Fr. Michele Rodrigue?

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  1. Byron

    Byron Powers

    The Triumph, The Second Coming and the Eucharistic Reign is explained, so well, in Fr Gobbi’s book. “To the priests, Our Lady’s beloved Sons.”
     
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  2. Pax Prima

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    I will check it out fully eventually, and that book is part of the reason why I think the idea of the era of peace being followed by an unleashing of satan is not accurate. I don't buy into the 1000 year era of peace millenarianism. But I want a stronger knowledge of the bible before I start reading this prophecy.
     
  3. Carmelite

    Carmelite Archangels

    Can you put out the order of how you think things will unfold for interest sake?
     
  4. Pax Prima

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    I can only tell you what I know now. As I listened to Mar Emmanuel it becomes clear that Revelation has been unfolding since Jesus was born. Say what you want about him, his exegesis on Revelation is the best I have seen thus far. The seals have been breaking since the death and resurrection of Jesus. My theory is that we are in the time where satan is loosed for a little while, based on the 100 years satan was given by God to destroy the church. But also because we are witnessing so many things outside of the book of Revelation, and from the new testament and from visionaries, which are happening.

    The church teaches that the new heaven and earth will not be followed by an unleashing of satan. While it is up for debate, I agree with the church position, because it is ridiculous IMO for God to build a new heaven and earth only to allow satan out for a little while. As well, it does not follow the order of revelation given to St. John.

    Once St. John eats the scroll, for me it marks a new period in Revelation once all the previous events have happened. The little time in revelation 12 and revelation 20, could be the same time. But I am not knowledgeable enough to say so. But looking at current prophecy unfolding, and current messages of visionaries it seems like this.

    I believe satan was possibly locked up when Jesus was victorious, and was recently released over the last 100 years. I don't know for certain, but it is something like this. We saw paganism diminish after Christ came, only to make a resurgence now. I also think it is possible the little time where satan is released, begins in revelation 12. So we would be in the times of Revelation 12 and what follows.

    So the 1000 years where those who came to life and reigned with Christ in revelation 20:4-6 already happened. Especially considering we are all already priests and priestesses in Christ.

    1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

    Revelation 12:10-11 also seems to refer somewhat or partially to revelation 20:4-6, regarding those who did not take the mark of the beast.
     
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  5. Pax Prima

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    Here is an example of what I mean by the seals being already broken.
    The first seal is a rider on a white horse. This is Jesus, who conquered, through his death and resurrection.
    The second seal is a rider on a red horse. This is satan, killing Christians.
    The third seal, is a rider on a black horse. These are attacks on the sacraments. The oil and wine refer the to the parable of the good Samaritan. The days wages refer to the parable of the workers in the vineyard. We have seen this already too.
    The fourth seal, is a rider on a pale green horse. This is islam, pale green being an imitation of the true green, which is Jesus the true life. They have conquered a quarter of the earth. Death and Hades follows close behind because it is not a true path to God. Islamic nations also have green flags, some with swords or guns on them which are symbols of death. We have seen this come to pass.

    This is as far as I have gotten in the discourses regarding the seals. Of course, there are more detailed and in depth descriptions of the seals in the exegesis by Mar Emmanuel. But it becomes clear to me that many of these seals have already been broken.
     
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  6. Byron

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  7. Booklady

    Booklady Powers



    This was live 3 hours ago. Very interesting.
     
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  8. Byron

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  9. Byron

    Byron Powers

    The Fulton Sheen Institute has less problems in watching.
     
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  10. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Pax - Satan was around when Islam became a religion, and was quite around during the Protestant Reformation. He’s been out for centuries.
     
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  11. Byron

    Byron Powers

    We are at the end of an era when Our Lady will stomp the head of the snake. I believe that is what the 100 years meant. Her triumph in this era is coming shortly.
     
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  12. Pax Prima

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    This is a great point, I don't have a good answer for it. I will have to pray on it. But there are a few things I am aware of.

    As the Creed infallibly teaches, the Second Coming is associated with the end of the world and the Last Judgment. Therefore, it is NOT associated with any earlier time - such as to establish a "Millennium." The Catholic Church specifically condemns "millenarianism," according to which Jesus will establish a throne in this world and reign here for a thousand years [CCC 676]. She teaches instead that Jesus already reigns in eternity (1 Cor. 15:24-27, Rev. 4 & 5) and that in this world His reign, established as a seed, is found already in the Church [CCC 668-669]. This is the 1000 years, which is the Hebrew way of indicating an indefinite long time - in this case, the time between the first and second comings, the era of the Church, in other words the last days in the broadest sense.The Book of Revelation situates this era between the persecutions of the Roman antichrists of the first century and the final unleashing of evil at the end.
    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/answers/endtimes-millenium-rapture-24748

    So this 1000 years reign mentioned in revelation 20:4, which parallels revelation 20:2, which is a very long time, started at the end of Christ's first coming. Which indicates that this is when satan was bound.

    Mark 3:27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
    When Jesus came down he entered into satan's house. When he died on the cross, he bound up satan. Which makes Jesus the Angel who came down from heaven in revelation 20:1. He also holds the key to the bottomless pit, this key is referenced in Revelation 1:18. But he did not get the key until he died on the cross.
    I agree with you, but the era according to many seers is marked by the new heaven and new earth, which starts in Revelation 21. This binding and loosening wont happen after the creation of a new heaven and earth. The catholic church rejects millenarianism, because it doesn't make sense. The theory that the "era of peace", which starts with "a new heaven and a new earth", and is concluded by the loosening of satan is a form of millenarianism.

