, not to mention the wrecking of both infrastructure and institutions, widespread chaos, the abduction of thousands of people (men, women and children), rape, extortion of ransom, robberies, assaults on civilians, hatred, enmity, revenge, exacerbation of ethnic and religious conflicts, and that among members of the same country, or sometimes of the same family. Nevertheless, we hope for a unanimous, global campaign to be orchestrated to prepare seriously and carefully for the Geneva 2 meeting. Contrary to the calls to arms, attacks and military interventions, we enjoy listening to appeals from around the world aimed at creating an atmosphere of reconciliation, dialogue, humanitarian solidarity, hope, forgiveness and finally peace. These are all contributory factors to creating an atmosphere conducive for holding Geneva 2. Meanwhile, we are launching a campaign of prayer in our churches, homes, youth movements and confraternities. So we join in the calls for prayer that have been launched around the world for peace in Syria, as that is the real movement for solidarity with Syria. We entrust ourselves, with all our faithful and fellow-citizens, to the protection of the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary, Our Lady of Damascus, Queen of Peace and Mother of Jesus, the Prince of Peace, asking them to allow peace to reign again, in our beloved Syria, Palestine, the Middle East and around the world. + Gregorios III Patriarch of Antioch and All the East Of Alexandria and of Jerusalem The Wisdom of the Attitude of His Holiness the Pope and the Vatican to the Syrian Crisis Preliminary Report on Emergency Aid Shopping Cart Your shopping cart is empty Visit the shop Questions? © 1995-2012 Melkite Eparchy of Newton · All Rights Reserved