    The notion that Jesus will come, reign, and then depart, so that the devil can trick the world again, is incompatible with the incomprehensible dignity of the Lord and His love for His people. Jesus' Coming will be definitive, triumphant and ever-lasting, NOT temporal and limited.
    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/answers/endtimes-millenium-rapture-24748
     
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  13. Pax Prima

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    By the above you can see that it is absolutely possible that the 100 years that satan was given, was in fact his loosening. As well, we are now seeing the possibility of war enveloping Israel. Which is mentioned in Revelation 20:7-10, that happens after satan is loosed, but before the creation of a new heaven and earth. This being the battle of Gog and Magog, meaning the 4 corners of the earth, is also mentioned in Ezekiel 38 & 39.

    Currently, everyone is anticipating in the coming weeks that there will be war between hezbollah and israel.
     
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  14. josephite

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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I listened to the Message Fr Michel Rodriguez gave supposedly got from the Blessed Virgin and over which there has been a very great deal of fuss. I was very surprised to hear how short it was. Really there isn't anything new in any of this. I believe more than ever that it is all false and will give my reasons inch by inch when I get home. I find it hard to wade through false stuff lol ke this. It's like wading through a dense bog.

    But one thing sprung to mind. Our Lady spoke at Fatima that' The good will die along with the bad'. This is not what Fr Michele says. He is saying if you get to these heavenly bolt holes things will be fine. This contradicts Fatima. God will always protect the good but this does not mean in a human sense we shall not suffer death or physical harm.

    There is no heavenly get out jail free card for any of us.

    There just isn't.
     
  16. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    Consider this section from Chapter 12 of the Apocalypse as related to what you said:

    13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child: 14 And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.​

    Notice three things:

    1. Satan is unleashed.
    2. The Woman is nourished for a time [3.5 years]...from the face of the serpent.
    3. The dragon was angry with the woman and went to make war on the rest of her seed.

    So, AFTER Satan is unleashed, one PART OF the seed of the woman [the Roman Catholic Church] are protected from Satan [period of peace], while, AT THE SAME TIME, another PART OF the seed of the woman [the Roman Catholic Church] is at WAR with Satan.

    In other words, this final short (3.5 year) period of peace before the end of the age is a peace experienced in the souls of certain Catholics who are protected by the Virgin. The other remaining Catholics are experiencing a war with Satan/Antichrist during that time.

    The main event is just about to begin. Satan is about to be unleashed.
     
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  17. padraig

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    Another source of great concern was the way this supposed heavenly message was announced. This very dramatic breathless to all the World drama. The shock, the awe the excitement, the wait untill you see what we have to say and just look at the amazing way we are going to say it!

    None of this is off heaven.

    I believe they have gone deep, deep down the rabbit hole of their own collective delusions. They are feeding of each other in a kind of Alice in Wonderland world of their own creation.

    A single delusion can be powerful but a collective delusion much more so. This is like a social whirlpool that is dragging many thousands in it's wake. Mass delusion.

    Let me ask one simple question about all this wild nonsense. Where are the good fruits in all this?

    Show me the good fruits and I will believe. Have there been miracles? Have there been healings? Have there been conversions?

    In terms of Father Michele himself, what evidence have you seen of his personal sanctity?

    Show me, that I too may believe.
     
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  18. Pax Prima

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    I watched the video, like you said there wasn't anything in it that was new, or that held great substance IMO. The prophecy seems like it was rather vague and could have come from anyone. It appears that there is a lot of good will from the different channels, but while respectful they didn't seem generally invested. Mark McLean actually challenged Fr. Rodrigue, by asking him why Our Lady didn't reveal these messages to the visionaries of Medjugore. Fr. Rodrigue's response was along the lines that Our Lady does as she wills. Which for me was evasive. Over all for me, the event fell flat.

    One of the things I find, is that because most of the officials of the church aren't giving attention to prophecy, the laity have stepped in to do so. Fr. Rodrigue is being positioned as a prophet of the end times, and as a kind of expert who can interpret the signs of the times and messages of other visionaries. Because most people don't have the time to explore and investigate, many might go along with it. But I don't see it going far.
     
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  19. padraig

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    In terms of Fath
    Yes any one of us with a knowledge of Catholic Prophecy could have made messages like this up and could indeed have made even better more credible ones.

    But show me the fruits that I may believe.

    Another source of great concern is the absence of scripture i n all this. It's like Scripture had never been written. True prophecy is deeply, deeply embedded in scripture. It's like an embroidery of scripture.
     
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  20. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    This is the boiled down to the nitty gritty truth of the matter. For me, understanding that and truly believing it to be true trumps any heavenly message. It's everything needed in a very few words. Truth in a nutshell. Get your own house in order, so that you may endure what is to come. Especially that final end that we will all meet as individuals. Holy detachment is so key to that, imho. I think Our Lady has been trying in her own way to show how important that detachment is for our souls. Detached from the created and profoundly attached to the Uncreated.....that's where true peace lies.....

    In addition: I don't doubt there are refuges out there. I don't put any stock at all that I will end up in one. That's not my call. Have I consecrated my old run down house to Our Lady? Sure have. But I fully realize that means nothing in terms of myself or saving my own hide, so to speak. It's Hers to do with as She sees fit. This is what I mean by an example of detachment.
     
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